Posted on 08/08/2012 5:35:12 AM PDT by IbJensen
ROTFLMAO!! So the way I am to 'participate' and 'take a stand' is to vote for the antithesis of everything I believe in? HAHAHAHAHAHA! Do you listen to yourself?
I will reiterate: I do not have a 'guy'. I never did have a guy, so your theory is without any basis. I am 'involved' down-ticket, and through the TEA Parties and Pro-Life movement. And I will vote for any Conservative on the presidential line, or any that can be validly written in. I will never vote for that POS that you are pimping (and, btw, I don't personally know anyone who will).
You are the type person Judge Roberts was talking about..... if you don’t choose wisely someone else will. And if you can’t work within the process you’re really not much good anyone and have marginalized yourself.
HAHAHAHA! 'Choosing wisely'... For that which destroys every conservative cause... You have to be joking. No one can believe this idiocy. Here's a clue, pal: If offered a choice between a sh*t burger and a puke sandwich, the ONLY logical, sensible, reasonable choice is to refuse both. And it is not me who is marginalized. It is Romney, and by extension, the GOP (and by further extension, YOU) that is marginalized. I am still working relentlessly for the things the GOP says they believe in - It is the GOP that isn't standing up for those things - and thereby marginalizing itself.
Lastly, as I said before the democrats will appreciate you not voting against their guy....
Then conversely, you should be appreciative that I am not 'voting against your guy' either. Your reasoning is obtuse. You cannot 'vote against' anyone. you only vote *for*. I will vote *for* anyone who can be seen to uphold Conservative, and particularly Judeo-Christian principles. That ain't your guy, by a LOOOONG shot.
And what is funny is that you know it. You are not demonstrating the accomplishments of your candidate, saying "See, you are not right about him: He did this, and this and that..." LOL!... BECAUSE you have *nothing* to defend him with! He's a piece of crap, and you know it.
“That is utter incomprehensible thinking revolving around an obsession over one single person (Romney).”
Rush is wrong, as are you - that has been discussed on other threads when Rush showed how “out of touch” he is. However, you (and your ilk) have “utter incomprehensible thinking revolving around an obsession over one singe person (OBAMA).” No matter how unacceptable Romney is, you are so focussed on Obama that you would vote for Adolf Hitler if he were running against Obama.
You are so obsessed with Obama, that you cannot see that Romney is NOT an improvement and certainly NOT a conservative. IMO, your ilk will be the death of conservatism.
And those of you who refuse to see how dangerous Obama is will be the death of our country.
Quite incorrect: The far right Constitutional conservatives are the only ones who pay the Constitution due deference. That does not apply as well in my case, as I am a Reagan Conservative. While the Constitution is key to me too, I see things in the broader sense of upholding the principles of all Conservative factions.
b. It’s either Obama or Romney. Period.
So the 'liberal trap' is to vote for either a liberal or a liberal. As I said upthread, the only sensible thing to do is refuse both. The advancement of the principles I support is not accomplished by voting for either, and in fact, either one will predictably be deleterious to my cause... How the hell does voting for that which is abhorrent solve anything? Doesn't it just make that which is abhorrent seem popular and lend it credence it doesn't natively possess?
No FRiend, it is you that is blinded. If one continually settles for politicians, it is little wonder why there are no statesmen. If one continually votes in that which opposes us, it is little wonder that there is no opposition to that which we abhor.
Sooner or later you will have to draw a hard line that you simply will not cross. I would encourage you to contemplate where you think that is.
“And those of you who refuse to see how dangerous Obama is will be the death of our country.”
You fool. EVERYONE recognizes how dangerous Obama is to the country. However, your ilk are so OBTUSE, or NOT REALLY CONSERVATIVE, that you don’t recognize that Romney is NOT the solution to Obama. If you get him elected, YOU WILL HAVE SERIOUS BUYER’S REMORSE.
Also, I have more faith in the resilence of the United States than you have. I think the country can survive him...especially if he so burns the “liberal mindset” in the public view that folks won’t vote that way anymore for decades.
