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New Burst of Energy Could Bring Cold Fusion to Front Burner
US News and World Report ^ | 8 August 2012 | Jeff Nesbit

Posted on 08/09/2012 5:08:13 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog

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To: Sherman Logan

“After all the hollering about Rossi for a year or two, now that he’s supposed to be producing actual generators the press about him seems to have disappeared.”

HARDLY! You have to look in order to see.

http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/08/rossi-pushing-for-e-cat-stability-at-1200-c/

August 7, 2012

“With stable heat at 1000C making 600C steam, the E-Cat should be capable of powering the conventional steam turbines found in modern power plants. At 1200C one would expect steam temperatures even higher. One would expect, or at least hope that some people in the electricity generation industries might be paying attention by now. It’s hard for me to think of any scenario now in which Andrea Rossi would be simply telling lies about these marvelous achievements — unless he is completely insane. I hope that the upcoming validation reports that will be presented at the Zurich conference in September will help to show one way or another who Andrea Rossi really is.”

“UPDATE: Rossi made this report on the JONP today:

To Whom it may interest:
After the validation of the Hot Cat made on July 16th we made today another Third Party Validation, with the Certificator: the results have been the same of the test made on July 16th. The power of the Hot Cat is 10 kW. The maximum temperature we reached has been 1 200 Celsius. Of this validation will be made an indipendent report which will be published soon. This test has been performed in the Product Validation Process that we have asked after the Safety Certification. This test has been directed by an indipendent Nuclear Engineer who is leading the certification processes of the industrial plants.
We are extremely enthusiast of the work of today, because is the second time we get a third party validation in a month, getting the same results.
Warm Regards,
A.R.”


21 posted on 08/09/2012 7:10:44 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman

Dude, I was referring to the articles about him posted on FR. Haven’t seen one in a while.

If his system works, that’s great. Won’t believe it myself until he has an actual production generator up and running for a period of time.

Perhaps the neatest part of all this is that if his system works it will require re-examination of what we think we know about physics, which would be likely to discover other interesting things.


22 posted on 08/09/2012 7:16:51 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Wonder Warthog
I don't much care what it gets called. I'm not going to split hairs about nomenclature. My interest is in the physical evidence for the effect, of which there is a great deal.

I agree on the interest. But I think, rightly or wrongly, "cold fusion" has been discredited and using that term to describe a process that has yet to be understood seems to be a roadblock in the way to research.

It's sad that science has become so politicized and grant based, but it is what it is.

If calling the experiments "unexplained thermal anomolies" or something gets more research focused, that would be progress towards the same end.
23 posted on 08/09/2012 7:17:12 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: Wonder Warthog
use nickel and hydrogen--the most abundant metal and gas on Earth

Huh? Don't reporters even take 6th or 7th grade science??? They're 24th and 10th in abundance respectively...

24 posted on 08/09/2012 7:23:11 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: super7man

You mean Nickel and Copper right? ;-) Nickels are 75% copper...


25 posted on 08/09/2012 7:25:15 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: faucetman

Dude can’t spell independent let alone honesty, or greed


26 posted on 08/09/2012 7:26:57 AM PDT by STD ([You must help] people in theÂ…feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless)
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To: theBuckwheat

Yup. I “just” got through watching Duncan’s NI video. I wish that “some folks” on this site would take his advice to heart........LOOK AT THE DATA. It is amazing to me that some individuals absolutely refuse to examine the evidence.


27 posted on 08/09/2012 7:30:19 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
I subscribed in the 1970s when it was a straight new source.
Its demise didn't surprise me.
28 posted on 08/09/2012 7:39:27 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Major media report on "cold fusion"

If you want to call a blog from a defunct magazine "major media." But the "cold fusion scam" needs all the help it can get so I understand.

29 posted on 08/09/2012 8:34:50 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
I'm not going to split hairs about nomenclature. My interest is in the physical evidence for the effect, of which there is a great deal.

According to your own posted "major media" article they are "largely unsubstantiated (and non-peer-reviewed)."

30 posted on 08/09/2012 8:40:16 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Axenolith

If you say so..... but the whole thing is a mystery to me.
Nonetheless, I’m pressing forward with my 600MW version. It is the size of a Graham Cracker box. You can carry it to work.

I’m gunna be rich, rich, rich.

You want in? Ground floor chance. Just send me $100,000 and your in for 0.000001% of the company.


31 posted on 08/09/2012 9:13:15 AM PDT by super7man
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To: super7man
Nonetheless, I’m pressing forward with my 600MW version.

I sure hope you have better success than the cold fusion guys have had. More than two decades, and so far, no demonstrable device.
32 posted on 08/09/2012 9:25:47 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: ZX12R
More than two decades, and so far, no demonstrable device.

That's good news, I'm neck-n-neck with 'em and I've only been working on it for 30 minutes.

I'm good.

33 posted on 08/09/2012 9:29:34 AM PDT by super7man
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To: super7man
That's good news, I'm neck-n-neck with 'em and I've only been working on it for 30 minutes. I'm good.

Okay, but don't burn yourself.
34 posted on 08/09/2012 9:34:19 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: ZX12R
Okay, but don't burn yourself.

Same thing my Mom used to say...... :o)

35 posted on 08/09/2012 9:38:19 AM PDT by super7man
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To: ZX12R
"I sure hope you have better success than the cold fusion guys have had. More than two decades, and so far, no demonstrable device. "

Well, the "cold fusion" guys are already way ahead of the "hot fusion" crowd, which has had half a century, $250 billion, and has yet to produce a single over-unity device.

And despite your assertions, there have been a number of "demonstrable devices", especially recently, that have demonstrated "over-unity" performance. Celani's is running NOW on the exhibit floor of NIWEEK, and Schwartz's "Nanor" device has been running for months at MIT. And there are others.

36 posted on 08/09/2012 2:46:45 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

Given the economic stakes in examining cold fusion, I can’t see why we shouldn’t shift priorities a bit and provide cold fusion with 10% of the hot fusion fiasco budget. How much money has been poured down the crapper on that one? We would have done better trying to create the cover of a 1950’s Popular Mechanics- a gyrocopter or flying automobile in every garage, a butler robot helping mom do the dishes, dirigibles delivering products to market...


37 posted on 08/09/2012 5:28:51 PM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Red Badger; dangerdoc; citizen; Liberty1970; Wonder Warthog; PA Engineer; glock rocks; free_life; ..

The Cold Fusion/LENR Ping List

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/coldfusion/index?tab=articles


http://ecatnews.com/?p=1144


38 posted on 08/09/2012 5:56:18 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
"Given the economic stakes in examining cold fusion, I can’t see why we shouldn’t shift priorities a bit and provide cold fusion with 10% of the hot fusion fiasco budget."

I'd settle for 1% (given that $250 BILLION has been spent, with no end in sight). But the "hot fusioneers" are such dog-in-the-manger SOB's that they have even interfered with the donation of PRIVATE funding for CF research (see Hagelstein's attempt to get a few $10K's and the interference by the MIT "hot fusioneers" in seeing that said funding was withdrawn, and that the jobs of those recommending the funding were put in jeopardy).

39 posted on 08/09/2012 6:16:10 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Sherman Logan

Exactly!

I remain middle of the road skeptical / hopeful. This is interesting, and I’m enjoying seeing it play out.


40 posted on 08/09/2012 6:37:25 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Nope 2012)
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