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Obama's Navy SEAL Critics Are Failing Miserably
The Atlantic Wire ^ | 22 Aug 2012 | JOHN HUDSON

Posted on 08/23/2012 6:13:52 AM PDT by Toadman

...the veterans' partisan excesses and absurd public remarks are turning them into a laughingstock within the special forces community.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlanticwire.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: navyseals; obama; seal
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To: Past Your Eyes
Swift Boaters, version 2012?

Even worse. The Obama administration compromised ongoing operations and the details have been reported and are fresh in people's minds.

The video is powerful and factual. Nothing there to mock.

The night Obama announced the death of bin Laden, he stalked down the hall to the podium, striking an incongruous John Wayne posture. Maybe he was getting advice from his Hollywood supporters even then.

He was clearly planning to exploit this issue heavily in the campaign, but these retired SEALS have made it impossible. He can't claim credit for OBL without drawing attention to the deliberate leaking by his adminstration, and the potentially deadly consequences resulting from those leaks.

61 posted on 08/23/2012 7:40:51 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: matginzac

Ok, I got it wrong...
That’s “squealing pigs”, not “screaming babies”....
Sheesh, hard to keep the stupidities of the veep straight.


62 posted on 08/23/2012 7:44:25 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: A Navy Vet

retired Navy SEAL Capt. Rick Woolard. "I would prefer that SEALs and other special operators would sit down and shut the hell up."

63 posted on 08/23/2012 7:46:50 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Doogle

I've been keeping tabs on the number of views, likes/dislikes. What I find a little odd is that there are no new comments. All I see are comments from "one week ago" when the video was first posted on YouTube.

The video even has some "competition". (LOL)


64 posted on 08/23/2012 7:49:37 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Toadman
From what I have seen on the TV, the headline should have read "Obama's Critics of the Navy SEALs Are Failing Miserably". It's not too wise for Obama and his surrogates to go out there and bad-mouth our nation's heroes. These people are not active duty anymore and are free to express their opinions of how the national security leaks coming out of the White House were adversely affecting their operations and how they resent Obama's grandstanding and taking personal credit for the job they actually carried out to kill bin Laden. People of all stripes don't like to see the country's toughest and bravest denigrated by their Commander-in-Chief and his liberal mouthpieces. It will leave a bad taste in a lot of voters' mouths. Photobucket
65 posted on 08/23/2012 7:49:53 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: Mr. K
"He was declared “unfit to command” and sent home after something like a month in Viet Nam."

IIRC, he was in country for about 3 months and "earned" 3 Purple Hearts, 2 for scratches. His record also shows he volunteered for swift boat at a time they just cruised up and down the coast. The mission was later change to deadly up river patrol, when he decided to put himself in for the Purple Hearts for the most menial injuries that provided his way out. He's a punk and a fraud and always will be. The Swift Boaters showed so and that's why he has such little political capital to this day.

66 posted on 08/23/2012 7:52:34 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: ryan71
The Left are the only laughingstock i have ever seen

They pulled this same crap when Governor Jan Brewer of Arizona instituted some tough new anti-ILLEGAL immigration rules, they had nothing logical they could say so they said she was making AZ a “laughingstock” (???) as if that would somehow shame her into relenting.

67 posted on 08/23/2012 7:52:38 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: 2001convSVT; Neil E. Wright; dcwusmc; Jim Robinson; Travis McGee
"Yep, President Obama is being Navy Sealed."

Love it. Let's try a better bumber sticker:

Obama is getting SEALed
With the Truth!

Kerry Got Swift-Boated For His Lies;
Obama is getting SEALed For His Leaks!

68 posted on 08/23/2012 8:09:41 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: Past Your Eyes
Swift Boaters, version 2012?

It is horrible, though, that the bootlicking media has been able to successfully portray those patriots by inventing the term "swiftboating". They then proceeded to define that term as lying when it is actually the absolute opposite.

They were also able to give the TEA Party a filthy and negative connotation when it's really about the people being overtaxed. Unfortunately, the only way to fight the corrupt media is to sink to their level, but it must be done.

69 posted on 08/23/2012 8:10:21 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: Toadman

The Alinsky media is in full cry!!


70 posted on 08/23/2012 8:16:11 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: OldEarlGray

I’m not getting your reference


71 posted on 08/23/2012 8:48:23 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (It is going to be Foot to Ass combat on election day....my foot and a Rat's ass.)
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To: arasina
That video response to “dishonest disclosures” is almost a caricature. The clown that made it isn't good enough to lick the poop off the bottom of the former seal's boots.
72 posted on 08/23/2012 9:57:44 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Toadman

What is it with people that freely slam men that go through the toughest and longest military training in the world?


