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Romney: The Boy Scouts should admit homosexuals
Life Side News ^ | 8/7/2012 | Ben Johnson

Posted on 08/08/2012 5:27:53 AM PDT by IbJensen

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To: SumProVita

Sorry, I can’t vote for either Moloch or Mammon (each of whom BTW is only too willing to liberally sprinkle incense at the altar of the other).


51 posted on 08/08/2012 7:02:18 AM PDT by maryz
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To: RonF; AppauledAtAppeasementConservat; Looking for Diogenes; wisconsinconservative; AFPhys; ...

Scout Ping


52 posted on 08/08/2012 7:06:33 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: richardtavor

Homosexual loving? Is this heartfelt enough for you?

“For some voters it might be enough for me to simply match my opponent’s record in this area. But I believe we can and must do better. If we are to achieve the goals we share, we must make equality for gays and lesbians a mainstream concern. My opponent cannot do this. I can and will.”
(snip)
“One issue I want to clarify concerns President Clinton’s “don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t pursue” military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share.”


53 posted on 08/08/2012 7:07:28 AM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors,,, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: maryz

Hmmmm....seems like more thinking that aids Obama’s reelection.


54 posted on 08/08/2012 7:09:26 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. - Modified Descartes)
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To: rockinqsranch

Well, I see the “dirty-tricks brigade” from TeamObama is out in force this morning.

Once again, they are throwing mud at the presumptive non-Obama candidate to discourage one-issue conservatives from voting against Obama.

Once again, they are encouraging moralistic preening within the ranks of Conservatives. From TeamObama’s perspective, a vote NOT cast for Romney is almost as good as a vote cast FOR Obama.

IMHO, most Conservatives are too intelligent to think that becoming a “useful idiot” for the Democrats is somehow “honorable”.

IMHO, there is no honor whatsoever in giving Obama four more years in an office which he shown he will use to destroy America.


55 posted on 08/08/2012 7:13:47 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: IbJensen
He flat out tried to steal the Iowa Caucuses. I don't trust Mitt at all.

The only thing he really wants and believes in is that he should be POTUS. I can not believe that the GOP is going with a candidate that is the same as Obama on all major issues.

56 posted on 08/08/2012 7:16:38 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Venturer

I don’t know how.

I keep using this analogy: There came a time in 19030’s Germany that the intelligent (and courageous) Jews got on a boat to England.

Ecclesiastes discusses this in those words of the Byrds song Turn Turn Turn.

And as Kenny Rogers said:

Know when to walk away and know when to run.

For me. It was time to prepare to walk away in late October of 2008. That is when I purchased my small farm in central KY. In August of 2011 I walked away from Seattle to that new home.

The day to run may come. The day to fight may come. But a wise man chooses his battles.

I said in 2000 AND in 2004 that the election of Bush simply put off the inevitable slide into dictatorship off by four years. The start of the collapse of the economy in 2008 sealed our fate. Since then it has not been a matter of “if” but only “when” this whole house of cards will collapse into WWIII. We are at the cusp.

I heard that markets were up today because it looks like there will be financial help supplied by the government (qe3) so they were “upbeat”. They were not “upbeat”. Rather, they see any such help as inflationary, which means stocks and commodities will increase in value RELATIVE to the increasingly worthless dollars. Eventually our economic death spiral will lead to hyperinflation just before the war.

With or without Obamacare we are screwed. With Romney or Obama we are screwed. It just changes the position.

But ultimately, I take heed to the words of a pastor I heard a couple decades ago: Where would he early church have been if they had put their faith in Rome?

My strength is in the Lord and this life is a mist. I will remain in him, living my life, eating and drinking and enjoying the fruits of my labor and sharing it and, most importantly, the good news of Christ with anyone who will listen. And then I die.

We are coming to a time when people will envy the dead.

BTW, IMO.


57 posted on 08/08/2012 7:18:38 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: IbJensen

Why can’t Boy Scouts just continue their old policy of don’t ask, don’t tell. But the problem is that the gay community wants gay children to publicly proclaim that they are gay. I’ll bet there are a lot of kids that feel certain ways but don’t want to reveal the feelings publicly. So the kids are put on the spot.

