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Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race
Wapost ^ | 8/21/12 | Nia-Malika Henderson

Posted on 08/21/2012 10:40:56 AM PDT by Uncle Slayton

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To: Uncle Chip

The article seems to also state that the woman’s body has a reproductive strategy and “a way to shut the whole thing down.” But the author of the article says not for reasons Akin thinks. If you can get past the evolution and atheistic theory from the links, it seems they agree.


401 posted on 08/21/2012 5:29:36 PM PDT by Herbster
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To: kevao

“The media is going to hammer the entire GOP endlessly over this. Every single House and Senate race is going to be adversely affected by this!!

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You are right.

Thanks to his selfishness, Obamacare is likely here to stay, and as someone who just spent 12 hours in an emergency room hoping to see a doctor for a (likely dislocated and) painful shoulder...it would be a disaster.

Why do so many wealthy and/or connected Canadians travel to the U.S. for healthcare?

This is a disaster. It won’t go away and will make all Republicans look like stupid Neanderthals.

A woman cannot control her reproductive system with her mind. If Akin thinks he can, let him will his heart to stop beating.


402 posted on 08/21/2012 5:36:35 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (Pray for America. She is the world's last best hope for freedom.)
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To: Mr Rogers; rwfromkansas; P-Marlowe

What you’re missing is that RWKansas and I go all the way back to the Calvin Wars on the Religion Forum years ago. Without that context it would have been impossible for you to understand the theological snicker that was going on there. :>)

That said, the man did earn a Master of Divinity there, an MDiv is generally the preparatory degree for ordination and ministry, he’s been a lifelong conservative with an extremely high ACU rating, and in this instance he was actually trying to make a case for preserving an innocent life.

I’m betting that Akins is the real deal when it comes to his Christian faith, and that he’s not departed from it even in Congress.


403 posted on 08/21/2012 5:45:11 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: proud American in Canada

Sorry to hear about your shoulder. Hope they get that fixed up for you by this time next year.

I wonder, ten years from now, whose national health system will suck worse, ours or the Canadians’? Maybe some of us will be heading up there for care. Wouldn’t that be a hoot?


404 posted on 08/21/2012 5:46:25 PM PDT by kevao (Obama didn't kill Bin Laden. Someone else made that happen!)
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To: Herbster; JustSayNoToNannies
The article seems to also state that the woman’s body has a reproductive strategy and “a way to shut the whole thing down.” But the author of the article says not for reasons Akin thinks. If you can get past the evolution and atheistic theory from the links, it seems they agree.

Thanks -- you are absolutely correct. They do.

405 posted on 08/21/2012 6:02:12 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: mlizzy

“There is no forgiveness in politics.”

-William Jennings Bryan


406 posted on 08/21/2012 6:40:57 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: xzins

How incredibly embarrassing that he graduated from there. Wow.


407 posted on 08/21/2012 7:01:26 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: xzins

Those were the days. Thanks for the info.


408 posted on 08/21/2012 7:05:26 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: xzins

I would bet he’s a Christian, but not because of his MDiv. I’ve met too many pastors who didn’t believe in God...at least, not in the God revealed in the Bible.

Thanks for the background, tho - makes more sense now!


409 posted on 08/21/2012 7:09:12 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberalism: "Ex faslo quodlibet" - from falseness, anything follows)
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To: rwfromkansas

I was a bit more interested in whether one of the elect can subsequently be damned to hell by God.

Sounds like loss of salvation to me....and non-perseverence of the saints.

What you think?


410 posted on 08/21/2012 7:16:05 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: kevao

“Sorry to hear about your shoulder. Hope they get that fixed up for you by this time next year.”

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LOL! Maybe. I woudn’t bet on it though. :)

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“I wonder, ten years from now, whose national health system will suck worse, ours or the Canadians’? Maybe some of us will be heading up there for care. Wouldn’t that be a hoot?”

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It would, sadly: I hope it doesn’t happen. (Although Quebec has private MRI clinics that get a lot of business from Ontarians. Odd that doctors like to be paid!) ... And it would be incredibly sad. Fewer dollars for care, for research.... it would be the world’s loss.


411 posted on 08/21/2012 7:23:34 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (Pray for America. She is the world's last best hope for freedom.)
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To: xzins

Obviously not. Damn to hell is an expression, not literal...:)


412 posted on 08/21/2012 7:25:50 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: TomasUSMC

Actual we permit the slaughter of 1.5 MILLION human beings a year. Now divide that by 365 ( they dont kill on Saturday or Sunday) we find that these murders kill over 4500 babies a DAY!! 4 times what you guessed at. We wonder why Gods wrath has started to fall on us?


