Posted on 08/23/2012 6:13:52 AM PDT by Toadman
...the veterans' partisan excesses and absurd public remarks are turning them into a laughingstock within the special forces community.
(Excerpt) Read more at theatlanticwire.com ...
Even worse. The Obama administration compromised ongoing operations and the details have been reported and are fresh in people's minds.
The video is powerful and factual. Nothing there to mock.
The night Obama announced the death of bin Laden, he stalked down the hall to the podium, striking an incongruous John Wayne posture. Maybe he was getting advice from his Hollywood supporters even then.
He was clearly planning to exploit this issue heavily in the campaign, but these retired SEALS have made it impossible. He can't claim credit for OBL without drawing attention to the deliberate leaking by his adminstration, and the potentially deadly consequences resulting from those leaks.
Ok, I got it wrong...
That’s “squealing pigs”, not “screaming babies”....
Sheesh, hard to keep the stupidities of the veep straight.
retired Navy SEAL Capt. Rick Woolard. "I would prefer that SEALs and other special operators would sit down and shut the hell up."
I've been keeping tabs on the number of views, likes/dislikes. What I find a little odd is that there are no new comments. All I see are comments from "one week ago" when the video was first posted on YouTube.
The video even has some "competition". (LOL)
IIRC, he was in country for about 3 months and "earned" 3 Purple Hearts, 2 for scratches. His record also shows he volunteered for swift boat at a time they just cruised up and down the coast. The mission was later change to deadly up river patrol, when he decided to put himself in for the Purple Hearts for the most menial injuries that provided his way out. He's a punk and a fraud and always will be. The Swift Boaters showed so and that's why he has such little political capital to this day.
They pulled this same crap when Governor Jan Brewer of Arizona instituted some tough new anti-ILLEGAL immigration rules, they had nothing logical they could say so they said she was making AZ a “laughingstock” (???) as if that would somehow shame her into relenting.
Love it. Let's try a better bumber sticker:
It is horrible, though, that the bootlicking media has been able to successfully portray those patriots by inventing the term "swiftboating". They then proceeded to define that term as lying when it is actually the absolute opposite.
They were also able to give the TEA Party a filthy and negative connotation when it's really about the people being overtaxed. Unfortunately, the only way to fight the corrupt media is to sink to their level, but it must be done.
I’m not getting your reference
What is it with people that freely slam men that go through the toughest and longest military training in the world?
I stand with OPSEC.
Not to worry. It won’t be long before Obama and his filthy democrats will be out of power. Then the libs can get back on their head meds and eat from dumpsters.
I can smell their fear.....
I wonder what would happen if the retired SEALs, perhaps joined by other SOF retirees, were to, a la Colonel Hollister, whose case I believe is the only one in the federal courts where standing was granted, file suit and seek an injunction against the movie and include the producers and the fraud occupying the Oval Office as co-defendants. It would seem if the project goes forward they and all their comrades on active duty will suffer irreparable harm. It also seems that Sheriff Joe has given them some ammo not used by Colonel Hollister. They might be difficult to marginalize and ridicule per the Alinsky rules and somewhat difficult for the lamestream to ignore.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Progress_for_America
See the section “PFA Spin-Offs & Projects”
13 MAR 2003
...was a promise worth keeping.
FReep on.
That’s like the AP article that was headlined “Special operators to anti-Obama groups on bin Laden killing: zip it”:
The one guy they quote is an SF officer, MAJ Lujan, who did spend 3 years as an ODA leader in 7th Group, with one Afghan tour, and has since polished his Dari and been deployed as an advisor once, while spending time at the Kennedy School at Harvard (aka Democrat’s Daycare) as a grad student and at West Point as a professor. His career shows that he’s really a politician in uniform: a stint as a volunteer on House committee Dem staff, involvement with the Democrats’ GWOT think-tank, the Center for a New American Security, etc.
Somehow they get from one guy, Lujan, to “Special Operators”. See Lujan’s bio here, and if you have the time to read the transcript his sucking up to GEN Keane will gag you.
In my experience, the graduates of the Military Academy are a bimodal distribution: studs and slugs. The former are dedicated to selfless service. The handful of Pointers we got in SF before it was a branch (i.e. when it was career suicide) were almost all this type. The latter are careerist knob-polishers, political and social climbers who are dedicated to serviceless self. A high percentage of the Pointers who have entered SF since it has become fashionable and career-boosting are this type of man.
I don’t know Major Lujan personally, but I have assigned him to one of those two bins tentatively. And I’m still hooting over the idea of a guy who’s got the uncontrollable camera-and-reporter reflex of Chuck Schumer invoking the ethos of the “quiet professional”.
