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To: Jubal Harshaw
We got TSA because, as it turned out, terrorists got on airplanes. The one that hit the Pentagon actually turned North right over my house.

Subsequently there's been a lot less of that ~

I think the airlines got the news though ~ and given a chance would have imposed heavier security than the government does.

19 posted on 08/13/2012 9:11:32 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Thanks for your response. Sure, the airlines likely would have altered their security procedures after 9/11. Let’s not forget, of course, that it government-imposed “security” rules, such as the forbidding of effective weapons on aircraft, and the mindset engendered by government “security” that made 9/11 possible in the first place.

Thing is, the airlines, left to their own devices, would likely have promulgated effective security that did not harass the passengers. The TSA harasses passengers, claiming to look for devices that do not exist (explosives that are small enough to be secreted on the person, and yet powerful enough to take down an aircraft). Meanwhile, the TSA generally does not screen freight, which actually could contain enough explosives to take down an aircraft. The airlines, as a group, would have found the right way to handle security, whatever that right way is, because (1) the continued existence of each airline would depend on finding that right way and (2) each airline might experiment with a slightly different process to maintain security, thus allowing rapid identification of the procedure that worked the best.

Meanwhile, the airlines have never caused such potential disasters as surreptitiously damaging the sensors on 9 commercial airlines by using the pitot tubes like monkey bars:

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/4113058/

By the way, as evidence that the explosives the TSA claims they are seeking — explosives so small as to be hidden on the person, between women’s genital labia, etc — cannot take down an aircraft from inside the fuselage, consider Aloha Airlines flight 243 in April 1988:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aloha_Airlines_Flight_243

That’s a case in which an old, fatigued aircraft, at a moderate altitude, over deep water, piloted by an inexperienced Captain, lost half the fuselage from the cockpit to the wings. A flight attendant fell out of the gaping hole, but the aircraft, the rest of the crew, and all the passengers, landed safely. Think you can make an explosive device that can do more damage than removing such a large chunk of the fuselage and still have that device be small enough to be hidden on your person? If not, then body-secretable explosives are not the threat the TSA claims.


20 posted on 08/13/2012 9:42:36 AM PDT by Jubal Harshaw
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To: muawiyah

Last week there was a story about a woman with her two small children in the backseat of her car was stopped by local cops. Since she was obviously a threat (not) she was strip-search along side her car and in full view of passing traffic.

A female cop was called in to do the search and removed a tampon from the suspect.

How much money would you have to be paid to remove a tampon? I’m a woman and there’s no way!!!!

She (the driver) is suing the cops personally and the city. I hope she wins a bundle. This search is so outrageous that one wonders if the female cop doesn’t have a few mental problems.
I wonder the same about TSA workers.


21 posted on 08/13/2012 11:54:28 AM PDT by jayrunner
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