What about the Boy Scout leaders? Should gay leaders be required to publicly state that they are gay? One thing’s for sure. My child isn’t going into a Scout troop that has gay leadership.


58 posted on 08/08/2012 7:21:43 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: The Working Man
I think that he and his handlers figure that the Conservatives, Rinos, And fence sitters have no where else to go if they are voting against Obama.

Short term, they are right. Long term, the GOP will soon no longer be able to win elections. They are already in deep trouble. You can only abuse you base for so long till they split. The abortion issue was set up to keep the two parties in business, and has worked for 40 years. It won't once Mitt moves the party to the pro death camp.

59 posted on 08/08/2012 7:25:27 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: uncbob

Don’t count on most of talk radio, whether Hannity the coward, Rush who ignores most of it or others on talk radio,.

When it comes to conservative social issues like marriage, adoption, fighting the queer homostapo, abortion, gun rights then many in talk radio disappear, they like to talk debt, health care, debt, health care or the campaign of lying ADs by the left.

I’m so pissed off with our side who act cowardly or like Hannity said once on his show with his liberal pals there”I don’t care who marries” another time he hung up n a vet because he wanted to mention dn’t ask and refused many of us vets when we called his show and told the screener we want to say allowing homo’s to serve will only hurt the military.

Seems may on our side love their money, their power, their elitist cocktail parties and to hell with us, not just conservatives but


60 posted on 08/08/2012 7:32:31 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: servantboy777

agreed, any man who tocuhes a boy is a homosexual , but funny how the media and others ignore this point especially when they said crisis in the church.

They should ahve had the healone, homosexuals , the church and molestation


61 posted on 08/08/2012 7:34:11 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: pfony1
Well, I see the “dirty-tricks brigade” from TeamObama is out in force this morning.

YOu are not paying attention, pfony.

These are Romney's own words and Romney's own spokesperson. This happened just a few days ago. It has absolutely nothing to do with any dirty trick by anyone.

It is a self-inflicted wound. It is being picked up by pro-family, conservative organizations who are puzzled as can be by Romney's doing this. At lifesite and at renewamerica, these are groups that want Romney to do well. What he's done with this is discourage them.

I'm sure you see that.

ABOs need to be fair with social conservatives who are religious social conservatives. There are some things their faith simply won't allow them to support.

I'll bet even you wish that Romney hadn't come out with this response.

62 posted on 08/08/2012 7:38:39 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode Not Evil: The lesser of 2 evils is still evil!)
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To: cuban leaf

“We are coming to a time when people will envy the dead.”

Do you remember what book of the bible that comes from?

Thanks. Just asking.

Regards


63 posted on 08/08/2012 7:44:03 AM PDT by ripley
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To: marstegreg

The problem for me here is that he has come out espousing a public position that is in agreement with the queer agenda.

He has personally and quite publically aligned himself on the opposite side of conservatives on this issue and could now be viewed as an “ally” in the fight to destroy the BSA with the admission of queers.


64 posted on 08/08/2012 7:46:05 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry
But conservatives on the Hill can mitigate the damage either of these two clowns are capable of.

They can but it's hard. Even harder when the President is of their party. Republicans scarcely have the guts to oppose Democrats, much less one of their own.

65 posted on 08/08/2012 7:58:15 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: ripley

As I typed it, it reminded me of a verse in Revelation, but I was not trying to quote anything.


66 posted on 08/08/2012 8:02:08 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: marstegreg
If we don't have the moral authority and obligation to protect children from homosexuals, then what is life about?

You can't sit on the fence with this one.

Romney's position is evil. No one should vote for such a man.

67 posted on 08/08/2012 8:12:27 AM PDT by donna ("...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way..." -Mitt Romney, 2007)
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To: Springfield Reformer
...but our only real hope is a miracle in Tampa, and I don’t know what it would take to persuade God we deserve one last chance.
Ridiculously long lines at Chick-fil-A? Doh! that already happened. :) My next response would be prayer, fasting, reparation..

http://rosaryforpeace.com
68 posted on 08/08/2012 8:35:57 AM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: xzins

Thanks for the ping!


