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To: ansel12
I call Mitt Bishop because he was a Stake President, the Mormon version of a Catholic Bishop, and we have never had a presidential candidate that high in a religious order. The Romneys are truly powerful and leaders within Mormonism, they arrived here to serve Joseph Smith 170 years ago and have never wavered, they have produced many leaders, including a candidate for Holy Prophet who died before the decision was made, Mitt’s father was a Bishop as well, the Romney family is royalty within the religion and have brought in tens of millions of dollars, and made 2 consecutive attempts to gain the White House. Mitt Romney sought a meeting with his Holy Prophet to ask permission to run for president in 2005 and then announced. You seem to be overselling your story, try to tone it down a little.

Mitt WAS a bishop and he WAS a Stake President. Like the literally thousands of others who have served in such positions, he WAS RELEASED and is no longer serving in that capacity. So now he is simply Brother Romney. That's it. We don't call him Bishop or President, simply Brother because that what he is.

Mitt's family is no different than hundreds of families which go back to the organization of the Church. My family does as well. My ancestors lived with Joseph Smith, worked for him, ran his household and farm. That doesn't make our family royalty in the Church or anything like that. Just as Mitt's family is not royalty. Please. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not have royalty. Everyone participates as an equal.

As for meeting with the President of the Church, Mitt probably went asking for his advice and counsel. But I guarantee you Mitt was not asking for permission, just as I never did and never would have asked permission to go to Harvard, run for statewide office or go to yet another graduate school. It is just not even remotely part of our culture and religion.

You see, the secret key to understanding how The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints works is that we have all been given the gift of the Holy Ghost after our baptism. That means each of us has the ability and opportunity to go to the source, the Savior, and seek and receive inspiration and guidance for our own affairs and decisions in life, and receive personal revelation and inspiration. Sometimes it comes as a feeling, sometimes as unanticipated thoughts and events. But it is always personal. And there is never a requirement or expectation to ask permission of some Church leader regarding personal or even public decisions.

And please don't get all insulted and start throwing the tired insulting canards, "it's all of the devil..." "you are a damned cult" "you are going to hell" "you are totally deceived" etc. Instead, I suggest you consider the Biblical injunction, "you shall know them by their fruits."
82 posted on 08/11/2012 7:40:35 PM PDT by LukeSW (The truth shall make you free!)
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To: LukeSW; Colofornian; Elsie; svcw; Zakeet; Tennessee Nana; aMorePerfectUnion; Godzilla; fishtank; ..
You see, the secret key to understanding how The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints works is that we have all been given the gift of the Holy Ghost after our baptism. That means each of us has the ability and opportunity to go to the source, the Savior, and seek and receive inspiration and guidance for our own affairs and decisions in life, and receive personal revelation and inspiration. Sometimes it comes as a feeling, sometimes as unanticipated thoughts and events. But it is always personal

I hate to break the news to you Luke, but millions of Christians have the "opportunity to go to the source, the Savior...with Christian baptism that has nothing to do with the mormon church.

88 posted on 08/11/2012 8:03:45 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: LukeSW

Man you love to talk about yourself, you didn’t even know about Mitt’s seeking the meeting and asking permission, you still don’t, yet you are lying and “guaranteeing” that he did not do so.

All your rambling nonsense and details about your personal life is just bizarre and unfocused.


89 posted on 08/11/2012 8:08:51 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: LukeSW
And please don't get all insulted and start throwing the tired insulting canards...

Agreed; as there is no need to when BIBLICAL vs MORMON theology is plenty to expose MORMONism's devilish foundation.

139 posted on 08/12/2012 11:50:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LukeSW
Instead, I suggest you consider the Biblical injunction, "you shall know them by their fruits."

Oh...

...we DO!!


 
Matthew 7:15-20
15 “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
 
16 You will know them by their fruits.
 
 
Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? 17 So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. 19  Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
 
 
20 So then, you will know them by their fruits.
 
Yup; we sure know the FALSE prophets of MORMONism quite well!




140 posted on 08/12/2012 11:54:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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