73 posted on 08/23/2012 10:26:16 AM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: Toadman

I stand with OPSEC.

Not to worry. It won’t be long before Obama and his filthy democrats will be out of power. Then the libs can get back on their head meds and eat from dumpsters.

I can smell their fear.....


74 posted on 08/23/2012 10:59:49 AM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Toadman

I wonder what would happen if the retired SEALs, perhaps joined by other SOF retirees, were to, a la Colonel Hollister, whose case I believe is the only one in the federal courts where standing was granted, file suit and seek an injunction against the movie and include the producers and the fraud occupying the Oval Office as co-defendants. It would seem if the project goes forward they and all their comrades on active duty will suffer irreparable harm. It also seems that Sheriff Joe has given them some ammo not used by Colonel Hollister. They might be difficult to marginalize and ridicule per the Alinsky rules and somewhat difficult for the lamestream to ignore.


75 posted on 08/23/2012 8:39:51 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
", Progress for America Voter Fund (PFA-VF) outspent the next largest spending Democratic 527 group three-to-one on political ads. It bought US$16.8 million worth of television and radio ad time. According to Federal Election Commission data, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth came in second with US$6.3 million in ad spending." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_for_America

See the 5 million dollars from Dawn Arnall / Ameriquest?

Got a$$paper?

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=Subprime+Asspaper

Welcome to the QE Kleptocracy.
76 posted on 08/24/2012 5:28:09 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Progress_for_America

See the section “PFA Spin-Offs & Projects”


77 posted on 08/24/2012 5:37:59 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: MestaMachine
"During his first tour to Iraq, Ben witnessed the forging of the Iraqi people’s Constitution and their first elections while guarding and living with the “Top Five” of the Iraqi provisional government.

These events shed profound light on the Constitution of the United States and the concepts of freedom, liberty and tyranny."


Glad to see Ben & Co. think this...

13 MAR 2003

...was a promise worth keeping.

FReep on.

78 posted on 08/24/2012 5:50:14 AM PDT by OldEarlGray (The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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To: Toadman

That’s like the AP article that was headlined “Special operators to anti-Obama groups on bin Laden killing: zip it”:

http://www.stripes.com/news/special-operators-to-anti-obama-groups-on-bin-laden-killing-zip-it-1.186486

The one guy they quote is an SF officer, MAJ Lujan, who did spend 3 years as an ODA leader in 7th Group, with one Afghan tour, and has since polished his Dari and been deployed as an advisor once, while spending time at the Kennedy School at Harvard (aka Democrat’s Daycare) as a grad student and at West Point as a professor. His career shows that he’s really a politician in uniform: a stint as a volunteer on House committee Dem staff, involvement with the Democrats’ GWOT think-tank, the Center for a New American Security, etc.

Somehow they get from one guy, Lujan, to “Special Operators”. See Lujan’s bio here, and if you have the time to read the transcript his sucking up to GEN Keane will gag you.

https://www.foreignpolicyi.org/content/afghanistan-briefing-gen-jack-keane-usa-ret-and-maj-fernando-lujan-usa

In my experience, the graduates of the Military Academy are a bimodal distribution: studs and slugs. The former are dedicated to selfless service. The handful of Pointers we got in SF before it was a branch (i.e. when it was career suicide) were almost all this type. The latter are careerist knob-polishers, political and social climbers who are dedicated to serviceless self. A high percentage of the Pointers who have entered SF since it has become fashionable and career-boosting are this type of man.

I don’t know Major Lujan personally, but I have assigned him to one of those two bins tentatively. And I’m still hooting over the idea of a guy who’s got the uncontrollable camera-and-reporter reflex of Chuck Schumer invoking the ethos of the “quiet professional”.

Meanwhile, the Dems’ message is clear, if false:

“”And let’s not forget that this is the commander in chief who finally led the mission that brought Osama bin Laden to justice,” said [NH Dem Senator Jeane] Shaheen.”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/dem-senator-obama-led-seals-mission-kill-bin-laden_650242.html

Mean Jeane was introducing Obama. (Incidentally, if you’re a vet in NH, a VA or other problem raised with her office gets a form letter occasionally, but ignored more usually).

