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1 posted on 08/17/2012 7:08:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I hang out at an Italian social club in an overwhelming Democrat City. A city employee did a Straw Poll of us. 30-6 Romney. Another told me last night not to tell anybody, but he too is voting for Romney.


2 posted on 08/17/2012 7:15:25 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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If that’s true then the poll margins should be static.


3 posted on 08/17/2012 7:19:28 AM PDT by AU72
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There are NO INDEPENDENTS, nor are there MODERATES half way in between.

People hold many affiliations that are far stronger than political party, and those affiliations are the prime determinants for which way you will vote, or if you will vote at all.

I don't even think there's a 2% or 3% swing ~ it's more like a get out the vote problem than anything, and time after time political party technicians have told us 'we got out the vote' as the first thing out of their mouths.

There's a reason why we have two major parties that split the electorate (people who vote) rather evenly. There are only rarely reasons for people switching from one party to the other and when that happens we all know it.

What we have in this race is a very real difficulty ~ both parties have bad candidates. Both candidates are the sort of folks who discredit the utility of focusing on getting out the vote ~ one of them thinks you just buy off the top guys and everything will be OK. The other guy thinks he doesn't need troops on the ground ~ so he dismisses them as useless Social Conservatives.

I"m looking at a possible drop in the number of people voting ~ not just a drop in the percentage of the eligible population, but an actual drop from the last couple of elections. These two are simply not popular enough, nor do they care enough, to get out the vote and win.

It's really a toss-up this election. Congress should prepare for an early impeachment no matter who wins.

4 posted on 08/17/2012 7:20:42 AM PDT by muawiyah
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I saw some pundit says it really isn’t down to swing states but just voters in a handful of counties across those states. I suppose this isn’t all that surprising but it is disturbing.


8 posted on 08/17/2012 9:11:33 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 82 days away.)
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I’m conservative and don’t consider Romney to be conservative. So, I am not voting for him anymore than I would Obama.

However, I think Romney was VERY shrewd to chose Ryan as his running mate. Romney is not trusted by the conservative base of the GOP, and he was losing them due to apathy with him being the candidate. By picking Ryan, he shored up a great deal of the base...because Ryan is indeed conservative and it excites most of the base to be for the Romney/Ryan ticket than merely against Obama/Biden.

From what I have witnessed here on FR, his strategy is working. The same way picking Palin helped McCain with the base. This pick of Ryan may well be the thing that gets Romney elected.

Now, that being said, and giving credit to a shrewd choice. Personally, I’m still not buying into voting for Romney. The moment he is elected he was lock Ryan into a closet somewhere to keep him quiet. Then Romney will go back to being the liberal he is at heart. However, in the mean time he will do damage to the brand of “conservatism” even though he is not really conservative. The crap he will pull as POTUS will set back conservatism for a long time. It will cost us the loss of seats in congress gained in 2010 and this fall, and then cause us to lose the office of POTUS to Hillary in 2016. IF folks think Obama is evil (which he is) try an Obama that is actually intelligent. That is Hillary - Obama with brains. That is the ultimate legacy a Romney administration will deliver us. A destruction of the “conservative” brand and Hillary as POTUS in 2016....more virulent than Obama - because she is actually smart plus an unrepentant liberal (more so than her hubby was).


9 posted on 08/17/2012 9:50:41 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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I’m hearing from former obama voters that many are NOT voting for obama again and others that just aren’t going to vote at all.
They’re “fed up with the whole thing,” whatever that means.

The left is demoralized over trying to prop up the One. Owebama is this election’s McCain!


10 posted on 08/17/2012 9:56:21 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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