Posted on 08/22/2012 10:06:36 PM PDT by Loud Mime
Need an ID to buy beer, cigarettes, get on a plane.
Minimum of what a valid voter should be able to produce.
But the tell that Republicans were not serious about fraud prevention was their failure to call for laws limiting absentee balloting to those with a valid excuse for not voting at the polling place. A recent News21 survey of prosecutions in all 50 states shows that vote buying through absentee ballots is a real—though relatively small— problem. That survey found that impersonation fraud is almost non-existent—10 allegations across the country in the last decade. It’s no wonder, as impersonation fraud is an exceedingly dumb way to seal an election.
No supporting data.
What a pile of obama...
The Minnesota election was decided by felons allowed to vote.
One Senate seat enough proof to show the laws need to prevent stolen elections?
Felons decide election:
Argument over. Try a new topic.
They love to set up straw men in these false narratives of theirs and then knock them down. Republican don’t usually claim there is any epidemic of vote fraud, because they don’t need to. Most people understand that common sense measures to prevent fraud should be taken, whether or not there is any epidemic or pressing need for them. It’s the Dems who throw out “there’s no vote fraud” as some excuse for why we shouldn’t take the simplest measures to prevent vote fraud.
If anything, Republicans only go and cite examples of actual vote fraud in order to give the lie to the Democrat excuses for inaction.
Use false and exaggerated claims. Don’t correct the record when proven wrong. Use a bait-and-switch on fraud allegations to justify laws which don’t prevent fraud. Make people believe voter fraud is an epidemic when it’s not. And call those who point out the truth “vote fraud deniers.”
Just the democrat way, why get your pants in a wad?
It’s no wonder, as impersonation fraud is an exceedingly dumb way to seal an election.
most thieves crooks and many liberals are not known for being very smart...
personally i like to know just how strict is voting via mail. I think most of the fraud is committed via mail not at the booth
OF COURSE there are very few examples of voter fraud.
BECAUSE NOBODY CHECKS FOR IT. . .
Duh. . .you can’t find what you’re not looking for. . .
DEM don’t like regulations on elections, but regulating what we eat, buy etc is fine
DEM don’t like regulations on elections, but regulating what we eat, buy etc is fine
Not only is there no supporting data, but also the argument itself is weak. Not calling for a law does nothing to imply that we wouldn’t support it if proposed. I haven’t heard any Democrats call for such legislation either, for that matter.
I think most Republicans would be happy to support legislation to prevent absentee ballot fraud. However, I’d want to see any such legislation include stronger provisions to make sure that absentee ballots were both distributed in the proper, timely manner, and that they were actually counted before the votes were certified.
They say this but there have been many high profile voter fraud cases the last couple of decades.
A Conservative needs to research these and put them all in one place and get them out there.
The first thing visible in Prof. Rick Hasen's office on the third floor of the UCI School of Law is a voting booth just inside the door - one from Florida actually used during the hotly contested presidential election of 2000.
That's because election law, Hasen’s primary field of expertise, took off with that election, he explains, after the U.S. Supreme Court refused to order a recount in Florida, and George W. Bush defeated Al Gore by a narrow margin. "In 2000, the area exploded," Hasen says. "Most major law schools now have someone in the field and there are competing textbooks."
If I remember correctly, the selective recount was refused by the USSC UNANIMOUSLY! An entire recount was possible.
Anybody keen on this?
Another thing I noticed:
“That survey found that impersonation fraud is almost non-existent—10 allegations across the country in the last decade.”
The way this is stated, it cannot possibly be the case that there were only 10 cases reported where in person vote fraud occured. The wording “impersonation fraud” leads me to think they are talking only about cases where a real, living, legitimate registered voter complained that someone else cast their vote. If that is true, it conveniently excludes registered voters voting in their own name multiple times, voting in the name of nonexistent people, voting using the names of dead people, or old invalid registrations of people who no longer live in the district to discover the fraud and report it, etc.
So, it seems to be the classic bait and switch. Contrast in person vote fraud with absentee ballot fraud, and then show some statistics for absentee ballot fraud versus just a small subset of in person vote fraud.
The group is the King Street Patriots!
I ran into them at a Tea Party event.
http://www.kingstreetpatriots.org/
Yes, I do believe you are correct. The way I remember it, there was a full recount that kicked in automatically, by state law. When that recount started going in Bush’s favor, and the margin of victory was widening, the Dems sued in Florida court to stop the full recount. Then they fought in court, all the way up to the USSC to attempt to get them to order only a selective recount, and the Supremes refused to interfere in the process by overturning the state courts. Then, finally the full recount resumed and W was declared the winner.
At least, that is my recollection.
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