69 posted on 08/08/2012 8:49:09 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: IbJensen
 
Compare:
 
 
An actual, real, entrpeneurial Boy Scout LEADER
 

Here's to him and those like him - Damn, Few, Left.

 
 
Vs. - Myth the magic RINO:
 

"The [my] only connection [to the Republican Party]is I'm registered as a Republican"
--Mitt RRRRRomney
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNbXdOCQQMs
 
 
FUMR
70 posted on 08/08/2012 8:55:20 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: cymbeline

Homosexuals should be kept as far away from young boys as is humanly possible.


71 posted on 08/08/2012 9:02:13 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: IbJensen

Mitt and GOPe can KMA. Not getting my vote, not getting a dime from me. Will support down ballot conservatives, but the top of the ticket will be blank, unless there is a third party name I recognize.


72 posted on 08/08/2012 9:25:22 AM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts once lead the American Revolution. Under Mitt Romney, it lead the demise.)
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To: IbJensen
Why am I supposed to abandon my principles and vote for this guy again?

Oh, that's right, simply because he's not Obama and he has an "R" behind his name.

73 posted on 08/08/2012 9:36:53 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: IbJensen

From 300 million Americans, we are stuck with Romneystiltskin or FUBO? Why bother?


74 posted on 08/08/2012 9:37:53 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: sickoflibs; IbJensen; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; ...

” Is there some reason why boy scouts need to express their sexuality anyway?”

No.
There is only one reason homos have fought so hard to be Boy Scout leaders....to molest the kids. Anyone who believes otherwise is dumber than a box of rocks....apparently, that includes Romney.

” “In fact, according to research published in the Archives of Sexual Behavior, they are ten times more likely to molest children than heterosexual men,” he said. “Gov. Romney’s position, if adopted by the BSA, would put the sexual innocence of untold numbers of young boys at risk.””


75 posted on 08/08/2012 9:56:54 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: marstegreg

What really bothers me about this is the same thing that bothers me about libs. The thought police. Romney should be allowd to feel however he wants as long as he does not impose his beliefs on others.

The problem is, Romney is running as a Republican, not a Democrat. The idea behind having distinct parties is having distinct platforms whereon we can be represented by individuals who share our ideals and values. Romney is a pro-homosexualization, pro-mandate, pro-abortion, pro-bailout, pro-amnesty, pro-guncontrol, pro-stimulus, pro-deathpanel candidate. He should be running against Obama in the Democrat's primary. He fails utterly to represent conservatives. It is misleading and insulting to have him on our ticket and it damages the Republican brand, making future elections that much more difficult to secure.


76 posted on 08/08/2012 10:07:43 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Strange as it may seem, I have heard of a few cases where  umpires (of boys baseball) have been arrested for improper behavior with young boys.  You wouldn't think they would come into contact on that level with the kids.

It has been my take that father volunteers pretty much ran the day to day Boy Scout efforts.  Why would there be a need for guys that weren't parents to get involved?

The boy's parents get involved and then drop out as their kid grows out of that age group.  Then the parents of new scouts get involved.

Isn't that sort of a built in safety measure?  I know some dads do bad things too, but at least they have some vested interest in the program.

77 posted on 08/08/2012 10:11:46 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: Venturer

If we had another who would it be, another chithead just like this one. Paul is a nut, Gingrich is dead in the water, Santorum sucks, and Goode has about as much chance as a snowball in hell.

Do you have a history of joining an enemy you feel cannot be beaten? How very Benedict Arnold'ish. Draw a line somewhere, anywhere.


78 posted on 08/08/2012 10:12:16 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: pfony1

There are articles out there at times that are not Obama’s dirty-tricks brigade at work, and this is one of those. You are too focused on the dirty-tricks apparently to realize when it’s in play versus Romney’s own self inflicted Leftisms.

Life Side News is NOT a pro Obama site, and Romney has a track record on the BSA homosexual matter along with many other Leftist perspectives.

Your response to my post was an error. You should have posted to someone else’s comment in line with the intent of your response. Mine was not about NOT voting for Romney as you wished it to be. Mine was about it being a damned shame Romney apparently is what we have to vote for at this critical time in the history of our Nation.


