GOP votes down civil unions [in Tampa, pre-convention]

Washington Post ^ | Aug 21 2012 | Rosalind S. Helderman

[scottjewell]

TAMPA–The Republican party platform will continue to call for a constitutional amendment prohibiting same-sex unions, after a drafting committee rejected an attempt to allow for civil unions for gays and lesbians.

A loud majority of the committee opposed the amendment in a voice vote.

Discussion continues in the committee of other amendments that would also soften the party’s platform language on marriage.

Barbara Ann Fenton of Rhode Island suggested that the 112 members of the GOP platform committee endorse new language that would call for religions to define marriage in their own way but allow government to offer civil unions to both heterosexual and homosexual couples.

Fenton said she opposes gay marriage as a Roman Catholic. But, she added, “those are my religious belief and this country was founded on the separation of church and state. Coming from Rhode Island, we take that pretty seriously.”

Other delegates said support for traditional marriage is a bedrock Republican principle.

[scottjewell]

A bit different from the other article posted on pre-convention GOP Voting:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2921016/posts?page=32

[Sacajaweau]

Why do people keep interjecting Religion into this. It’s not necessary. Marriage means “Union”. Gays don’t meet the criteria....never did....never will.

[Vigilanteman]

Well, there goes the moderate gay vote. Maybe even all 94 of them.

[scottjewell]

I would agree that it is not necessary.

[Dilbert San Diego]

Why is it okay for the liberals to impose homosexual marriage on the entire society, but it’s not okay for the rest of us to impose traditional marriage as the legal definition of marriage for our society??

If the issue is “imposing values” and all that, the liberals seek to impose a certain worldview and minset into our laws. Why is it okay to impose a liberal worldview, but not a conservative worldview????

[jettester]

Have any of these idiots ever truly studied history and our Founding Fathers, namely the ones who wrote the Declaration and Constitution? No where does it say anything about the separation of church and state - no matter what the liberals want to try and cram in our heads through the liberal indoctrination of public schooling. The most popular book in the original 13 colonies was the Bible and #2 was the New England Primer - the people who founded this country were immersed in a religious upbringing and a spiritual connection with their Creator in all things including the relationship of government to God and His people.

[scottjewell]

They got the “separation of Church and State” in their heads and cannot get it out. They’re like a dog with a bone on this issue...

[ColdSteelTalon]

Do two people have a right to enter into a contract? The problem I have with the homosexual advocates are they are trying to re-define the word marriage in the English language and they are in the minority so the answer is that no they do not have that right to change the meaning of that word.

If they want to have a "civil union", sanctioned by the state, I really have no problem with that. It does not change the fact that homosexuality is an affront to God. I don't recognize state authority anyway in marriage. A marriage not sealed in accordance to the laws of Moses is fornication.

Our Church does not recognize state sanctioned marriages and neither do I.

[fwdude]

Well, there goes the moderate gay vote. Maybe even all 94 of them.

LOL!! Too true.

Seriously, though. There is no "moderate" homosexual, at lease not one that's practicing and/or activist. There is nothing moderate about sexual anarchy.

[StonyBurk]

here in Colorado —when we the good people voted to have the definition of “marriage” as between a man and a woman elevated
to Constitutional Status... we also said NO! to the Fraud of Civil Unions Like Dr.Kelly Hollowell wrote for WND several years ago “IT’s Dilution,Stupid!” Seems this electionis shaping up between the Moral and Religious — and the “already captured” Progressives. The Party of Deception and Destruction promotes same sex Marriage— and raises Every suggestion that the GOP is as bad —or worse and the GOP WILL NOT STAND and defend their own.

[scottjewell]

This is why they won’t stop at civil unions. They want that word “marriage” in there so it can creep into the religious realm. They want to undo history. At least symbolically, through language.

[fwdude]

Our Church does not recognize state sanctioned marriages and neither do I.

If you advocate for STATE-SANCTIONED "civil unions," you WILL be forced to recognize all of the various implications that injects into everyone's life. It will have nearly the same effect as implementing same-sex "marriage."

Consider the case of Lisa Miller, who entered into a mere "civil union" with another lesbian in Vermont before renouncing her homosexuality and taking her own biological daughter with her. The courts nevertheless declared the ex-partner as much of a parent of Lisa's child as Lisa, EVEN THOUGH SHE NEVER OFFICIALLY ADOPTED THE CHILD AS A PARENT. Now, she has fled the U.S. to protect her daughter from the abuse that was being inflicted by the lesbian. Others helping Lisa flee are now being sued, one man has been imprisoned. All because of a "civil union."

The GOP will do good to reject even this. It is madness just the same.

[ColdSteelTalon]

Yep agreed.