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Nate Silver FiveThirtyEight-- Aug. 9: National Polls Shouldn't Panic Romney
New York Times ^ | August 10, 2012 | Nate Silver

Posted on 08/10/2012 5:26:06 AM PDT by hcmama

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Yeah, it's Pravda on the Hudson and all, and Nate is an avowed and open lefty, but this represents overall a pretty fair and thoughtful analysis.
1 posted on 08/10/2012 5:26:19 AM PDT by hcmama
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Why is not Obama losing by 80%?

Because Mr. RomneyCARE represents ... RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE.
and because he won’t attack the DNC.


2 posted on 08/10/2012 5:30:16 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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Anyone else care to respond?


3 posted on 08/10/2012 5:31:56 AM PDT by hcmama
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The intensity of the bile in the propaganda has been increased. Credibility is completely gone. Nate missed his calling as a stand-up comic.


4 posted on 08/10/2012 5:33:11 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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The fox poll, which was a RV poll and had +9 Dem model, had some very bad news for 0bama. Even with stacking the deck, Romeny had a +3 lead when it came to the economy.


5 posted on 08/10/2012 5:34:37 AM PDT by Perdogg (Let's leave reading things in the Constitution that aren't there to liberals and Dems)
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Why is not Obama losing by 80%?

Gee I dunno. Could it be because there are about 72 million Democrats in the US?

6 posted on 08/10/2012 5:35:01 AM PDT by bkepley
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“The fox poll, which was a RV poll and had +9 Dem model, had some very bad news for 0bama.”
Are you looking at the same fox news website I am?
They are saying this:
FOX NEWS POLL: Obama’s Lead Grows as Romney’s Support Slips


7 posted on 08/10/2012 5:37:48 AM PDT by 9422WMR (Life is not fair, just deal with it.)
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I think that is Silver’s point: none of these trends are reflected in the tracking polls, not even in Democrat PeePeePee poll straight out of Chapel Hill.


8 posted on 08/10/2012 5:41:25 AM PDT by hcmama
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To: Clintonfatigued; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; no dems; Kaslin; perfect_rovian_storm; ...

Silver does a fair analysis.


9 posted on 08/10/2012 5:43:42 AM PDT by randita (Either the politicians fix our fiscal insanity, or the markets will.)
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Think samples have anything to do with poll results?

Poll Result Sample
Gallup Obama +2 Dem +3.5
Rasmussen Romney +4 Dem +1.5
CBS/NYT Romney +1 Dem +4

CNN Obama +7 Dem +13
FOX Obama +9 Dem +9
Reuters Obama +7 Dem +11
Pew Obama +10 Dem +19
NBC Obama +6 Dem +11


10 posted on 08/10/2012 5:45:40 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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The fox poll, which was a RV poll and had +9 Dem model, had some very bad news for 0bama. Even with stacking the deck, Romeny had a +3 lead when it came to the economy

What was the sampling data (R vs D vs I) for the Fox poll? I can't get at that link at work. Thanks.

11 posted on 08/10/2012 5:49:51 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: Diogenesis; BlackElk
Because true Patriots, Conservatives, Evangelicals, and Constitution lovers see RINO myth romney for what he is a SOCIALIST! We have read his record as governor, and it reads DEMORAT LIBERAL, not Conservative. We do NOT want more of the same, we want REAL CHANGE. And you won't get that with the Myth the RINO.


12 posted on 08/10/2012 5:50:14 AM PDT by GailA (IF U will not keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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Plus we know how accurate the Obamedia polls have been the last few elections. They never pick up the Tea Party influence.

Pray for America


13 posted on 08/10/2012 5:50:36 AM PDT by bray (If you vote for a Communist, what's that make you?)
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Most of the polls giving Obama a large lead are of registered voters.

Rasmussen has consistently shown Romney up by several points for a month or two. Gallup has consistently shown a tight race.

Network pundits, citing their polls, claim that Obama’s negative ads are working. But this hasn’t been reflected yet in Rasmussen or Gallup.

The last Fox poll showed a significant shift of independents away from Romney, but if they changed their minds once, they can change them again.

I think Romney is okay with where he is now or else he would be much more aggressive in his demeanor and ads. No need to waste the heavy artillery when no one is paying attention yet.

Romney will get a bounce with his VP announcement and also with the convention. Then he’ll begin the onslaught and I think it will be relentless.


14 posted on 08/10/2012 5:51:10 AM PDT by randita (Either the politicians fix our fiscal insanity, or the markets will.)
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To: ScottinVA

Disregard my previous.

Thanks for the breakdown, nhwingut.


15 posted on 08/10/2012 5:51:17 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: hcmama
I recall that the polls showed John Kerry ahead of Bush. The pollsters were even claiming the exit polls showed Kerry ahead.

I recall that Sharon Angle was also showing ahead of the polls in her race against Harry Reid.

I tend to take polls with a grain of salt.

Having said that, I do realize that an awful lot of the American people don't have the intelligence and discernment that God gave a rock.

16 posted on 08/10/2012 5:52:33 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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Silver states Romney does at least two points better on likely voter polls. He also stated August polls were really no more accurate than those in early July.


17 posted on 08/10/2012 5:54:48 AM PDT by hcmama
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“Yeah, it's Pravda on the Hudson and all, and Nate is an avowed and open lefty, but this represents overall a pretty fair and thoughtful analysis.”

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True as I see it. Romney had better get mean and tough real quick. If he doesn't start operating back alley dirty we are screwed. The “moral high ground” won't win any fights against Socialists and other assorted vermin.

18 posted on 08/10/2012 5:55:27 AM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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Romney does seem to take the view that no one is paying attention now. During the primaries he absorbed a lot of body blows before relentlessly unleashing on opponents. Whatever one thinks of his tactics in the primaries, I hope he rains down a veritable sh&&storm on Reverend Wright’s altar boy.


19 posted on 08/10/2012 6:05:33 AM PDT by hcmama
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Yes, Romney BETTER start getting into the race here. Any time, Mittens......... waiting......... waiting......

And he better dump that incompetant Andrea Saul, so called moronic spokesperson that answered “If Soptic lived in Mass. he’d have Romney care”..... AAAAAAAAAAAAAACH! What a buffoon. You think THAT guy will dump Obamacare?

At this point, I see Romney bringing a feather to a gun fight.


20 posted on 08/10/2012 6:07:09 AM PDT by WaterWeWaitinFor (Can we still nominate someone else at the GOP convention? HHMM? Can we?)
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