Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Agenda 21 Radio Live Thread Saturday Aug. 11, 2012
http://edtalkradio.com ^ | 8/11/12 | Paul Preston

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:38:20 AM PDT by Texas Eagle

Agenda 21 Radio airs every Saturday from 4 to 7 a.m. Pacific Time on KMYC 14010AM in Marysville, CA


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: agenda21; sourcetitlenoturl
Post coments here.

Call in at 530-742-5555 or 1-877-211-4525

Watch online at http://www.mysytv.com

Watch previous broadcasts by clicking on the KMYC Archive link on the right side of the page.

1 posted on 08/11/2012 4:38:34 AM PDT by Texas Eagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: TEXOKIE

ping


2 posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:25 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle

http://www.mysytv.com


3 posted on 08/11/2012 4:48:58 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle

The state is buying a sizable chunk of my township while selling state land near Detroit.

http://blog.mlive.com/citpat/news_impact/print.html?entry=/2012/08/dnr_awarded_trust_fund_grant_t.html


4 posted on 08/11/2012 4:50:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

Thanks for the link. I’ll pass it on to Paul.


5 posted on 08/11/2012 4:56:21 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle
Another you might find interesting. Unfortunately Our FReeps didn't read beyond the word "Occupy" and are happily cheering on the other side. They're eating us alive in Michigan because nobody pays attention.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2916562/posts

And some further info on the plans for my beloved Raisin River.

UPPER RIVER RAISIN CONSERVATION AREA PLAN October 2002 (pdf file)
6 posted on 08/11/2012 5:07:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

If you want to discuss this article, give us a call.


7 posted on 08/11/2012 5:08:42 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle

I’m not all that knowledgeable but I do collect info and I am listening.


8 posted on 08/11/2012 5:10:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

Great. I’ll try to sneak in a shout out. You’re in Michigan, right?


9 posted on 08/11/2012 5:11:59 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle; Darren McCarty

Thank you.

From where I sit it seems like a green wall is being built up the Jackson / Washtenaw county line. As it is now there is Waterloo state rec area to the north, Sharon Valley state rec area on two sides of the little town of Norvell and now the new property is just south of town.


10 posted on 08/11/2012 5:21:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

Things that make you go, “hmmmmmmm”.


11 posted on 08/11/2012 5:33:15 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle

My mother has been tracking this a lot longer than I have and she’s a writer. I should have her write a comprehensive summary and I can send it on to you.

If you decide to start a ping list for the show I’d be happy to get on board.


12 posted on 08/11/2012 5:37:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle

Thanks.


13 posted on 08/11/2012 5:39:17 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle

Some things never change—

Declaration of Independence—

“He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.”

I see no difference then as now.


14 posted on 08/11/2012 5:42:33 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle
Rosa Koire, author of Behind the Green Mask: UN Agenda 21 is speaking in Maine this Monday at 6:30 PM, First Baptist Church of Waldoboro (Rt. 1 next to Moody's Diner). Open to all that can attend - free admission.
15 posted on 08/11/2012 5:43:20 AM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek
Sounds good. If she wants to discuss any of this with Paul tell her to feel free to call or e-mail him at paul@edtalkradio.com.

We will be happy to set up an interview if she's up for that.

16 posted on 08/11/2012 5:49:49 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: WKUHilltopper

Agenda 21 is like the Royal Proclamation of 1763 which forbid colonists from crossing the Appalachians. Then as now, it was a means of controlling the royal subjects.

http://www.ushistory.org/us/9a.asp


17 posted on 08/11/2012 5:51:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek; WKUHilltopper; NewHampshireDuo
Thanks for listening and watching. We'll be back next Saturday at 4:00 am Pacific Time.

If you want on or off the ping list, FReepmail me or post request on this thread.

I already got you on the list, cripplecreek.

18 posted on 08/11/2012 6:05:32 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

Why is your township selling?


19 posted on 08/11/2012 6:20:30 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

The township isn’t selling. The private owner can’t afford to keep it any more. When they started talking about it a year or so back the owner said that regulations on land use had made it unprofitable for farming and it was nothing but a growing tax burden.


20 posted on 08/11/2012 6:28:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle

Thanks...I’ll check out the archives too.


21 posted on 08/11/2012 6:43:49 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

Who put the regulations on the land use for the private owner? What are the land use regulations?

You said the State is buying up a sizable portion of the township. Is it just one owner who is selling?


22 posted on 08/11/2012 7:00:40 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne
Between the state and feds there is an ever increasing mountain of regulation. Water makes that mountain even taller and Michigan ranks first in water area. (including the great lakes within Michigan boundaries) We rank second after Alaska in total surface water in inland lakes, swamps, streams etc excluding the great lakes.