He turned loose GEN Dempsey (I thought he was the weasel who, after Fort Hood, said “the shooting was unfortunate but it would be a tragedy if we let this affect our precious Diversity programs,” but that was a different d-bag, Casey) to explain how political speech is not OK (i.e., if it’s against his padrón).

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/21/dempsey-disappointed-by-anti-obama-campaign-by-ex-military-members/

Obama’s also run an ad suggesting that Mr Romney would not have greenlighted the mission. My personal belief is the he not only would have done it, it wouldn’t have taken multiple attempts to get the idea past Valerie Jarrett (aka the Cruella de Vil of Chicago slumladies).

To see where Obama stands on terrorism, look up what happened with a guy named Daqduq.

I am retired (sort of; my retirement orders are missing, with which Sen Shaheen has been zero assistance). But I am working in another capacity where I have frequent contact with serving SF and other SOF. At every level from selection candidate to stars. (Hang around long enough and the lieutenants you drank with are lieutenant generals or vice admirals). I am nobody special but had a Gump-like knack for being around the cats who turned out to be Distinguished Members of the Regiment.

The special ops veterans in groups like Special Operations Speaks and Special Opetarions OPSEC Education fund have been taking a lot of hits, and hav even been put on the President’s official Enemies List, which opens them up to such attacks as the IRS leaking their tax returns to Gawker:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/08/21/Obama-Adds-Military-Heroes-to-Enemies-List

The US Naval Institute has it right. when you’re retired (or a reservist out of uniform), you’re a citizen again, and the muzzle comes off.

http://blog.usni.org/2012/08/22/general-dempseys-disappointment-with-free-speech/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UsniBlog+%28USNI+Blog%29


79 posted on 08/24/2012 11:33:45 AM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Humor me, I'm one of those scary combat vets)
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To: kcvl

I think that other vets (I’m US Army, 1963-66, will join with me in disputing that Ben Smith’s behavior is either heroic or fitting with the code of the Navy SEALs. For instance:

In Facebook postings, OPSEC spokesman rips ‘Communist-in-Chief Hussein Mao-bama’

The lead spokesman for OPSEC Education Fund, a group of former special operations soldiers attacking PresidentBarack Obama’s national security credentials, has a long record of questioning the president’s birthplace and religion, and calling him names like “Commander-in-Chief Hussein Mao-bama,” trumpeting conspiracy theories, and insulting Muslims.

Former Navy SEAL Ben Smith is often quoted representing OPSEC Education Fund , a group of former special operations members who accuse the president of allowing leaks about classified military operations and taking undue credit for the work of special operations forces, such as the May 2011 killing of Osama bin Laden.
In Facebook postings, OPSEC spokesman rips ‘Communist-in-Chief Hussein Mao-bama’
The group claims to be non-partisan, although the New York Times has reported that several of its members have been involved in Republican campaigns or have been associated with the Tea Party in the past.

Smith, who is featured in OPSEC’s 22-minute video “Dishonorable Disclosures,” was not only a spokesman for the Tea Party Express, he has a long record of writings that seek to portray the president as a foreign-born imposter bent on driving a socialist-Marxist agenda.

Following the president’s January 2012 State of the Union Address, Smith wrote on his Facebook page , “This speech was given by the Heir Communist-in-Chief Hussein Mao-bama.”

Smith then wrote that Obama had used “some bad tan lotion because he looked like an old bruised Banana which made me think that Harry Belafonte was walking out to give his rendition of ‘Day-O’ before ‘ole’ suck and blow’ was to come out and enlighten us with his blasphemous spew.”

“You are an Imposter, You are a Muslim (Cassius Clay, Lew Alcindor, Barry Soetoro), You are the Manchurian President and may you go back to the country you were born in when you are deposed you little, little man (and take all your communist sympathizers with you),” Smith wrote. “You insult everything that was considered American. May you and your administration be a lesson to history and your posterity be lost to the rebirth of AMERICAN PATRIOTISM!”
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/08/21/in_facebook_postings_opsec_spokesman_rips_communist_in_chief_hussein_mao_bama

The Navy SEALs are among the bravest military units of history and have been showered with admiration and respect, by people all over the world, especially after the Bin Laden raid. But people like Smith, and Matt Bissonette, who will pick up nearly %5 million for his tell-all book, have succeeded in one thing. They have driven a wedge between Seals, causing to fracture and morale and cohesion both are heading south. The Secretary of the Navy has a huge job on his hands, trying to restore morale in this proud military unit.


80 posted on 08/24/2012 2:16:03 PM PDT by RDangerfield (Talal, FOX & Friends, madrass)
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