79 posted on 08/08/2012 10:12:53 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: pfony1

I don't recall any accusations of a dirty tricks brigade working for Team Obama back in 2008 when that liberal piece of work Romney was hustling for the Republican nomination and being found inferior in conservative credentials to even that RINO McCain. Conservatives are a pretty consistent bunch. Romney was not good enough in 2008. He has not changed his tune and he isn't good enough in 2012. He is being justly lambasted for his liberalism by conservatives. Obama has nothing to do with it. But feel free to keep throwing that spaghetti around; it might stick somewhere.


80 posted on 08/08/2012 10:19:42 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: so_real

The problem is, Romney is running as a Republican, not a Democrat.The idea behind having distinct parties is having distinct platforms whereon we can be represented by individuals who share our ideals and values.

What I hate MOST about the current administration is how polarized they are and how divisive they are. I don’t want Romney to become the conservative Obama. I want a President who does not alienate all the people he does not completely agree with. We need to be pulled together, not torn apart. I don’t agree with Romney on everything, but that’s OK. I firmly believe that if we control the congress and the senate, Romney will sign the legistlation.


81 posted on 08/08/2012 10:28:59 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: xzins

Let’s see now...

A few days ago, one of Romney’s spokespeople was razzle-dazzled into saying to a reporter/heckler “His position has not changed.”

You know, Romney’s position that the Boy Scount organization — not Obama’s Justice Department — should decide who is to be admitted.

And now YOU seem to think that Romney has plans to FORCE the Boy Scouts to admit deviant leaders.

In the first place, that thought does not fit the facts that we know.

And in the second place, consider that the US Supreme Court actually COULD force the Boy Scouts to admit deviant leaders.

So who is more likely to name Barney Frank to be our next Supreme Court Justice: Obama? Or Romney?

I do hope that this comment has cleared up what the REAL issue should be:

Obama delenda est!


82 posted on 08/08/2012 10:29:15 AM PDT by pfony1
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To: IbJensen

How impossibly frigging stupid do you have to be to pander to 2-3% of the population at the expense of over half of the rest of us? He will NEVER get their vote, even if he marches in their parades. Same for blacks, hispanics and most Independents (someone who I believe is just an intellectual coward).

Is Romney taking the same pills that crazy McCain took when he ran? I just flat-a$$ don’t understand this undying whip-dog need for Republicans to pander to those sectors of the population that contribute nothing to the national advancement of principles and morals and overall well-being of its citizens.

Seriously? Let homosexual deviants join (and lead - this is what the homosexual deviants want- young boys? - Teach them all the BSA principles? Huh?). I just don’t get it.

I never supported him, but had resigned myself to voting for him because I know what Obama is and will do, but I’m beginning to think this whip-dog stuff is going to get Obama elected again. Has God left this country?


83 posted on 08/08/2012 10:29:58 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: donna

Romney’s position is evil. No one should vote for such a man

Romney’s position is that they boy scouts should decide for themselves. Anything else he said was politics. He threw the gay community a little bone so they didn’t freak out. I think it was smart of him to do so. He also let them know he supports the freedom of the scouts to decide for themselves who they want and who they don’t. I just don’t se that as evil. What IS evil is Obama getting a second term. I will never let that happen. Who exactly will you be voting for?


84 posted on 08/08/2012 10:36:59 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: SZonian

He has personally and quite publically aligned himself on the opposite side of conservatives on this issue

He said he supports the right of the boy scouts to choose for thrmselves who they accept. I agree with him. He stood up for the boy scouts and then he threw the gay community a bone so they would not throw a hissy fit. He did not say the boy scouts need to accept gays. He said it is a decision that needs to be made by the scouts. I fully support that . He aligned himself with everyone who does not want to be told what to think and do. That would be me.


85 posted on 08/08/2012 10:43:53 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: IbJensen

Personally, I felt - and continue to feel - that Newt Gingrich would make an excellent president.

Alas, America’s Republicans didn’t agree with me.


86 posted on 08/08/2012 10:45:26 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: DoughtyOne

” It has been my take that father volunteers pretty much ran the day to day Boy Scout efforts.”

Just as my dad did, when I was a Boy Scout.

” Why would there be a need for guys that weren’t parents to get involved?”

