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2,362 Millionaires Got Unemployment Benefits
CNS News ^ | August 13, 2012 | Matt Cover

Posted on 08/13/2012 4:07:44 PM PDT by Sopater

There were 2,362 people who earned a million dollars or more in taxable income in 2009 and who also received federal unemployment benefits that year, according to a report by the Congressional Research Service. In fact, these millionaires collectively raked in more than $20 million in unemployment benefits.

The Congressional Research Service report--Receipt of Unemployment Insurance by Higher-Income Unemployed Workers (“Millionaires”)--was published on Aug. 2 and was based on the most recent data available from the Internal Revenue Service.

“Among tax filers with AGI [Adjusted Gross Income] of $1 million or more, 2,840 reported receipt of unemployment benefit income in 2008 and 2,362 tax filers reported receipt of unemployment benefit income in 2009,” the CRS reported.

The CRS reported that millionaires received $20.8 million in federal unemployment benefits in 2009, up from $18.6 million in 2008. That averages out to $8,806 in unemployment benefits per millionaire.

Unemployment insurance is a joint federal-state program and is funded by a payroll tax assessed against all workers. In the four years preceding 2012, according to the Tax Foundation, the unemployment insurance system was in the red. "Between 2008 and 2011, $174 billion was paid in unemployment taxes while $450 billion was paid out in benefits, a gap of $276 billion," the Tax Foundation said.

Department of Labor regulations require that unemployment benefits must be paid to all unemployed workers regardless of their income.

"This requirement is based upon a 1964 U.S. Department of Laobr (DOL) decision that precludes states from means-testing to determine UC [unemployment compensation] eligibility," the CRS said in its report.

"Under this interpretation, federal law requires entitlement compensation to be determined from facts or causes related to the individuals state of unemployment," said CRS. "Thus, the DOL requires that states pay compensation for unemployment to all eligible beneficiaries regardless of their income level because individual or household income would not be considered to impact the fact or cause of unemployment."

In addition to the 2,362 people with adjusted gross incomes of $1 million or more who got unemployment benefits in 2009, there were also 8,335 people with incomes between $500,000 and $1 million who received benefits and 120,227 with incomes between $200,000 and $500,000 who received benefits.

On July 17, House Minority Leader Steny Hoyer said that unemployment benefits along with food stamps were the two most stimulative things the government could do for the economy.

"If you talk to economists, they will tell you there are two things that are the most stimulative that you can do--one’s unemployment insurance, the other’s food stamps, okay?” said Hoyer.

“Why is that?” Hoyer said. “Because those folks who receive those resources must spend them. And they’ll spend them almost upon receipt. Most economists with whom I talk believe that those with significant discretionary income, that that’s not the case.”


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: socialprograms; taxes; unemployment
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Just one of the many problems with our gov't handing out money to everyone who asks.
1 posted on 08/13/2012 4:07:58 PM PDT by Sopater
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To: Sopater

A million dollars isn’t all that much but still, they shouldn’t be getting unemployment.

Remember after Katrina, the department of labor said that anyone in New Orleans who was old enough to work could apply for unemployment even if they couldn’t prove that they had ever worked.


2 posted on 08/13/2012 4:13:31 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Sopater

I wonder if NFL coaches and players file for unemployment when they get fired.


3 posted on 08/13/2012 4:18:33 PM PDT by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: Sopater

If uninsurance worked the way it’s supposed to — as insurance — then there would be no problem with this. Doesn’t matter what you make, if you pay into the system and lose your job, you get the benefits (e.g., insurance payout).

But, with all of the extensions/etc, uninsurance has become little more than another form of welfare, so there should be some level of means-testing (certainly enough to weed out high earners like this).


4 posted on 08/13/2012 4:20:40 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Sopater

This points out that unemployment is an insurance program, not a social welfare program. If you pay in, you get money out. Just like Social Security. Whether it should be that way or not is another question. Perhaps all these programs should be means tested. But as everyone points out, that can cause issues too. Why should you not get money out of the program you paid into just because you are frugal and don’t waste your money?


5 posted on 08/13/2012 4:20:51 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Sopater

If they means test this, they will means test social security and medi-care.

When you don’t means test, of course this happens; especially in the era of Obama. So this article is a thinly veiled promotion for means testing.


6 posted on 08/13/2012 4:24:37 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: forgotten man
I wonder if NFL coaches and players file for unemployment when they get fired.

I'm pretty sure the answer is yes for players. One of my friends has a son who is a marginal NFL player, (tight end/h-back/special teams blocker) has been on 6 different teams in 5 years. I believe he's collected unemployment in 4 different states.

7 posted on 08/13/2012 4:30:14 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: cripplecreek

a million in net worth isn’t that much... earning a million is a year is a lot.


8 posted on 08/13/2012 4:32:42 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Exactly right. I got unemployment beneftis for 78 weeks and technically can reapply for 10-13 more weeks.


