Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

How big is Social Security's funding shortfall?
Pioneer Press/AP ^ | 8-12-12 | Little Stevie Ohlemacher

Posted on 08/12/2012 10:08:28 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

WASHINGTON—Social Security's long-term funding shortfall is big by any measure. How big? That depends on how you look at it. Over the next 75 years, after Social Security drains its trust funds, the massive program is scheduled to pay out $134 trillion more in benefits than it will collect in tax revenue, according to agency data.

That's an immense number that could use further explanation. Three ways to look at $134 trillion spread out over 75 years:

— $30.5 trillion in 2012 dollars. We all know that $134 trillion won't buy nearly as much in 2086 as it would today. Social Security's number crunchers project that annual inflation will average 2.8 percent in the long term, after a short period of slightly lower inflation. When the annual shortfalls are discounted for inflation to 2012 dollars, they come to $30.5 trillion.

— $8.6 trillion in present value. This is a financial term that Social Security uses to reflect the time value of money. It means that if Social Security had an additional $8.6 trillion on hand today and invested it in a security that paid returns of 2.9 percent above inflation for 75 years, the program would have enough money to cover the shortfall.

The problem, of course, is that Social Security doesn't have an additional $8.6 trillion on hand to invest.

(Excerpt) Read more at twincities.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bankrupt; debt; deficit; socialsecurity
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-29 last
To: Norseman

and make this mandatory for gubmint employees to replace their current pensions.


21 posted on 08/12/2012 11:39:25 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: bmwcyle
The American voter has been forced into sleep to keep them in power. If you can see reality, you know our freedom is mostly gone with our nations wealth.

They're living the real Matrix. Give 'em the red pill.

22 posted on 08/12/2012 11:42:20 AM PDT by citizen (America is at an awkward stage...Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]


Full speed ahead!
Help End FReepathons by Donating Monthly!
Generous FReeper Sponsors are donating $10 for every New Monthly Donor!
Please Sign Up to Donate Monthly!

23 posted on 08/12/2012 11:44:29 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: TurboZamboni

>>and make this mandatory for gubmint employees to replace their current pensions.<<

Oh, absolutely! All publicly-financed defined benefit plans should be prohibited by law. Get the government out of the investment business completely.


24 posted on 08/12/2012 11:50:26 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: TurboZamboni

I stopped reading at “after Social Security drains its trust funds”.

There is no trust fund. It is a fiction. The so called “SS trust fund” is literally a file cabinet in WV (thank you Senator Byrd!) filled with IOUs that aren’t worth spit.

http://madashelland.com/?p=1199


25 posted on 08/12/2012 12:03:37 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FreedomPoster

I’m with you. As soon as I read the suggestion that there was something in a trust fund somewhere that hadn’t already been spent, I knew the rest was probably bogus as well!!!


26 posted on 08/12/2012 12:16:40 PM PDT by LTC.Ret (You'd think I would know better than to volunteer!!! www.sendmetocongress.us)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: TurboZamboni

>>and make this mandatory for gubmint employees to replace their current pensions.<<

Oh, absolutely! All publicly-financed defined benefit plans should be prohibited by law. Get the government out of the investment business completely.


27 posted on 08/12/2012 1:15:33 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: GOPJ

Here in Arizona they give children health insurance if mom and or dad are unemployed or on welfare or any other reason they use.

The biggest problem is mom/dad get health insurance as well.
Its become a permanent part of life for many. Food stamps, healthcare, side jobs, welfare and SS D.

Try to tell them it may end or hit them hard and tell them they dont deserve it and watch the self righteous fireworks


28 posted on 08/12/2012 1:16:12 PM PDT by winodog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: FreedomPoster
There is no trust fund. It is a fiction. The so called “SS trust fund” is literally a file cabinet in WV (thank you Senator Byrd!) filled with IOUs that aren’t worth spit.
There is a Trust Fund; it’s invested in “safe government bonds.” So when the Treasury writes the social security check, it bills the Social Security Trust Fund - and that fund produces a bond which is a valid obligation of the Treasury itself. So instead of taking the money out of the right pocket, Treasury takes it out of the left pocket - but it still comes out of the Treasury either way, same difference.
The SSTF exists, but it is nothing more than a record of money the government doesn’t have.

A lot like “altitude above you, runway behind you, or fuel used” - the "three most useless things" to an aviator.


29 posted on 08/12/2012 7:18:35 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-29 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson