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New Burst of Energy Could Bring Cold Fusion to Front Burner
US News and World Report ^ | 8 August 2012 | Jeff Nesbit

Posted on 08/09/2012 5:08:13 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog

After decades of wandering in the scientific wilderness, cold fusion may be returning to the land of the acceptable.

It's been more than 20 years since esteemed researchers Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann electrified the world with news that they'd observed low-energy nuclear reactions, or LENR, at the atomic level that generated excess heat, holding out the promise of "cold fusion" that did not require the blast furnace of nuclear fission as part of the energy-creating process.

Cold fusion is, conceivably, a third type of nuclear reaction (after fission and so-called hot fusion) that somehow occurs at relatively low temperatures. When Pons and Fleischmann, two of the world's leading electrochemists at the time, reported in 1989 that their tabletop, experimental apparatus had produced anomalous heat that could only be explained by some sort of a nuclear process, the race to define or explain cold fusion began. Pons and Flesichmann also reported that they'd observed small amounts of nuclear reaction byproducts.

However, because the Pons-Fleischmann results couldn't be repeated consistently--and since it was also discovered that they had not, in fact, observed any nuclear reaction byproducts--cold fusion has largely been rejected, and Pons and Fleischmann discredited, by the mainstream scientific community.

While there have been sporadic reports of LENR findings of "excess heat"--basically, that "something happened" that defies explanation--there is still no generally accepted theoretical model of cold fusion.

In fact, the notion of "cold fusion" can be something of a dead end, with virtually no one interested in funding serious research in the effort and reputable scientists leery of ruining their careers by pursuing what some might consider alchemy.

Two separate Department of Energy panels (first in 1989 and then again in 2004) largely dismissed the cold fusion theory and recommended against any sort of a new DOE program to adequately study it, although both did indicate that some sort of modest financial support for small experiments might be warranted.

Despite all this, the hope that cold fusion somehow works and that clean, abundant, free energy might be just around the corner has been an alluring siren call for a few researchers working quietly in the past two decades. And now, it seems, some relatively interesting players seem at least willing to test the waters to finally determine whether cold fusion is real and can be modeled and tested properly with real equipment…or whether it's just a myth after all.

The notion that some big players are showing interest in LENR has set the small community of researchers who have continued to investigate cold fusion buzzing. LENR is real, these researchers claim, even if cold fusion research is almost never published in peer-reviewed scientific journals. In short, they've been asking places like DOE or others to jump in the water with them and see if more than 100 largely unsubstantiated (and non-peer-reviewed) reports of observed excess heat effects by some unexplained interaction of hydrogen or deuterium with metals like nickel, platinum, or palladium mean something.

This small community of researchers working with tiny budgets claims that to have made substantial progress in the past few years. But it can't explain the observed effects within the current standard model. And no one can explain how transmuting one material into another at the nuclear level--e.g., nickel nano-powder and hydrogen into copper at low temperatures (freeing up excess energy at the atomic level with no harmful nuclear byproducts or radiation)--is feasible or even possible. But that hasn't stopped the patenting process, and there are a few now that explore LENR systems that use this process in concert with electromagnetic stimulation.

But what has inspired hope within this small community are several recent developments: LENR demonstration projects recently initiated at respected places like MIT, the University of Missouri, and the University of Bologna; public presentations by executives at one of the world's largest instrument companies, National Instruments, apparently designed to attract the top LENR researchers into a project to test and quantify observed LENR effects; and a July report from the European Commission's research and development center that LENR at least has sustainable future energy technology potential.

But near the top of the cold fusion research community's hit parade are musings from NASA, like the fact that the agency apparently filed two LENR-related patents last year and that a leading NASA scientist has indicated that LENR is real enough to pay attention to and study. Boeing and NASA may even be testing aircraft using LENR or other similar concepts.

The benefits of LENR would be obvious: It would be green, safe, and carbon-free, capable of cheaply replacing current energy sources. The most common experimental LENR tests use nickel and hydrogen--the most abundant metal and gas on Earth--in a non-combustion process to allegedly form copper plus energy. The promise alone is almost certainly why reputable, big players are at least paying attention now.

None of this says that cold fusion is real. None of this means that senior executives at big companies like Boeing or National Instruments or senior officials at federal agencies or departments like NASA, the U.S. Navy, or DOE are willing to commit publicly to spending meaningful taxpayer dollars on cold fusion research. In fact, the Navy reportedly shut down its LENR research in California earlier this year after a news report on its efforts led to unwanted publicity.