I wonder how many good Boy Scout advocates had the wisdom to ask this very question when under attack by the homo lobby? I can’t think of a better one.


87 posted on 08/08/2012 10:46:51 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: JimRed

I’ve often said that capable people with less than conservative personal beliefs should not be automatically discounted if they are willing to put “feelings” aside and abide by the will of the people.

Thank you! Most of the comments I have received have excoriated me for what I wrote. I don’t really understand where they are coming from. Perhaps the Obama campaign is just trying to stir up some controversy?


88 posted on 08/08/2012 10:50:24 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: mikeus_maximus; All
If Romney somehow squeaks in, it won't all "get better." He's a liberal, and he'll act like a liberal. When his fiscal policies fail, the Democrats will point to that as a failure of "conservatism", just like they did with Bush, and sweep another openly liberal Dem into the White House on promises of hope and change.

I am sad to say that you speak the truth.

I'm voting for a plurality, and the only way to do that is to vote third party. I hope you will join me. Every third party vote (it doesn't much matter who for) will count toward reducing the total popular vote percentage of whichever statist liberal wins, and God willing, whether it's Obama or Romney, he will enter office ONLY on a plurality, where the majority of the popular vote went to someone else. As it has done in the past, it would favor conservatives in Congress in opposing the liberal policies of the next statist in the White House. be it Obama or Romney.

Furthermore, providence and the Almighty have blessed us with the unique circumstance where Obama has become so loathed and deserted by former supporters, that he is WEAK and has little chance of netting a majority; many who voted for him last time will desert him at the ballot box this time. So rejecting Romney for a third party candidate presents very little risk of seeing Obama win a majority, and has double value in that it WILL count toward denying a popular mandate to either one.

It's all pretend to "vote against" Obama -- 100 percent imaginary, cannot be done, no more than I can vote "against" Romney. There's no such thing -- any ballot anywhere EVER only gives you the choice of voting FOR, never "against." Even when you vote "against" a proposition, you're actually voting FOR nixing it. VOTING "AGAINST" OBAMA IS ALL IMAGINARY.

ABOers tell themselves they're voting "against" Obama, but that is only feel-good talk. In practice and in fact, they'd be voting FOR an extreme statist liberal, albeit one registered in the Republican party, to become the most powerful Republican in America. That is ONLY and ALL that they would be voting for, as voting "against" is entirely imaginary.

I will be voting FOR a plurality, because I know no matter how I vote or which major candidate wins, an extreme liberal statist will get the White House, so the best I can do is vote specifically to weaken his victory and put him on the defensive. The last two times a liberal won the presidency on a plurality, he was bulldozed to the right by the Republican Revolution and then impeached.

You can vote to empower statism, or you can vote to weaken it. Those, ABOers, are your two choices.

89 posted on 08/08/2012 10:55:04 AM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: pfony1; P-Marlowe; wagglebee; SoConPubbie
I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation.”

Campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul confirmed that Mitt Romney continues to hold that belief today.

However, she said Romney, who served as a member of its executive board, has not pressured the organization to change its stance and does not wish to see the Scouts forced to accept homosexuals. LifeSiteNews.com revealed that some chapters of the Boy Scouts do not consider the national organization’s prohibition of homosexuals serving as scouts or adult leaders binding policy.

See the top quote, pfony. Those are Romney's words. That says to social conservatives that Romney BELIEVES in gays participating in the Boy Scouts.

Anyone can see why that has made social conservatives a bit antsy.

His spokesman comes out and says that position hasn't changed. She adds he hasn't "pressured" anyone and that he doesn't wish to see it "forced" to change. None of that is reassuring. Romney still believes gays should be a part, and he would hate to see a change forced on it. ("I'd hate to see you sent to bed with supper, son." does not mean "you are NOT under any circumstances going to be sent to bed without supper.)

All of these conservatives are seeing something there that worries them. What do you think it is?

Now, so far as Barney Frank, neither of them will appoint Barney to be on Scotus.

However, John Paul Stevens, one of the most liberal justices of our day was appointed by a Republican (Gerald Ford, I belive.)

So, I have no reassurance at all that liberal Mitt would appoint conservative justices. He did not in Massachusetts. His track record says he won't as president.

