Posted on 08/18/2012 2:50:53 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
But I don't know if it would stand up to a Humvee driving over it. Knowing a marine or two, they trust but verify!
There are a couple design flaws in the 1911 that were corrected in Browning’s next pistol, the Hi-Power. FN completed the Hi-Power design after John Browning passed away.
All modern pistols have the feed ramp integral with the barrel instead of using the frame.
Also, new pistols use a small coil spring on the extractor which tilts upon a pin. This is has more long term durability that the 1911’s leaf spring type extractor.
Finally, the double stack magazine is an improvement over the single stack type. This is evident in the name “Hi-Power”, because the result is more firepower capacity in the double stack mags.
I’ll get flamed for this, but the 1911 in its original form is obsolete. However, there are new versions of the 1911 which incorporate these features.
The 1911’s grip safety is pure engineering genius. John Browning intended it to be carried cocked and unlocked with this feature.
My idea of the ultimate combat handgun would be a 1911 with all three of these design upgrades chambered in .400 Cor-Bon to have 10mm ballistic effectiveness.
This caliber can use .45 magazines and only require a different barrel and recoil springs.
I have owned a Colt Delta Elite and compact EAA Witness in 10mm. The dual recoil springs in those worked quite well.
I just bought my first 1911 yesterday. That thing is sweet. I like it a lot more than the 9mm. And I love that pistol.
Fixed it for ya.
"Tested to make sure it can be dropped in water, covered in mud, immersed in sand or ice, or left in a dust storm — and still be able to blast off a round when you pull the trigger."
"Virtually, it's indestructible"
"You can drive over these things with a Humvee and they're still gonna work."
"It's like a brick that shoots bullets."
WELL.........DUH.........The old 1911 has done all that for the last 100 years !! What's the big deal? Where's the changes? Only change I can see are a couple of minor exterior changes, plus a new color.
To do all the above things, there's obviously been no operational changes.
Nope, there are plenty of classes and competitions where DA is permitted, and they usually end up losing.
If they were going to replace the 1911 with a Beretta they should have gone with the 40 call Beretta 96F.
Personally I think the 40 cal CZ75B is an even better choice.
As a Navy FMF Corpsman, I carried a Colt .45 on both tours. Also had a .38 stub nose as a backup (passed on from another Corpsman when he rotated home) but never used it. Had to get ammo from the civilians (RMK/BRJ Construction guys). I too passed it on when I left from my first tour.
>>pop gun 9mm<<
This is absurd. If you NEED more than a 9+P, you NEED a rifle of some sort. I see statements like this and they are usually made by those who know very little about what they’re talking about. Shot placement is key, and when shot placement isn’t good enough, a traditional compact or full size handgun isn’t going to be good enough.
I love 1911’s. I borrowed a friend’s for a number of years (I cried when he wanted it back) and would often carry it in the “wild” (no, not South Dallas) on a Tac vest as a backup. I’d switch between that and a revolver. My 13 shot 9mm H&K stayed at my side all the time, with or without the “backup.”
If you WANT a .40, .45, .357mag/sig, 44 mag, whatever, get one. They’re all great guns, but a 9 is NOT a pop gun. In fact, a 9 should be the “default” choice — the one to get unless you specifically desire another caliber. Cheaper ammo and a little easier to shoot than most, so you’ll practice more and be more proficient. I would not recommend the .45 for purchase unless one has shot it a bunch or just wants to have it around.
As a combat tool: agreed. But the 1911 is no more obsolete than a sailboat.
$1,875 per?
The taxpayer is getting royally screwed here.
Yes, but military ammo is not handload or typical commercial factory ammo. They seal the primers with lacquer, for starters. If you check out military AARs, restrike almost never solves a failure to fire. I would also point out that if you need to restrike, the hammer is exposed and it takes little time to recock a 1911.
I would further point out that restrike is so important, many modern DA-type pistols don’t actually have it. Glocks don’t, for example, and the militaries and police that have adopted them don’t seem to see as a problem.
Modern 1911s are far more accurate without sacrificing reliability.
Yes, I know what a CZ-75 is. And the DA/SA trigger has the same problem they all do - the trigger position varies between the DA first shot and the subsequent SA follow ups. So does the trigger effort.
It's a crying' shame so many of the coolest frames are usually outfitted with this "feature" by default.
Then again, I'd probably be a lot poorer if they didn't.
It says Colt on the side, of course they are.
It is.
And we Browningites regard a trip to the range with a 1911 as one of our pillars. Knob Creek for a session on a Ma Duce is the equivalent of the haj.
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