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To: RitaOK
Jedi, I respect your head a lot, but I stop breathing for a moment when I hear FReepers say, “ we can hold Myth’s feet to the fire once we get him elected. “ How, pray tell, do we get power to do that when we have just given him all of it, over us, along with our vote?

We certainly can't guarantee we'll win every battle. But even with Reagan, we didn't win every battle, not on Sandra Day O'Connor or the 1986 amnesty. But we do know that public opposition can sink the plans of a president, just as liberal opposition sunk Bush's Social Security reform. So we can work through our representatives to make sure that they don't support legislation that's too liberal. Plus Romney will have to worry about reeelection and funding that campaign. There could even be the threat of a primary challenge.

The other point is that to make gains for our movement, we need to go far beyond just electing specific individuals to office. The Tea Party really needs to grow into a movement that will engage the public and build support for specific ideas, plans, legislation, constitutional amendments, etc. Let's say, for school voucher programs or the federal marriage amendment. Some of the big changes that we need done will never happen based solely on the whim of a candidate or a party. We need to do more things to move the bar of public opinion to our side on specific issues so that candidates will have no choice but to do what we want or get voted out. I do know that Obama in his second term would not let any such threats stand in his way.

I spoke out about the long-term danger of damaging the Republican brand even if Romney wins during the primary. There are many risks that come with a Romney presidency. I just can't help but look over to the greater of two evils, at someone who will enshrine Obamacare in the American way of life and someone who through backdoor amnesty will try to create a permanent majority voting bloc for his party. I'd rather take my chances with Romney.

Nevertheless it's valuable to have people in the conservative grass roots opposing Romney to remind him of the pressure that comes from that side. It's a big tent and from Romney's perspective those are the "bad cops" that remind him how bad it could get if he does anything to shift more conservatives away from him.

129 posted on 08/14/2012 5:20:57 PM PDT by JediJones (Too Hot for GOP TV: Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin, Allen West and Donald Trump)
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To: JediJones

“So we can work through our representatives to make sure that they don’t support legislation that’s too liberal.”

Will not work. Partly Loyalty to Romney will trump your gripes 99% of the time.


134 posted on 08/14/2012 5:33:54 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: JediJones

Thank you so much for your reply.

“Nevertheless it’s valuable to have people in the conservative grass roots opposing Romney to remind him of the pressure that comes from that side. “

I appreciate that statement very much, because I agree that there needs to be seen some small degree of push back against these RINO socialists who have given the conservative wing of the once conservative party a hard slap to the face, telling us to take a hike loud and clear, and so let their be a contingent of deadly serious Christians first, party members and Americans second and not all of us play all-fall-down, all the time, at the same time, to be seen doing their will, showing up every time to give them their candidates, who are progressively worse with each election because we comply, cooperate and crater.

Thanks. Rita


209 posted on 08/14/2012 7:41:44 PM PDT by RitaOK (NO ROMNEY, NO COMPROMISE. NO WAY. NO HOW. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.)
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