Posted on 08/04/2012 9:27:59 AM PDT by GregNH
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By Joseph Tanfani
August 4, 2012, 6:00 a.m. WASHINGTON -- Still convinced President Obama wasn’t born in the United States?
A brand-new political committee will be happy to accept your donations to keep the theory alive.
The Conservative Majority Fund, set up a month ago by a political consultant, is sponsoring television ads that recycle some discredited conspiracy theories regarding Obama’s identity -- including suggestions that he’s using a phony Social Security number and a fake birth certificate.
“We know less about this man than any president in American history,” the ad says. “No one, I mean no one, has seen an actual physical copy of Barack Obama’s birth certificate.” It calls for a petition drive -- “we need 10,000 signatures from every congressional district” -- to boot Obama from the ballot.
The group’s website, which “demands Congress investigate Barack Obama’s forged birth certificate,” suggests donations from $25 to $2,500. This week, the group reported spending more than $500,000 to oppose “Barak [sic] Hussein Obama,” according to the organization’s Federal Election Commission filings, with most of the money going to a nationwide phone-call campaign.
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I didn’t mean all his 08 supporters would continue to vote Obama.
What I mean that anybody who still supports Baraq after 4 disastrous years will be locked in.
From what I read, the number of undecideds in this election is extremely low which makes sense.
Yeah Obama might not be on the ballot in some states.
And Salma Hayek might dump her billionaire husband and call me for a date.
And at this point, barring a judicial or administrative procedure in which Obama’s Hawaii birth record (and at this point the microfilms and computer transaction logs as well, since Hawaii has altered official records on this matter already) is presented as evidence, Obama’s placement on any ballot in the country will involve known felonies (perjury and fraud) by the DNC and its lawyer, as well as misprision of those felonies by each state SOS and the HDOH.
Already the Mississipi Democratic Executive Committee requested a “verification” specifically designed to avoid the issue of whether Obama’s true birth facts can be verified. To me, that strongly suggests that MDEC knew that Onaka CAN’T verify any actual birth facts - since they requested a verification without ever submitting the actual APPLICATION for a verification, in order to expressly avoid asking for specific birth facts to be verified as legally true. And they’ve submitted the irrelevant “verification” they received to a judge.
So ALREADY they are trying to lay a foundation showing that they THOUGHT Obama was eligible, even though the way they handled their request strongly suggests they knew darn good and well not to do a request like Ken Bennett did, because Onaka would refuse to verify any true birth facts to them, just like he did to Bennett. And they know the only legal reason for Onaka to refuse to verify the birth facts is if the submitted facts are not legally true.
IOW, they are going to do everything in their power to cover their legal behinds by saying they THOUGHT Obama’s HI BC is legally valid, even though their own actions show they heard Onaka loud and clear when he indirectly confirmed to Ken Bennett that Obama’s HI birth record is legally non-valid. We need to get the truth into their faces, on the record, with proof for all to see.... that they were informed and knew otherwise.
The TEApeople could have a little to do with that, by demanding their SOS verify his eligibility, especially considering the fact that his BCs are forgeries.
They could also wreak havoc on facebook/twitter etc, providing a little leverage, just in case their SOS brushes them off.
Gee, Senator Reid, MSM, and all, what more proof do you need?
Just WOW!...I hadn't heard that yet.
That line of defense is so....skinny.
Thanks Miss Butter.
Actually, they have nothing to do with it. If the press covered it, they would probably only make it worse (better)
I head Susan Daniels the other day, might have been on the Peter Boyles show? Anyway, she said the government had five days to respond to her lawsuit.
(a) “the existence of a certificate” and
(b) any other information that the applicant seeks to have verified “relating to the vital event that pertains to the certificate.” Haw. Rev. Stat. § 338-14.3 (a).
Such verification “shall be considered for all purposes certification that [a] the vital event did occur and [b] that the facts of the event are as stated by the applicant.”
Pursuant to Sections 338-14.3 and 338-18 (g)(4), MDEC Counsel recently submitted a writtenrequest to the Hawaii Department of Health, seeking verification of the following:
“1. The original Certificate of Live Birth for Barack Hussein Obama, II, is on file with theHawaii State Department of Health.
2. The information contained in the “Certificate of Live Birth” published at http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate, a copy of which is attached to this request, matches the information contained in the original Certificate of Live [B]irth for Barack Hussein Obama, II on file with the Hawaii State Department of Health.”
http://www.scribd.com/doc/96289285/Mississippi-Democratic-Party-Motion-v-Taitz
At this point, the birthers won't accept any document that comes out of Hawaii.
If I give you a $10 bill whose information matches the information on Monopoly money, what have you got?
Au contraire, we have asked for the microfilm rolls from multiple years including the one that Obama’s is supposed to be in, the paper records for Obama, and the computer transaction logs which will show any tampering with the electronic record.
That’s for the birth certificate. The same things would be required for the other records that have shown signs of tampering (draft registration, SSN, and passport records).
Which is precisely the kind of audit the inspector general for the Dept of Health and Human Services reported to Congress as necessary when even something like a vague seal on a birth certificate shows up - not to mention actual tampering with the records by agency staff, as we’ve seen with EVERY document mentioned above.
See http://oig.hhs.gov/oei/reports/oei-07-99-00570.pdf That report was released in September of 2000 - even before 9-11 caused us to look with new eyes at just how vulnerable identity fraud makes this country’s national security.
IOW, this is very, very basic stuff that’s been the accepted standard for a very long time. Kind of like the Rules of Evidence have been in place for a very long time - the rules that Judge Malihi walked all over in order to issue a sharia ruling instead (judge’s knowledge without need for any steenkin’ evidence)...
We’ve been over this all before. I’m not going to spell it all out to you yet again, so this is all I’m going to say here. Anything more is a waste of my time.
The information on a $10 bill doesn’t match the information on monopoly money.
On the other hand, the Hawaii DOH has verified that the information in the birth certificate posted by the Whitehouse does match the information contained in the original birth certificate in Hawaii.
But Hawaii has not said that the certificate is valid or authentic. In fact they went out of their way to avoid having to verify the validity of the document, as would be called for in a standard request for verification using their own form.
There could be a big stamp on the original record on file that says “invalid for legal purposes.” We don’t know and HI is going out of their way to keep that option open.
Which means nothing if the HI record is legally non-valid.
Which is the only legally permissible reason for Onaka to refuse to verify Obama’s birth date, gender, city and island of birth, mother’s name, and father’s name to AZ SOS Ken Bennett.
A legally non-valid record is has as much value as Monopoly money, and so does anything that copycats what’s on it.
End of story.
Of course the birthers have been asking for evidence. What I said was that they'll reject any evidence they're given if it doesn't support the conspiracy theory.
What is your explanation of the fact that Obama's birth certificate (pdf file) is a forgery? So far no Obot could provide instructions on how to scan a document and end up with a file that has a layer that contains only a date and another layer that contains only a signature. Please give it a try.
Onaka verified all of that information in the MDEC document.
Obama is a pathological liar.... a mental dysfunction’’’’
The boy is a sick puppy...
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