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Police: Woodburn priest chased boy down street after abuse (OR)
The Oregonian ^ | 08/14/2012 | Oregonian

Posted on 08/15/2012 7:03:12 AM PDT by aimhigh

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To: aimhigh
Who wants to bet Rev. Angel Armando Perez of St. Luke Catholic Church FAVORS same sex marriage.

I'll also bet he his favorite sermons are about 'forgiving sinners' and 'not judging'... as if all of Christianity was nothing more than an organization set up to enable evil...

21 posted on 08/15/2012 8:01:18 AM PDT by GOPJ (Freeper Neveronmywatch's convinced: Put a compass in the hands of a liberal it'll point south.)
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To: Neoliberalnot
Let's not forget, satan attacks the church from within. This is his plan to not only tear down the church, but to turn people away from the church who might be seeking.

Homosexuals in every denomination are used by the father of lies to warp and pervert what belongs to God and satan’s primary goal is to kill, steal and destroy.

22 posted on 08/15/2012 8:06:34 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: wideawake

Where does “keeping it real” and “living into my true sexuality” hide in that theology?


23 posted on 08/15/2012 8:07:15 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: AppyPappy
Where does “keeping it real” and “living into my true sexuality” hide in that theology?

Nowhere. Hence the decision of many to reject that theology outright, because it conflicts with their appetites.

24 posted on 08/15/2012 8:21:32 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Neoliberalnot
Homosexuals who apply for such positions don’t declare their sexual orientation.
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The heck they don't. Most do declare their sexual orientation. I have a brother in law that's a Friar (monk).
He had been gay his whole life, before he chose this celibate life.
They all have to go through a long major interview process where they get into everything including your sexual orientation.

A lot of the Friars are also Priests. In fact, he is still considering becoming a priest too. He said that living a gay lifestyle before does not automatically disqualify him or anyone else from becoming a Friar or a Priest.

25 posted on 08/15/2012 8:23:44 AM PDT by kara37
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To: Neoliberalnot

Yah, but there seems to be an age old culture of homosexuality and sexual license among Catholic priests that has traditionally enjoyed protection from investigation from top levels of the bureaucracy.

When I was a student at St. Mary’s College in the 60’s, I recall a series of incidents in which a Christian Brother hit on me hard and even stalked me after I had transferred to UC Berkeley. He had been doing this to other students for years and at one point extolled the virtues of becoming a “Brother’s Boy”.

I later learned from a friend that he had also been the object of this Brother’s unwanted attention. Brother Robert of Mary, Christian Brother educator, was a chronic and unrepentant homosexual recruiter and an enabler and caused me to lose all respect for the clergy.


26 posted on 08/15/2012 8:46:14 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Chaucer was mocking gassy, buggering friars in the 14th century.


27 posted on 08/15/2012 9:02:37 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: DJlaysitup
Should have used "Priest Off": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpuYoK6wv_Y

Now THAT's funny!

28 posted on 08/15/2012 9:19:03 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Chaucer was mocking gassy, buggering friars in the 14th century.


From The Canterbury Tales: The Summoner's Tale

480......"Ah," thought the friar, "this shall go with me!"
And down he thrust his hand right to the cleft,
In hope that he should find there some good gift.
And when the sick man felt the friar here
Groping about his hole and all his rear,

485......Into his hand he let the friar a fart. There is no stallion drawing loaded cart
That might have let a fart of such a sound.
The friar leaped up as with wild lion's bound:
"Ah, treacherous churl," he cried, "by God's own bones,

490......I'll see that he who scorns me thus atones;
You'll suffer for this fart- I'll find a way!"

29 posted on 08/15/2012 9:26:54 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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To: aimhigh

It’s not like they announce to the world that they like little boys. Sick bastards. The church needs to get rid of them, put them out on the street.


30 posted on 08/15/2012 9:30:29 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: aimhigh

Mr. Curths is a hero.

I would have called the police though. That priest tried to turn the family against the boy in the name of Christian “forgiveness” is why I would bring the police in immediately.

Church officials and offenders have twisted this aspect of Christ’s teaching to avoid paying for their perversion and crimes against innocent boys. They need to be stopped and punished.


31 posted on 08/15/2012 11:04:01 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Impy

The boy scouts do not permit homos access to boys for a reason. The Catholic church must reject homos from the priesthood if they want the homo sex abuse of boys to stop.

When an applicant admits he’s homo, he’s telling them he’s got a serious sexual disorder. Experience shows that sexual disorder acts out in the authority of the priesthood against other males. Further, it is a faith killer.


32 posted on 08/15/2012 11:19:08 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Albion Wilde
I've always rather more enjoyed Chaucer in the original Middle English.

A! thoghte this frere, that shal go with me!
And doun his hand he launcheth to the clifte,
In hope for to fynde there a yifte.
And whan this sike man felte this frere
Aboute his tuwel grope there and heere,
Amydde his hand he leet the frere a fart,
Ther nys no capul, drawynge in a cart,
That myghte have lete a fart of swich a soun.
The frere up stirte as dooth a wood leoun, --
A! false cherl, quod he, for goddes bones!
This hastow for despit doon for the nones.
Thou shalt abye this fart, if that I may!

33 posted on 08/15/2012 11:33:32 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: aimhigh
The loudest voices screaming in outrage that the Catholic Church "allows" homosexual pedophiles in leadership positions, express equal outrage because the Boy Scouts of America won't.
34 posted on 08/15/2012 1:07:53 PM PDT by Ignatz (Winner of a prestigious 1960 Y-chromosome award!)
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To: oldbrowser
Even if the percentage of abusers is the same as the general population, the problem appears to be endemic to the priesthood.

You have weird logic.

If the percentage is the same in a subset and in the general population, then the problem is also endemic in the general population.

35 posted on 08/15/2012 1:11:43 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Valpal1
If the percentage is the same in a subset and in the general population, then the problem is also endemic in the general population.

My point exactly.

36 posted on 08/15/2012 1:44:40 PM PDT by oldbrowser (As long as Obama's records are sealed, any discussion of Romney's past is off limits.)
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To: treetopsandroofs

I don’t know how, but I suppose if you asked their friends and family prior to them being admitted, someone might spill the beans


37 posted on 08/15/2012 5:18:24 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SaraJohnson

He has a serious sin problem and should be automatically disqualified


38 posted on 08/15/2012 5:24:10 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

That’s a good point, especially with priesthood.

What’s wrong with a THOROUGH background check on everyone who makes it past the first interview?


39 posted on 08/15/2012 5:32:04 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Infiltrate??? This has been going on for many many years, long before a conscientious effort to infiltrate by the homosexuals.


40 posted on 08/16/2012 3:04:33 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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