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To: Tallguy

Well, personally I am dubious of the 110% turnout numbers, but Philly is a bastion.. if you got rid of Philly, PA would be as Red as any southern state.

There are 3 areas of Pa that are Blue.. PHILLY REGION, Harrisburg and Pittsburgh.. however Pittsburgh REGION itself has been trending more and more red, but Allegheny County/Pittsburg itself is still blue overall.. its not what it once was.

Philly is the BEAST.. To win PA you have to survive Philly, you don’t have to win it, that’s a virtually impossible task, but you can’t come out of Philly down insanely.

The Voter ID law was upheld and I am sure it will help the situation. However I honestly think with or without it PA is competitive, PA is not a liberal state.. it really isn’t. Dems here are primarly working class whites, who vote D out of generational union ties, they have no stomach for leftist claptrap like gay marriage or assaults on the church or any of the other leftist nonsense this guys been selling. They don’t believe “someone else built that” they work hard.. they aren’t leftist ideologues.

Obama has spit in their faces for 4 years, I really don’t think Obama can win PA.. If Romney comes and fights for it, I think its his. BEST and I do mean BEST Obama can hope for from PA is to spend a whole lot of time and money here, and maybe get a squeaker.. that’s it.


34 posted on 08/16/2012 8:43:01 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
However I honestly think with or without it PA is competitive, PA is not a liberal state.. it really isn’t. Dems here are primarly working class whites, who vote D out of generational union ties, they have no stomach for leftist claptrap like gay marriage or assaults on the church or any of the other leftist nonsense this guys been selling. They don’t believe “someone else built that” they work hard.. they aren’t leftist ideologues.

The difference in PA could be the Catholic Bishops. If they can get their socialist / commie priests (not all are) under control, the people want to do what's right.

38 posted on 08/16/2012 9:36:50 AM PDT by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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