I will leave this with a quote for Jim Robinson:
“Well, I’m not staying home, but I’m not voting for no damned abortionist/homosexualist statist either. I will not cast a vote for the chief architect of ObamaCare (Mitt Romney)!! I’ll be voting straight conservative!!”
I have no more time for you guys (and gals), that are so hell-bent on getting ginned-up on Romney that you all are incomprehensibly blinded to this country’s real enemy. You all are still hopelessly lost in the primary fight. Sad.
I respect those who never wanted Romney to be the nominee, and who will not vote for Romney because of deep beliefs, but I stop where there now continues to be a constant campaign to TRY TO DEFEAT Romney in November by continuing to raise old primary war battles.
You can continue to demoralize our side with your endless anti-Romney campaign (as the DUers are also doing) while we now engaged in trying to defeat the Socialists - but you are doing the work of the RATs. I will not be part of adding fuel to this psychotic campaign.
Collaborator: one who engages in “traitorous cooperation with the enemy”
Sort of hits a nerve, doesn’t it?
“Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; may your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” — Samuel Adams
“You can continue to demoralize our side with your endless anti-Romney campaign (as the DUers are also doing) while we now engaged in trying to defeat the Socialists - but you are doing the work of the RATs. I will not be part of adding fuel to this psychotic campaign.”
I consider persons like you that will sell out conservative values for the pragmatic purpose of eliminating Obama to be fools of the highest order. I know you are OBTUSE, but get this straight in your dense head. ROMNEY IS NOT BETTER THAN OBAMA. Each are equally bad in differing and similar ways. You are BEING LIBERAL to vote for Romney...you are SUPPORTING A LIBERAL AGENDA TO VOTE FOR ROMNEY. Romney is a liberal. Jim Robinson has pointed this out repeatedly. Get you head on straight.
I WILL NOT be a slave to the GOP Establishment that pushed this scum on us. I will NOT be a FOOL like your ilk.
Stop promoting left wing liberalism (in disguise) by trying to make the unacceptable Romney to appear acceptable. It is a fool’s errand.
“Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; may your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” — Samuel Adams
Well said. I am so sick of these Romneyphiles polluting Free Republic with nonsense that attempts to make the unaccepatble (Romney) appear acceptable. I am also sick of them being guided entirely by fear of Obama instead of being rational and recognizing the Romney is NOT a solution to Obama...and may be worse in many ways.
I directly quote Jim Robinson again:
“Well, I’m not staying home, but I’m not voting for no damned abortionist/homosexualist statist either. I will not cast a vote for the chief architect of ObamaCare (Mitt Romney)!! I’ll be voting straight conservative!!”
“I do not campaign for liberals, if you want to go ahead.”
You don’t campaign against them either.... unless they are Republican.
mmmmm
Horseshit
I do not campaign for liberals which would eliminate the entire democrat party.
Why not do something to elect your liberal guy and stop focusing on me and who I vote for or don’t vote for
“Then conversely, you should be appreciative that I am not ‘voting against your guy’ either. “
I am appreciative you are not voting against the Republican running against Obama... not sure that was the point though.
But as I said over and over, the democrats will appreciate you not voting against Obama.
You could probably put that one on a DU profile or sell to a democratic campaign: “I won’t vote against Obama”
Just be honest.... and say you’re ok with Obama as your president because you will not vote against him.
You fool. EVERYONE recognizes how dangerous Obama is to the country. However, your ilk are so OBTUSE, or NOT REALLY CONSERVATIVE, that you don’t recognize that Romney is NOT the solution to Obama. If you get him elected, YOU WILL HAVE SERIOUS BUYER’S REMORSE.
Also, I have more faith in the resilence of the United States than you have. I think the country can survive him...especially if he so burns the “liberal mindset” in the public view that folks won’t vote that way anymore for decades.
I will leave this with a quote for Jim Robinson:
“Well, I’m not staying home, but I’m not voting for no damned abortionist/homosexualist statist either. I will not cast a vote for the chief architect of ObamaCare (Mitt Romney)!! I’ll be voting straight conservative!!”
You moron. This guy isn't Clinton. He isn't Gore. He isn't even Kerry. Obama wants to CHANGE AMERICA. He has already stated open contempt for our constitution and economic system. This isn't a socialist swing like they have gone through in Europe...this is more akin to Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro or Lenin.