That 2000 acres isn't the only land the state is buying with the $68 million in state and federal funds. They're buying another 50 aces here, another 100 there, 25 somewhere else. They even ended up with another quarter acre at the end of my street for non payment of taxes and are letting the Raisin Valley land trust control it.

This map isn't detailed enough to be accurate but it gives an idea of what the state and feds already control. It doesn't show the growing spiderweb of old railroad beds they're buying for greenways and ails to trails crap.

Photobucket

The government has plenty of land already. In fact the taxpayers are going to pay far more than the 2000 aces near me are worth. Its a great deal for the owner but the state will seek to raise revenue elsewhere.
23 posted on 08/11/2012 7:35:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

Thanks,
I just don’t understand why all these large landholders are selling their land to the State. But I guess they just tax them and regulate them until they can’t hold on to it any longer?


24 posted on 08/11/2012 7:49:03 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle; NewHampshireDuo; All

Thanks for the ping, Texas Eagle! Info about this talk show and the Rosa Koire appearance is now posted on the Agenda 21 Action Thread!

If you want to be on or off the Agenda 21 ping list, please notify me by Freepmail. It is a relatively low volume list in which we have been exploring the UN Agenda21 and related topics. We have collected our studies with threads, links, and discussions on the Agenda 21 thread which can be found here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2738418/posts

NEW ACTION THREAD:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2861644/posts

Post 128 of the Action Thread is a summary of the history of Agenda 21, “what they are doing”, “what to do about it” and a good bibliography for further reading.


25 posted on 08/11/2012 8:03:19 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Texas Eagle

It seems to me that a big Fed land sale across the country could generate big bucks to pay down the debt. Open to U.S. Citizens only, and have been residents for at least the past 15 years, would be my additional suggestions.


26 posted on 08/11/2012 8:14:16 AM PDT by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne
Actually, the more I look at this, the more I think this isn't some long suffering poor farmer. This guy owns nearly 5000 acres in this county alone. The two biggest parcels abut land the state already owns.

I think this guy is buying land at rock bottom prices and selling it to the state well above market value. $3 million for 2000 acres seems awfully high when much of it is wetlands

Photobucket

However the real winner is Domino's Farms (Domino's pizza) who is getting $2.275 of taxpayer money for 54 acres.

$2.275M grant will let Washtenaw County buy 54 acres of Domino's Farms land for preservation

I think we're all being ripped off to the tune of some $68 million in state and federal matching funds.
27 posted on 08/11/2012 8:21:15 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

hmmm.
thanks for the additional info.

WHY are we subsidizing people to buy land?


28 posted on 08/11/2012 9:24:03 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Scooter100

You’re making a HUGE assumption that any money generated would go toward paying down debt instead of generate new spending.


29 posted on 08/11/2012 9:25:45 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

There seems to be further manipulation going on. For instance one of the parcels was assessed at some $16,800 in 2010 but this year the same parcel is assessed at $2600. I realize value has fallen but it didn’t fall that much in 2 years.

I’ve spent my morning looking through Jackson County GIS maps.


30 posted on 08/11/2012 9:38:16 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne; cripplecreek
The City of Ann Arbor passed a ballot question a few years back. The goal is to stop urban sprawl and 'preserve open space'. Washtenaw County is quite rural away from the cities and close-in townships. What the ballot question did is tax Ann Arborites to buy up farmland outside of the city so it isn't sold to developers.

It's subsidized because of an unholy alliance of greenies and urbanists who think everyone should live in lofts in "cool cities" to borrow a term from my former idiot governor Jennifer Granholm.

31 posted on 08/12/2012 5:09:43 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Darren McCarty

We seem to be taking a lot of Michigan farmland out of production or putting it under state control like it is in Europe. Meanwhile we talk about the idiocy of farming Detroit which isn’t so much about producing crops as it is collecting billions in soil restoration grants.

Something else that’s interesting is the fact that the new land grab in our area cuts right across the path of the new gas production wells going in.


32 posted on 08/12/2012 5:47:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Darren McCarty; All

Here is why I don’t have a problem with the scenario in Ann Arbor as you have laid it out.

1. You mentioned a ballotm measure, so it sounds like the citizens of Ann Arbor got a direct say in the matter rather than by representative voting. That’s as good as it gets in our system. It’s also as local as you can get with governance. You did not mention State or Federal mandates to do any of this, so I assume this was a local decision.

2. This is no different than the the City of ann Arbor voting to buy up surrounding land and then basically gifting it to developers to build housing. This is what has traditionally happened in the past ... the existing people in cities subsidize private developers to build out new annexed areas. Either way, it’s a local decision.

I hear complaints from conservatives all the time about local politics like this as if it’s some kind of global conspiracy. But isn’t the whole concept of conservativatism to have SMALLER government? Local government at the city or county level is the smallest government we can get. Even if we don’t like what our local citizens approve of, it’s SMALL GOVERNMENT at work.


33 posted on 08/12/2012 6:53:06 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson