Posted on 08/06/2012 10:38:28 AM PDT by kingattax
Shame if anything happened to it.
I have two friends with 335s, and I am jealous of both of them. And they are jealous of each other, which makes it more funny.
Gibson Guitar Corp. Strikes Deal with Justice Dept. to Avoid Prosecution
My daughter has a Hummingbird, which we purchased for her, and she just won a really nice 1961 SG reissue. Both gorgeous American guitars. I can’t wait until November to get the Obama crooks out of the way.
I have more FUN with my cheap Silvertones than I ever had with an expensive guitar! After I set them up they play and sound great even the laminated cheapie I bought for $6!
In fact the laminated has a nice mellow, smooth tone using 11-52 IIRC Pearse or Martin strings.
It’s funny when some of my old band gets togethet and we compare. They are jealous of how good mine sound compared to their $500+++
guitars!
It’s all in the setup and knowing what you are playing.
I am jealous of the accomplished luthiers!
Really if you think about it a lot of the “classic” acoustic sound was done on fairly inexpensive guitars.
BTW my first electric was a DanoElectric made of Masonite with the amp in the case! The action was horrendous! Wish I had one now. Real ones go for big bucks! They sound cool!
Makes you wonder if there were strings attached...
Not just anybody can make bad puns about guitars. I requires some pluck.
The Government has unlimited resources, the courts on their side , and lawyers on the payroll who just sit around all day slapping their chicken.
I wish Gibson could have taken them on too, but sometimes you just can’t win and you pay up.
The government knew that when they went in and stole their wood and ripped them off.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see it show up in Steny Hoyers, or John Roberts den.
Free men go where they are most free.
That used to be here.
Gibson Guitars, the only thing this will get you is to get effed harder the next time.
Even if we're up to our neck in guitar puns, I don't think we should fret about it.
good idea !
I don’t think it’s anything you should fret about
Gibson's hands have never been clean in this.
With respect to the first raid, in which Madagascar ebony was seized, Gibson clearly did something it knew was illegal. Gibson representative Gene Nix had been on the ground in Madagascar and specifically had visited the 'factory' of Roger Thunam. Thunam had recently been released from prison for illegal lumber trafficking.
Nix emailed the executives at Gibson that Thunam's lumber was under seizure by the Malagasy government. He also emailed that there was no 'legitimate' source for Madagascar ebony.
However, Gibson bought Thunam's ebony through the German firm of Theodor Nagel, Gmbh.
If you read through all of the legal documents, you'll find that a source in Madagascar notified the U.S. about the illegal sale from Thunam to Nagel. You'll also discover that several other individuals who were on the lumber-finding trip with Nix gave statements that it was illegal for Thunam to export his ebony.
As Liberty Valance will attest, I've been crying in the wilderness since the August 2011 raid that Gibson was clearly guilty of violating the law in the previous Madagascar ebony raid.
The circumstances of the East Indian ebony and rosewood seizures are more complicated - involving changing Hamonized Schedule codes after the wood was shipped, misidentifying the contents of containers, failing to list the true ultimate consignee (Gibson was not listed on the import paperwork), and more. The parties involved with Gibson on that import were . . . Theodor Nagel Gmbh (again) and Luthiers Mercantile, a company related to Nagel.
I'll make a note of that.
No.
There were two raids on Gibson.
The first raids were in November 2009 and involved Madagascar ebony. The second raids, involving East Indian rosewood and ebony, were in August 2011.
There were separate civil forfeiture actions for each set of raids.
Only the August 2011 raids got a lot of media attention. Gibson didn't roll out its public relations machine with respect to the first raids because the facts were much too unfavorable for Gibson, including internal Gibson emails acknowledging that it couldn't legally buy the Madagascar ebony before Gibson followed through on the purchase.
bttt
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