413 posted on 08/21/2012 8:26:01 PM PDT by marygonzo
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To: Sola Veritas
384 posted on Tue Aug 21 2012 17:28:03 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Sola Veritas: “BTW - Excellent post!”

Thanks!

384 posted on Tue Aug 21 2012 17:28:03 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Sola Veritas: “I’m also starting to think Palin isn’t socially or morally conservative as I falsely assumed. She is too much a “Tea Party Fiscal Conservative.” That type of fiscal conservatism at the expense of morality is just plain wrong.”

I think you may have just identified an element behind Sarah Steelman’s endorsement by Sarah Palin. Of course there are other entirely legitimate factors involved on why somebody could prefer Steelman or Brunner. I could have lived with any of the three main Republican candidates.

414 posted on 08/21/2012 8:37:05 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: proud American in Canada
This is a disaster. It won’t go away and will make all Republicans look like stupid Neanderthals.

May I ask why conservatives are supposed to allow liberals to define just what constitutes a "neandarthal?" In fact, why are you regurgitating a liberal insult?

415 posted on 08/21/2012 8:41:09 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: mlizzy
397 posted on Tue Aug 21 2012 17:57:35 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by mlizzy: “Can one put a little more pressure on the guy? Anyone standing up for life has a difficult road ahead of him. I hope parents in general are kinder to their children (adult or otherwise) who makes mistakes, than they have been to Todd Akin.”

I may agree with your underlying point, but not the specific application.

I have two nieces who live with me. One is 13; the other is 21. Both consider me to be very kind and gentle, which may say less about me and more about their father, who was in the South Korean Special Forces. Parenting styles differ and there is nothing wrong with that as long as biblical principles are followed.

When my 13-year-old niece makes a mistake, it usually is something that affects nobody outside our home, and the consequences rarely extend beyond herself. For example, if she fails to do her homework, we have a talk about being responsible in small things and how that trains us to be responsible in bigger things, but the fact is she's hurting mostly herself.

For now.

On the other hand, when my older niece enters the Army, her decisions will have the very real possibility of getting people killed. She is a good marksman already and could very easily end up needing to use that skill. More significantly, in the MOS she wants, she will be directly involved in life-and-death decisions. Even though she won't be in direct combat by design, we all know there is no such thing as a front line anymore and combat can come to anyone anywhere who wears the uniform. Even apart from life-and-death decisions, I've shown her news coverage of Abu Ghraib to illustrate how much damage a soldier can do to America by dumb choices. I have made extremely clear to her that when she puts on the uniform of the United States Army and has a flag on her shoulder, she represents America and American values to a lot of people who will know very little about America firsthand except what they see from her.

That's responsibility, big time, and I've told her that her choices can either help or hurt many people besides herself.

When Rep. Akin made a mistake — and he's admitted to doing so — his mistake carried massive consequences. He needs to be held accountable for his actions. Now that he's decided to remain the Republican nominee, he needs to watch very carefully that he doesn't do anything else to wreck his campaign and that of others.

Rep. Akin won the Republican primary fair and square, and he did so by a pretty significant margin of six percentage points. This was the breakdown:

Todd Akin REP 217,428 36.0%
John G. Brunner REP 180,796 30.0%
Sarah Steelman REP 176,146 29.2%

http://enr.sos.mo.gov/ENR/Views/TabularData.aspx

It was his decision whether to pull out or stay in the race. Now that he's decided to stay in, it is critical that he not make another major mistake that could not only cost the Republican Party this senate seat but also harm many other candidates in this state and elsewhere.

To fail to call Rep. Akin to fulfill those responsibilities is not being kind to him or to anybody else.

416 posted on 08/21/2012 9:05:30 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Longbow1969
Actually there is data that says otherwise.

It isn't 'magic' it is stress.

The fact is that there is a low % of pregnancy from violent rape.

Doesn't mean there isn't any.

417 posted on 08/22/2012 12:01:16 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Sola Veritas

“....Akin WON the election in Missouri and he didn’t buy it like Romney did.....”
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You’re right, Akin didn’t “buy” his nomination. He didn’t have to—the Democrats and the McCaskill campaign and their allies did it for him. And they are bursting their buttons on how well their investments have paid off. So how many buttons do you have left on your shirt?


418 posted on 08/22/2012 1:30:34 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: mrsmith

He will not win.


419 posted on 08/22/2012 1:30:57 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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To: marygonzo

32,000 women per year become pregnant due to rape. You love the guy? Do you really want to say that? “Legitimate” rape? You know more than the Republicans asking...telling...him to withdraw? He cannot and should not win. He is amazingly ignorant. No one that ignorant should hold public office. Nor should he be allowed to operate a toaster.


420 posted on 08/22/2012 1:45:28 PM PDT by DallasSun (Courage~Fear that has said its prayers.)
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