But it does beg the question: If some big players and research agencies think LENR is real enough to study, test, quantify and even patent, is cold fusion back in the game?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coldfusion; lenr
Major media report on "cold fusion"
1 posted on 08/09/2012 5:08:19 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

The students at Leopoldo Pirelli High School in Rome, Italy, successfully duplicated the Rossi-Focardi device creating their own working nickel-hydrogen fusion system.


2 posted on 08/09/2012 5:17:10 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Repeal Obamacare, the CITIZENSHIP TAX)
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To: Wonder Warthog

I call B.S., until someone shows me the neutrons.

Cold fusion is like homeopathy. There is no shortage of believers in spite of the lack of evidence.

C.W.


3 posted on 08/09/2012 5:20:46 AM PDT by colderwater
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To: Wonder Warthog

Media speculation on cold fusion.


4 posted on 08/09/2012 5:23:03 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Photobucket
5 posted on 08/09/2012 5:23:43 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: BuffaloJack
"The students at Leopoldo Pirelli High School in Rome, Italy, successfully duplicated the Rossi-Focardi device creating their own working nickel-hydrogen fusion system."

Not really. Their approach is significantly different from the Rossi-Focardi approach (but still considered under the overall umbrella of "Cold Fusion"). There are others who have experimented with similar devices.

6 posted on 08/09/2012 5:28:02 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: colderwater

It may not be cold fusion, but if it’s not then it’s some interesting chemistry and therefore still worth investigating.


7 posted on 08/09/2012 5:30:27 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Seems to me that calling the observations “Cold Fusion” is premature and counterproductive.

There appears to be something going on. We ought to collectively figure out what it is and what the underlying mechanisms are before we hang a name on it that frankly (and perhaps unfairly) has a lot of baggage attached to it.


8 posted on 08/09/2012 5:30:47 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: Wonder Warthog

This states it all: “Cold fusion is, conceivably, a third type of nuclear reaction .... that somehow occurs at relatively low temperatures.”

A Miracle!!!!!


9 posted on 08/09/2012 5:38:38 AM PDT by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: Wonder Warthog

USN&WR no longer publishes their weekly news magazine.


10 posted on 08/09/2012 5:39:52 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: BuffaloJack

After all the hollering about Rossi for a year or two, now that he’s supposed to be producing actual generators the press about him seems to have disappeared.


11 posted on 08/09/2012 6:04:21 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Wonder Warthog

A likely source of the “excess energy” is the oxidation of the metal electrodes.


12 posted on 08/09/2012 6:11:25 AM PDT by DrDavid (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: Kevmo

Ping!.........


13 posted on 08/09/2012 6:28:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Oberon
My back of the envelope cold fusion experiments with nickel are working out OK. I'm building a 600MW generator in my garage. Photobucket
14 posted on 08/09/2012 6:34:31 AM PDT by super7man
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To: chrisser
"Seems to me that calling the observations “Cold Fusion” is premature and counterproductive.

I don't much care what it gets called. I'm not going to split hairs about nomenclature. My interest is in the physical evidence for the effect, of which there is a great deal.

15 posted on 08/09/2012 6:39:18 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: mfish13
"A Miracle!!!!!"

Nonetheless....a fact.

16 posted on 08/09/2012 6:40:34 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"USN&WR no longer publishes their weekly news magazine."

Well, there is "something" out there that calls itself "US News and World Report". I dropped USN&WR years ago when it made the transition from neutral news source to liberal cheerleading.

17 posted on 08/09/2012 6:45:17 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: DrDavid
"A likely source of the “excess energy” is the oxidation of the metal electrodes."

Nope. WAY too much energy output for that to account for it. Read up on Celani's recent INVITED demonstartion at NIWEEK (National Instrument's "cross-fertilization" symposium).

18 posted on 08/09/2012 6:45:59 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

Anomalous Heat Effects (AKA: Low Energy Nuclear Reactions)

Listen as Dr. Duncan and Greg Morrow talk about our need to expand our experimental approach to develop more research on anomalous heat effects. These effects have been referred to as ‘cold fusion’ and ‘low-energy nuclear reactions’ in the past, but these names imply an understanding of the physical origin of these anomalous effects that in fact does not yet exist. NI LabVIEW is at the heart of each of these experiments that may help develop and unravel the mysteries of the many theories.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4HG9raN_2U&feature=player_embedded

from:

Robert Duncan at NIWeek on the Anomalous Heat Effect
http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/08/robert-duncan-at-niweek/


19 posted on 08/09/2012 6:52:14 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: super7man

...everybody’s a comedian... [rolls eyes]


20 posted on 08/09/2012 6:52:14 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Sherman Logan

“After all the hollering about Rossi for a year or two, now that he’s supposed to be producing actual generators the press about him seems to have disappeared.”

