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DHS Buys in Bulk to Save You Money (Ammunition)
Office of Congressman Lynn Westmoreland (R) GA-3rd District ^ | Kevin Doran

Posted on 08/15/2012 7:53:45 AM PDT by Strategerist

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To: ArrogantBustard
they should be buying FMJ like sane folks do

You do realize that you area talking about the government procurement process...right? There is NOTHING sane about it; bad intentions, or not.

21 posted on 08/15/2012 8:30:24 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: ArrogantBustard
That's BS. If it's really practice ammo, they should be buying FMJ like sane folks do.

Like Hell!

Sane people practice with what they use.

You are mistaking "sane" for "cheap."

22 posted on 08/15/2012 8:31:23 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Strategerist

450,000,000 rounds is yesterday’s news. That number has now been upped dramatically and includes much more than 40 S&W. But, the original order (450,000,000) was for JHP’s, those are not for range. If they are, someone at DHS needs to have their neck rung as they’re throwing money out the window. FMJ’s or lead (outdoor ranges) would be much cheaper.

So much for the saving taxpayer’s money argument.


23 posted on 08/15/2012 8:33:21 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: Strategerist; mnehring; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ..

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you need to threaten to report me to the Admin if I don’t add you to the list...

24 posted on 08/15/2012 8:38:10 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1304 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: Ingtar

Because there are NOAA Law Enforcement agents.


25 posted on 08/15/2012 8:43:51 AM PDT by George189
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To: Strategerist

Bingo.


26 posted on 08/15/2012 8:45:32 AM PDT by George189
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...all the agencies under their umbrella, including state and local police forces...

It was so kind of Mr. Westmoreland to confirm in writing certain suspicions that both state and local police forces had in fact become de facto organs of the Federal government despite previous claims to the contrary having been given to the public.

27 posted on 08/15/2012 9:00:46 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: lacrew
“In fact, there are 65,000 – 70,000 law enforcement personnel at DHS” Why don’t I believe that all of these carry a weapon, which would use 40 caliber.

I don't believe all of these fall under "law enforcement" excluding all in office and clerical personnel.

28 posted on 08/15/2012 9:03:47 AM PDT by bgill
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To: concerned about politics

“In June the Secret Service was shopping for “40,000 rounds with two options for 20,000 rounds” of Winchester .300 Magnums. Awarded to an outfit in Rapid City June 30, if we’re reading it and all to be delivered before year end.)”

.300 WinMag ammo is used by government for sniper operations. It is primarily used by AgencyPerson snipers such as the infamous Lon Horiuchi, who shot Weaver in the back when Weaver was seeking cover and who shot and killed Weavers wife and child.

This ammo is for sniper use inside the USA by government snipers like Lon Horiuchi, and WILL BE USED AGAINST US.


29 posted on 08/15/2012 9:10:32 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: bereanway; Strategerist; papertyger; Turbo Pig; ArrogantBustard; ctdonath2; Georgia Girl 2; ...
So now we have every agency of Gubmit buying amo.

Social Security Administration To Purchase 174 Thousand Rounds Of Hollow Point Bullets

Obama Civilian Security

This probably deserves it's own thread but pass it far and wide.

And oh, just keep it between us conspiracy theorists, k?

30 posted on 08/15/2012 9:19:55 AM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: Strategerist

Well, then... I feel better already. /s


31 posted on 08/15/2012 9:20:15 AM PDT by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: Travis McGee

Forgot to ping on above.


32 posted on 08/15/2012 9:30:11 AM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: GregNH; All

Looks to me like its a coordinated inter-agency effort to disrupt the national ammo market rather than to over-arm itself against the population. Who in the federal government needs this many bullets, even if they wanted to shoot down Americans in the tens of thousands. And where are they going to store it all?


33 posted on 08/15/2012 9:33:08 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler
Who in the federal government needs this many bullets

You are trying to use rational thought for an irrational act.

We are dealing with leftist Marxist. They do not have tactical thoughts. As far as disrupting the amo market, forget it. We have bought more than enough amo to take out the Chinese and Indian armies combined.

34 posted on 08/15/2012 9:43:43 AM PDT by GregNH (If you are unable to fight, please find a good place to hide.)
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To: GregNH
Perhaps, but what I'm saying is that this might be a typical Obama back-door gun-control effort by removing the ammunition from the shelves by buying it all up with taxpayer money.

Remember a few years ago at the height of the war in Iraq when none of us could buy ammo in certain popular calibers because the military was buying it all up for use by the troops?

35 posted on 08/15/2012 9:53:03 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: papertyger; ctdonath2

It must be nice to have unlimited resources.

I don’t. Fedzilla doesn’t either, and they need to quit pretending otherwise.


36 posted on 08/15/2012 10:17:19 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: null and void

it is getting weirder and weirder


37 posted on 08/15/2012 10:22:38 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: GregNH

OK, now I’m getting concerned.
DHS, a billion rounds? startling, but explanation is tepidly satisfying.
NOAA, any amount? odd, but explanation is tepidly satisfying.
Secret Service? well yeah. It’s their job.
Capital Police? likewise. It’s their job.
EPA? um, that’s a lot of nifty detail for what sounds like one purchase.
Social Security? ok, but...

...wait a minute. That’s a lot of gov’t agencies buying a lot of ammo all at the same time. Either we’re just all waking up to a common unreported occurrence, or...well...


38 posted on 08/15/2012 10:57:44 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Timber Rattler

Interesting theory, until we note that it’s for little more than .40 HP and .300 Win Mag, and those of very precise descriptions.

If they’re trying to clear the shelves they’re not buying enough quantity of enough range of calibers. To clear the shelves to deny public access, they’d have to submit an order for “everything you’ve got - 9mm, .45, .38, .308, .223, HP, FMJ, boattail, ... EVERYTHING.” It’s also too late: we’ve already stocked up.


39 posted on 08/15/2012 11:02:40 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: ctdonath2
To clear the shelves to deny public access, they’d have to submit an order for “everything you’ve got - 9mm, .45, .38, .308, .223, HP, FMJ, boattail, ... EVERYTHING.”

I guess you missed this thread then...DHS Orders 750 Million More Rounds Of Ammo...my reply #71.

Watch the video. .223, shotgun, .45, .38, 30-06...a huge list.
You have to watch the video to see it all laid out.
Or view the pdf...HSFLGL-12-B-00003-000001.pdf

I would enjoy hearing what you've got to say afterwards.

40 posted on 08/15/2012 1:41:24 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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