90 posted on 08/08/2012 11:03:17 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode Not Evil: The lesser of 2 evils is still evil!)
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To: marstegreg

marstegreg – “He did not say the boy scouts need to accept gays.”

You’re parsing, here’s what he said…

MR – “I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation.”

SZ- “The problem for me here is that he has come out espousing a public position that is in agreement with the queer agenda.” [Premise for my position, which was ignored.]

I’m in the trenches fighting this war, and I know for a fact what comments like his mean in the overall battle plan. It gives comfort to the enemy and helps to demoralize those who are fighting against the queers.

When you have the presumptive Republican nominee coming out and publically siding with the queers with regards to participation, who benefits? The BSA or the queers?

His apparent disdain for the dangers of such a position also brings his judgment and character into question by the mere fact that male pedophiles are homosexuals, an “orientation”.

What part of “morally straight” doesn’t Mormon Bishop Romney understand? The Mormon Scouts and Scouters that I know are well versed in its meaning which makes Romney an outlier. Questionable to say the least.

Regardless of his “right to choose” comment, he then proceeds to completely undermine its signifcance by injecting his personal views in an obvious “bone” to the queers. It does nothing to offer support to the BSA or its advocates.

On the contrary, it helps to undermine it and serves only to further embolden the enemy.


91 posted on 08/08/2012 11:16:46 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Have you ever been in a meeting and there was one of those dead air moments, when there was an obvious question on everyone’s mind, and nobody was going to ask it?

I suspect this may have been one of those moments.


92 posted on 08/08/2012 11:22:21 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: IbJensen

>>>Romney said, “I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue. I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation.” <<<

Weasel words. In the first sentence, he’s saying that it’s up to the Boy Scouts. In the second sentence, he’s telling us what he would do if he was in charge of the Boy Scouts, which he isn’t, so it doesn’t matter.

He’s just trying to wiggle around the issue by trying to appeal to all sides. Which, by the way, doesn’t make me feel real confident about the guy.


93 posted on 08/08/2012 11:28:52 AM PDT by redpoll
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To: DoughtyOne

I suspect you are correct.


94 posted on 08/08/2012 11:32:18 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: SZonian

On the contrary, it helps to undermine it and serves only to further embolden the enemy.

I like that he stood up for the boyscouts without alienating the gay community. This is what Presidents do (or at least they should). They need to at least appear to represent everyone. This administration repersents ONLY their own ideology. I like that Mitt at least attempted not to alienate them while supporting the scouts. I do not agree with everything he believes, but I appreciate his attempt to at least acknowlege another point of view.


95 posted on 08/08/2012 11:33:09 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg
"I like that he stood up for the boyscouts..."

He did nothing of the kind. You are choosing to ignore the underlying danger here. His support for queers to participate in the BSA.

96 posted on 08/08/2012 11:39:30 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: xzins; pfony1; P-Marlowe; wagglebee; SoConPubbie
However, John Paul Stevens, one of the most liberal justices of our day was appointed by a Republican (Gerald Ford, I belive.)

Let us not forget Earl Warren (Ike); Harry "Rest in Hell" Blackmun (Roe v Wade) (Nixon); David "Left of everyone" Souter (Bush 1). Three of the most liberal justices in history, all appointed by Republicans.

97 posted on 08/08/2012 11:43:53 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; IbJensen; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy

Why doesn’t Romney just hand the election over to Obama right now?

Geez...what a PUTZ...

When my kid was in the Scouts, we (fathers and Scout masters) got together and spoke of this issue, as it was just starting to surface.

We all unanimously agreed that it was unacceptable to have our boys anywhere near queer scoutmasters, should the organization cave in and allow them into the program.

I have no problem discriminating against anyone or anything when it comes to the safety of my kids. None whatsoever.


98 posted on 08/08/2012 12:12:26 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: IbJensen

IbJensen, you are right; even on this forum, all the attention was on the Santorum-Gingrich fight for second place, which ultimatley meant nothing. Our own primary voters are to blame for American’s certain decline.


99 posted on 08/08/2012 12:26:55 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Sounds like Mittens is trying to get the JoePA backers on board.


100 posted on 08/08/2012 12:29:37 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people again let us down in this election cycle.)
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