Meanwhile, the Dems’ message is clear, if false:
“”And let’s not forget that this is the commander in chief who finally led the mission that brought Osama bin Laden to justice,” said [NH Dem Senator Jeane] Shaheen.”
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/dem-senator-obama-led-seals-mission-kill-bin-laden_650242.html
Mean Jeane was introducing Obama. (Incidentally, if you’re a vet in NH, a VA or other problem raised with her office gets a form letter occasionally, but ignored more usually).
He turned loose GEN Dempsey (I thought he was the weasel who, after Fort Hood, said “the shooting was unfortunate but it would be a tragedy if we let this affect our precious Diversity programs,” but that was a different d-bag, Casey) to explain how political speech is not OK (i.e., if it’s against his padrón).
Obama’s also run an ad suggesting that Mr Romney would not have greenlighted the mission. My personal belief is the he not only would have done it, it wouldn’t have taken multiple attempts to get the idea past Valerie Jarrett (aka the Cruella de Vil of Chicago slumladies).
To see where Obama stands on terrorism, look up what happened with a guy named Daqduq.
I am retired (sort of; my retirement orders are missing, with which Sen Shaheen has been zero assistance). But I am working in another capacity where I have frequent contact with serving SF and other SOF. At every level from selection candidate to stars. (Hang around long enough and the lieutenants you drank with are lieutenant generals or vice admirals). I am nobody special but had a Gump-like knack for being around the cats who turned out to be Distinguished Members of the Regiment.
The special ops veterans in groups like Special Operations Speaks and Special Opetarions OPSEC Education fund have been taking a lot of hits, and hav even been put on the President’s official Enemies List, which opens them up to such attacks as the IRS leaking their tax returns to Gawker:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/08/21/Obama-Adds-Military-Heroes-to-Enemies-List
The US Naval Institute has it right. when you’re retired (or a reservist out of uniform), you’re a citizen again, and the muzzle comes off.
I think that other vets (I’m US Army, 1963-66, will join with me in disputing that Ben Smith’s behavior is either heroic or fitting with the code of the Navy SEALs. For instance:
In Facebook postings, OPSEC spokesman rips Communist-in-Chief Hussein Mao-bama
The lead spokesman for OPSEC Education Fund, a group of former special operations soldiers attacking PresidentBarack Obama’s national security credentials, has a long record of questioning the president’s birthplace and religion, and calling him names like “Commander-in-Chief Hussein Mao-bama,” trumpeting conspiracy theories, and insulting Muslims.
Former Navy SEAL Ben Smith is often quoted representing OPSEC Education Fund , a group of former special operations members who accuse the president of allowing leaks about classified military operations and taking undue credit for the work of special operations forces, such as the May 2011 killing of Osama bin Laden.
In Facebook postings, OPSEC spokesman rips Communist-in-Chief Hussein Mao-bama
The group claims to be non-partisan, although the New York Times has reported that several of its members have been involved in Republican campaigns or have been associated with the Tea Party in the past.
Smith, who is featured in OPSEC’s 22-minute video “Dishonorable Disclosures,” was not only a spokesman for the Tea Party Express, he has a long record of writings that seek to portray the president as a foreign-born imposter bent on driving a socialist-Marxist agenda.
Following the president’s January 2012 State of the Union Address, Smith wrote on his Facebook page , “This speech was given by the Heir Communist-in-Chief Hussein Mao-bama.”
Smith then wrote that Obama had used “some bad tan lotion because he looked like an old bruised Banana which made me think that Harry Belafonte was walking out to give his rendition of Day-O’ before ole’ suck and blow’ was to come out and enlighten us with his blasphemous spew.”
“You are an Imposter, You are a Muslim (Cassius Clay, Lew Alcindor, Barry Soetoro), You are the Manchurian President and may you go back to the country you were born in when you are deposed you little, little man (and take all your communist sympathizers with you),” Smith wrote. “You insult everything that was considered American. May you and your administration be a lesson to history and your posterity be lost to the rebirth of AMERICAN PATRIOTISM!”
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/08/21/in_facebook_postings_opsec_spokesman_rips_communist_in_chief_hussein_mao_bama
The Navy SEALs are among the bravest military units of history and have been showered with admiration and respect, by people all over the world, especially after the Bin Laden raid. But people like Smith, and Matt Bissonette, who will pick up nearly %5 million for his tell-all book, have succeeded in one thing. They have driven a wedge between Seals, causing to fracture and morale and cohesion both are heading south. The Secretary of the Navy has a huge job on his hands, trying to restore morale in this proud military unit.
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