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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Forcible rape is "legitimate" rape, not "illegitimate" rape. The point Akin was trying to make about legitimacy -- now lost in the shuffle -- is there would be illegitimate claims of rape used to justify abortions if rape is allowed as an exemption.

As for the analogy, well, it's pretty much a given that jumping out of a plane without a parachute will inevitably have negative consequences. That's not really true of sex without a condom... But yes, if true, this would be a criminal case even if -- as teflon9 maintains -- that this was a "honey trap." He could be found not guilty of a rape because of entrapment, but still guilty of assault because of the terms of the sexual act.

18 posted on 08/23/2012 12:48:09 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Liberty and Union, now and forever, one, and inseparable.)
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To: FredZarguna
My point was simply that rape is illegal — i.e. illegitimate. I'm aware of what Akin was *trying* to say — but, even Akin admitted he made a stupid choice of words.

There is absolutely no evidence that a honey trap was involved. If you read up on the details of the case, and the women involved, you'd see that the notion of a honey trap is far-fetched at best.

While *all* analogies are wrong in some way; the analogy between parachutes and condoms illustrates the essential point. Parachutes are safety equipment — like seat belts, helmets, hard hats, steel toed boots, and condoms. The woman consented to “safe” sex — she did *not* consent to sex without a condom. (The relative efficacy of condoms is completely beside the point.)

22 posted on 08/23/2012 1:03:46 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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