Posted on 08/17/2012 11:21:22 AM PDT by fishtank
And evolutionists oppose not just the written, revealed word of God but also the Creator who gave it to us.
You cannot possibly claim God to be God and call Him a liar.
It boggles the mind that any evolutionist who claims to be a rational and objective human being would be willing to worship a God who lies to them. How rational is THAT?
Adam was created as a full grown man.
On the next day, a creationist would correctly state that Adam was one day old.
The evolutionist would mock the creationist and appeal to the evidence of Adam’s age,.... and be quite wrong. The creationist would be the one who is correct.
What we observe is what we observe but unless we know ALL the facts, there’s simply no way of making accurate determinations about what we are analyzing.
That means instead of a rock formation being a billion years old, it’s 995 million years old.
What it means is that science is not reliable. Either it cannot be trusted because it is not accurate, it is being constantly *revised* as new data comes in.
Or the decay rates actually are changing thus the premise on which science is built cannot be trusted and all the conclusions built on that are wrong.
Evolutionists who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
Someone’s credibility just took a hit.
OUCH!!!
Surely the statement:
“Creationists oppose not just evolution, but also geology, physics, paleontology, astronomy and any other branch of science that refuses to stick with their useless precepts.”
is right up there with, ‘If you’re so smart how come you aren’t rich’ but without the humor or irony.
So the Pope and every other Christian who accepts evolution geology and astronomy rejects the word of God and calls him a liar?
What a myopic insular and hateful view. It must make you feel so smugly good about yourself to condemn all thinking people to hell with your ignorant zeal.
What's evolution geology? A new branch of science?
Or did the great intellectual forget his commas?
It's also disingenuous to suddenly drag other sciences into it. The discussion is about evolution. Being a geologist or astronomer does not by default demand acceptance of evolution.
Anyone's choice is to either believe God and what He put in the Bible, or not, no matter what their title or position. Either the Bible is true or not. If you choose to sit in judgement on it and determine with your limited human understanding, that it is wrong, you are stating that what is in there is not true. You are in effect, calling God a liar. Doesn't matter who it is and what their title is.
As far as the pope's position on evolution, I do believe that that has been addressed to you enough in the past and you have chosen to reject it. It any case, it is irrelevant to me what he chooses to believe on the subject so there's no need to bring it up to me again.
It must make you feel so smugly good about yourself to condemn all thinking people to hell with your ignorant zeal.
Where did I do that? Please post the links to the appropriate comments.
Check the title of the thread. It is about physics not evolution. How disingenuous of you to pretend that the only science under discussion is evolution.
Amusing that you are so bereft of intelligence that you cannot make an argument against science without making it about atheism or trying to make it about me. I feel sorry for you. I will pray for you.
Liberalism is the political expression of the religion of humanism, which indeed is the opposing “truth claim” to God’s truth.
Yes, with enough evolution, people will just become their own Gods. And sometimes they don’t even need a few billion years! ;)
You didn’t need to project and be sleepy about it. Pretty much everyone on FR knows you’re a sleepy liberal dreamer. ;)
Precisely. And notice the endless projections. Liberals pretend to know everything there is to know about geology through circular reasoning like “fossils are this old because of the old rocks they were found in, rocks are that old because of the old fossils found in them”.
YOU were the one who dragged the other sciences into it with your appeal to authority.
Just a degree with a few letters after their name.
I hope you’re feeling better.
WRT to circular dating methods, I always think of the movie “Finding Nemo” where the stingray teacher is singing a song to the “kids”...
the words for the “daters” would go something like this:
“oooooooh, the rocks date the fossils
and the fossils date the rocks,
and we don’t really know if they’re
older than your socks!”
It’s that fossilized uranium.
Or, just an Evo's fossilized CRANIUM
Paradoxically, if you could find that there wouldn't be any.
[[Creationists oppose not just evolution, but also geology, physics, paleontology]]
Actually Creationists and ID’ists Don’t ‘oppose’ any of these fields as these fields have yielded more than enough evidence to show that evolution is a lie! All the evidences that show evolution a lie is simply waved away by evolutionists as though it weren’t important or didn’t refute their claims- We also support mathematics whichg also show beyond a reasonable doubt that evolution is scientifically impossible and we also support biology and microbiology which show how intricately and intelligently designed everythign really is. And we also support scientific laws such as the second law of thermodynamics which show that it is impossible for evolution to have occured, and we also support thje study of chemicals andm inerals and genetics etc which show that in the beginning man had biologically pure elements- somethign which nature is incapable of producing with nothign but dirty elements to work with- No- Contrary to the assinine claims of evolutionsits, Creationists do not infact reject science- We embrace it because it shows the NEED for an Intelligent Designer- and when Evolutionsits put forth their assinine arguments abotu how Irreducible Complexity ‘could have evolved’ thewy apparently are too dimwhitted to recognize that their explanatiosn invovle the ‘evolution’ of IC via Intelligently designed circumstances, and biologically impossible scenarios! Miller faield miserably in his attempts to discredit Behe- and apaprently wasn’t sensible enoguh to recognize how silly his arguements sounded, and didn’t recognize the fact that he ended up supporting IC and ID- not refuting it!
And remeenber, anyoen can claim to be Christian, but hteir vehemence agaisnt God and God’s children show that they are anythign but Christian! They apparently think that attaching the title ‘Christian’ to their claims wikll give their silly aergtuments credence with the Real Christian Community
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