HARDLY! You have to look in order to see.

http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/08/rossi-pushing-for-e-cat-stability-at-1200-c/

August 7, 2012

“With stable heat at 1000C making 600C steam, the E-Cat should be capable of powering the conventional steam turbines found in modern power plants. At 1200C one would expect steam temperatures even higher. One would expect, or at least hope that some people in the electricity generation industries might be paying attention by now. It’s hard for me to think of any scenario now in which Andrea Rossi would be simply telling lies about these marvelous achievements — unless he is completely insane. I hope that the upcoming validation reports that will be presented at the Zurich conference in September will help to show one way or another who Andrea Rossi really is.”

“UPDATE: Rossi made this report on the JONP today:

To Whom it may interest:
After the validation of the Hot Cat made on July 16th we made today another Third Party Validation, with the Certificator: the results have been the same of the test made on July 16th. The power of the Hot Cat is 10 kW. The maximum temperature we reached has been 1 200 Celsius. Of this validation will be made an indipendent report which will be published soon. This test has been performed in the Product Validation Process that we have asked after the Safety Certification. This test has been directed by an indipendent Nuclear Engineer who is leading the certification processes of the industrial plants.
We are extremely enthusiast of the work of today, because is the second time we get a third party validation in a month, getting the same results.
Warm Regards,
A.R.”


21 posted on 08/09/2012 7:10:44 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman

Dude, I was referring to the articles about him posted on FR. Haven’t seen one in a while.

If his system works, that’s great. Won’t believe it myself until he has an actual production generator up and running for a period of time.

Perhaps the neatest part of all this is that if his system works it will require re-examination of what we think we know about physics, which would be likely to discover other interesting things.


22 posted on 08/09/2012 7:16:51 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Wonder Warthog
I don't much care what it gets called. I'm not going to split hairs about nomenclature. My interest is in the physical evidence for the effect, of which there is a great deal.

I agree on the interest. But I think, rightly or wrongly, "cold fusion" has been discredited and using that term to describe a process that has yet to be understood seems to be a roadblock in the way to research.

It's sad that science has become so politicized and grant based, but it is what it is.

If calling the experiments "unexplained thermal anomolies" or something gets more research focused, that would be progress towards the same end.
23 posted on 08/09/2012 7:17:12 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: Wonder Warthog
use nickel and hydrogen--the most abundant metal and gas on Earth

Huh? Don't reporters even take 6th or 7th grade science??? They're 24th and 10th in abundance respectively...

24 posted on 08/09/2012 7:23:11 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: super7man

You mean Nickel and Copper right? ;-) Nickels are 75% copper...


25 posted on 08/09/2012 7:25:15 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: faucetman

Dude can’t spell independent let alone honesty, or greed


26 posted on 08/09/2012 7:26:57 AM PDT by STD ([You must help] people in theĀ…feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless)
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To: theBuckwheat

Yup. I “just” got through watching Duncan’s NI video. I wish that “some folks” on this site would take his advice to heart........LOOK AT THE DATA. It is amazing to me that some individuals absolutely refuse to examine the evidence.


27 posted on 08/09/2012 7:30:19 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
I subscribed in the 1970s when it was a straight new source.
Its demise didn't surprise me.
28 posted on 08/09/2012 7:39:27 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Major media report on "cold fusion"

If you want to call a blog from a defunct magazine "major media." But the "cold fusion scam" needs all the help it can get so I understand.

29 posted on 08/09/2012 8:34:50 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
I'm not going to split hairs about nomenclature. My interest is in the physical evidence for the effect, of which there is a great deal.

According to your own posted "major media" article they are "largely unsubstantiated (and non-peer-reviewed)."

30 posted on 08/09/2012 8:40:16 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Axenolith

If you say so..... but the whole thing is a mystery to me.
Nonetheless, I’m pressing forward with my 600MW version. It is the size of a Graham Cracker box. You can carry it to work.

I’m gunna be rich, rich, rich.

You want in? Ground floor chance. Just send me $100,000 and your in for 0.000001% of the company.


31 posted on 08/09/2012 9:13:15 AM PDT by super7man
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To: super7man
Nonetheless, I’m pressing forward with my 600MW version.

I sure hope you have better success than the cold fusion guys have had. More than two decades, and so far, no demonstrable device.
32 posted on 08/09/2012 9:25:47 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: ZX12R
More than two decades, and so far, no demonstrable device.

That's good news, I'm neck-n-neck with 'em and I've only been working on it for 30 minutes.

I'm good.