Don't say that it can't happen here, it absolutely can. With over half the people dependent on the government in one way or another, with the judicial branch ruling against the constitution, with half of Congress agreeing with him and the other half with no balls, it not only CAN happen here, IT IS ALREADY HAPPENING HERE!
As I said before: It is impossible to vote against anyone. There is not a "[ ] Yes [ ] No" along side each name on the ballot. Ergo, you are voting *FOR* a candidate. Obviously, your particular brand of 'conservatism' allows you to vote for abortion, homo marriage, gun control, and etc, as that is what you are undoubtedly supporting in voting for Romney.
I certainly do not want Obama to win... but I do not want Romney to win either. There is little difference between them, so why would I give a crap which one wins? All I can do is vote *FOR* those who lift up American Conservatism, and let God do the rest.
And such has always been the case. Conservatives vote their conscience. They vote for the principles they stand upon. The GOP has been crying in their beer as long as I have been alive because trying to herd Conservatives is like trying to herd cats. When the GOP stands upon Conservatism, then they win, because the Conservatives vote for them. No herding is necessary, and it is not effective.
I do not discount your point that we need the GOP to stand on Conservatism. But never though out history can that be done by working from the outside of the organization to effect change within.
Large organizations change slowly by consistently pushing them in the direction you want them to go. As more are convinced to join things do change, organizations have inertia, and compromise sucks, but that is how the system is designed. (or was before Obama decided to break the laws)
Obama is a criminal who was never qualified to be President. Romney may be perceived as a liberal but he is an accomplished businessman, politician and administrator, and not a criminal.
Votes count, non votes do not.
Do you really think you can reason or provide a logical argument to a person who’s basic belief system is that if you do not agree with them you are an Obama supporter or an extreme liberal.
They have only one reply - Obama and the democrats thank you.
Its like trying to have a discussion with jello, and asking it to stop squirming.
“Don’t say that it can’t happen here, it absolutely can. With over half the people dependent on the government in one way or another, with the judicial branch ruling against the constitution, with half of Congress agreeing with him and the other half with no balls, it not only CAN happen here, IT IS ALREADY HAPPENING HERE!”
You are just a coward...plain and simple, and ultimately have no faith the American public or in God to rectify the situation. I read the news just like you do and I’m fully aware of the situation. You are letting your fear cloud your judgement, or you are REALLY a Romney supporter pretending to be ABO (I can’t tell anymore). This IS NOT the end of the world. I remember well the “fear and dread” we were all in when Clinton took office. We survived it, and we will survive this. If we don’t, then it is God’s judgement. Sometimes it takes a kick in the pants by the Good Lord to get us to wake up. I include myself in that wake-up call. I’m certainly fallible.
However, I am 100% certain that God is not on Obama’s side. I’m also 100% certain that God would not approve of me voting for an abortionist/homophile/statist and Mormon Cultest - God is not on Romney’s side either. That is not negotiable to me. His record as a liberal already disqualified Romney for me, but his strong ties to Salt Lake City is a total deal breaker.
I see it this way. Asking me to pick Romney over Obama is like asking me to chose between Horse manure (Romney) or Pig Manure (Obama). It could, and is, argued here by the ABO crowd (i.e. you) that Horse manure isn’t as bad as Pig manure. However, it escapes them that either way you are getting manure! I WILL NOT settle for manure pushed on me by the GOP establisment. IF they cannot remedy the situation...Romney...and replace him with a full conservative (to include moral, national defense, & fiscal) then they don’t get my vote. I will not vote for him EVER. No matter how bad you “end of civilization as we know it” types keep spouting. I’m voting third party, barring some extreme event.
Romney is probably going to win the election because the economy is so bad. If he doesn’t, it just shows how innept the GOPe and the process that made him the candidate is. I won’t be a party to helping them screw up.
If the congress, as you say, is too anemic to counter Obama, they certainly we be more so against Romney and his real liberal/leftest nature will run amok. I won’t help that happen...EVER. I’m voting third party on the POTUS issue.
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