9 posted on 08/13/2012 4:33:32 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are useless and useful idiots.)
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To: Sopater

Were any of them non-Union?


10 posted on 08/13/2012 4:35:18 PM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
Perhaps all these programs should be means tested.

Absolutely NOT! If you are going to force me or my employer to buy unemployment insurance, then I am damned well going to collect should I become unemployed.

If you force me to pay in, and then means-test me out of collecting, then you are STEALING from me.

Better to allow people to opt out.

11 posted on 08/13/2012 4:47:59 PM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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To: Sopater

“”Just one of the many problems with our gov’t handing out money to everyone who asks. “””

Employers, like me, are forced to pay into the fund. We must pay a percentage of wages paid out. If a guy made a million bucks or a hundred bucks, I still have to pay in on them.

They are entitled to the insurance money no matter how much they earned. I don’t see a problem with a millionaire collecting since I had to foot the bill anyway.


12 posted on 08/13/2012 4:48:24 PM PDT by shelterguy
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To: Sopater

The Congressional Research Service report—Receipt of Unemployment Insurance by Higher-Income Unemployed Workers (“Millionaires”)—was published on Aug. 2 and was based on the most recent data available from the Internal Revenue Service.


As far as I know the IRS has no information on networth. There must be a lot of assumptions in this report.


13 posted on 08/13/2012 4:48:24 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.))
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To: Sopater

Things about these (evil) millionaires:

- They have paid a disproportionately high share of income taxes for many years

- They paid more in taxes than most people make, even if you count the unemployment benefits received as a tax credit

- They met all the qualifications to receive these benefits

Presumably these folks are smarter than average - Would you expect them to just donate these funds back to the treasury? Really?


14 posted on 08/13/2012 4:49:41 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Sopater

And the point is...?

They paid into the system - or more accurately their employers paid into the system by virtue of the work that these people had been doing - so they should be entitled to the benefit.

That’s how it was designed by our government so it must be the way it was intended.

Also, they paid a lot of money into the general treasury based on their $ million incomes. We should be thankful for that.

Too bad they lost their jobs and that tax revenue went to zero, but that’s how it goes in a tough economy. With higher unemployment you get lower tax revenue. Maybe our current government can do something to encourage more high paying jobs so we can get that revenue back up?


15 posted on 08/13/2012 5:03:43 PM PDT by AC86UT89 (America will endure until its government discovers that it can bribe the public with its own money.)
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To: Sopater

If they paid it in, they have a right to get some back. Period! Provided they meet the qualifications.


16 posted on 08/13/2012 5:04:19 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Sopater

You SHOULD get unemployment insurance, regardless how “rich” you are. The qualification is you lose your job, not if you are poor. Poor people who never worked a day in their life should not get insurance... but rich people who have paid handsomely into the system should definitely get it back... they put money into it when they could.

This is similar to the social security. If you have made good decisions in your lifetime (and come out ahead with millions in the bank), why shouldn’t you get the money back that you have put in? Why should poor fools who made bad (economic) decisions all their lives get a free handout? If anything, cut social security from the poor fools and give to the rich... at least the rich will invest back, rather the poor will waste in lottery/gambling/drugs/cigs/combination.

This is an anti-rich story to make you feel rage towards those who have become rich.


17 posted on 08/13/2012 5:15:41 PM PDT by sagar
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To: Sopater

Unemployment is money that is paid to both the state & the Feds by the EMPLOYER.

That money is paid regardless of the total gross earnings on each employee up to a threshhold.

When a company lays off people, it is the business of the company.

It isn’t the fault of the employee that they get laid off due to cutbacks.

They are entitled to their unemployment, just the same as the lowest paid janitor.

This is another chop at people who have worked hard and suceeded.


18 posted on 08/13/2012 5:15:59 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
I don't agree.

The payments employers made were based on a formula the Government dreamed up and demanded they pay before TSHTF.
The Feds unilaterally decided to force the States to borrow from the Feds to pay for a new Federal largesse of additional weeks and months of “benefits” to the unemployed.
The State governments also thought providing “free money” was a grand idea!

Now guess who actually gets to pay for the “State” debt to the “Feds” for the humanitarian largesse?

That would be the private employers.

And guess who is not hiring?

19 posted on 08/13/2012 5:18:29 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: nascarnation

He paid into the system when he was working. He can draw on it when he becomes unemployed. That’s how it works. OK, so if you hit lotto or your rich uncle dies, etc. maybe you shouldn’t file a claim. Perhaps many people did not, I don’t know.

But it’s pretty amazing how the entire dem/left program seems to be based on taking away money from those who have earned it and giving it to those who have not.

And they are d*mn proud of it, too.


20 posted on 08/13/2012 5:33:30 PM PDT by jocon307
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