33 posted on 08/09/2012 9:29:34 AM PDT by super7man
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To: super7man
That's good news, I'm neck-n-neck with 'em and I've only been working on it for 30 minutes. I'm good.

Okay, but don't burn yourself.
34 posted on 08/09/2012 9:34:19 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: ZX12R
Okay, but don't burn yourself.

Same thing my Mom used to say...... :o)

35 posted on 08/09/2012 9:38:19 AM PDT by super7man
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To: ZX12R
"I sure hope you have better success than the cold fusion guys have had. More than two decades, and so far, no demonstrable device. "

Well, the "cold fusion" guys are already way ahead of the "hot fusion" crowd, which has had half a century, $250 billion, and has yet to produce a single over-unity device.

And despite your assertions, there have been a number of "demonstrable devices", especially recently, that have demonstrated "over-unity" performance. Celani's is running NOW on the exhibit floor of NIWEEK, and Schwartz's "Nanor" device has been running for months at MIT. And there are others.

36 posted on 08/09/2012 2:46:45 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

Given the economic stakes in examining cold fusion, I can’t see why we shouldn’t shift priorities a bit and provide cold fusion with 10% of the hot fusion fiasco budget. How much money has been poured down the crapper on that one? We would have done better trying to create the cover of a 1950’s Popular Mechanics- a gyrocopter or flying automobile in every garage, a butler robot helping mom do the dishes, dirigibles delivering products to market...


37 posted on 08/09/2012 5:28:51 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Red Badger; dangerdoc; citizen; Liberty1970; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; glock rocks; free_life; ..

The Cold Fusion/LENR Ping List

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles


http://ecatnews.com/?p=1144


38 posted on 08/09/2012 5:56:18 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
"Given the economic stakes in examining cold fusion, I can’t see why we shouldn’t shift priorities a bit and provide cold fusion with 10% of the hot fusion fiasco budget."

I'd settle for 1% (given that $250 BILLION has been spent, with no end in sight). But the "hot fusioneers" are such dog-in-the-manger SOB's that they have even interfered with the donation of PRIVATE funding for CF research (see Hagelstein's attempt to get a few $10K's and the interference by the MIT "hot fusioneers" in seeing that said funding was withdrawn, and that the jobs of those recommending the funding were put in jeopardy).

39 posted on 08/09/2012 6:16:10 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Sherman Logan

Exactly!

I remain middle of the road skeptical / hopeful. This is interesting, and I’m enjoying seeing it play out.


40 posted on 08/09/2012 6:37:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Hagelstein's attempt to get a few $10K's and the interference by the MIT "hot fusioneers" in seeing that said funding was withdrawn, and that the jobs of those recommending the funding were put in jeopardy

Maybe that's because Hagelstein's training is in electrical engineering, not the shadiest area of chemistry. His association with the flaky JET Energy couldn't have helped either.

41 posted on 08/09/2012 6:48:51 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Well, the "cold fusion" guys are already way ahead of the "hot fusion" crowd, which has had half a century, $250 billion, and has yet to produce a single over-unity device.

I did a Google search for over-unity device, and it spit back all sorts of weird things including the Wiki entry for "perpetual motion." LOL!

42 posted on 08/09/2012 6:54:18 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Celani's is running NOW on the exhibit floor of NIWEEK,

Celani claims (unsubstantiated) that he's getting a cool 10 watts of heat after loading his wire for three hours. Sounds like a cure for insomnia to me.

and Schwartz's "Nanor" device has been running for months at MIT.

Nothing more than "Schwartz says," and he's a cold fusion crank who doesn't even know how to set up a URL for his company's website.

43 posted on 08/09/2012 6:59:13 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Kevmo

bflr


44 posted on 08/10/2012 2:47:05 AM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: Wonder Warthog

I don’t think so. I believe it ignore friction, even et the molecular level, and thus heat is created.


45 posted on 08/10/2012 1:09:39 PM PDT by mfish13 (ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!!)
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To: mfish13
"I don’t think so. I believe it ignore friction, even et the molecular level, and thus heat is created."

Where is "friction" going to come from in either electrolysis-based or gas-loaded systems? Also friction would show up in the calorimetry (the end result of friction is, of course, heat), and thus be detected.

46 posted on 08/10/2012 2:48:26 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
It is amazing to me that some individuals absolutely refuse to examine the evidence.

No mystery to me. The most vocal of the nay saying squawkers in no way wish for these processes to be legitimate. They are far too invested in their positions of 'knowledgeable ridicule' to ever again show their faces (so to speak) on FR.

47 posted on 08/12/2012 11:11:57 AM PDT by citizen (America is at an awkward stage...Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards)
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