Posted on 08/24/2012 5:29:42 AM PDT by marktwain
In light of the kerfuffle surrounding concealed carry, the University of Colorado has posted a page on their website: 14 Basic Questions on concealed carry at CU-Boulder. Most of it is, indeed, basic. Have a permit, don’t brandish, return your tray tables to their original upright and locked position, that sort of thing. And then there’s the bit where CU addresses the question from the perspective of an employee, one of whom (Professor Jerry Peterson) said he’d turf any student who dared carry in his class. “Can a student who legally possesses a concealed handgun be excluded from the classroom on the grounds that the student’s presence and his or her concealed weapon constitutes a class disruption?” Just in case you missed it yesterday . . .
No. The mere act of carrying a handgun (with a concealed carry permit as authorized by law) is not in and of itself a disruption of class activity. Concealed carry permit holders should not be excluded from class under any supposition that their presence alone is a “disruption.” Another person’s adverse reaction to someone carrying a handgun in accordance with the concealed carry act is not grounds to eject the permit-holder from the classroom.
Clear? If not the University has made it clearerer [sic]:
Q | Can faculty ask a student who holds a concealed carry permit to report that status to them?While faculty can ask a student who has a concealed carry weapon permit to report that status to them, or place in a course syllabus the request that students report this status to them, students are not required to provide this information to any faculty member. Any voluntary reporting of concealed carry permit status by a student to a faculty member should be done privately. Faculty should not, under any circumstances, coerce students into complying with their requests or pressure them to answer concealed carry queries.
If you wish to place something related to this in your course syllabus, below is some suggested language:
“Concealed carry of firearms is permitted under Colorado law if you have a concealed carry permit. I would appreciate it if you would let me know this privately during the first week of class. You have my assurance that your concealed carry status will be kept confidential, and it will in no way affect your grade or evaluation as a student. I recognize you are under no obligation to supply me with this information.”
What are the odds that Professor Peterson will add that bit to his syllabus?
"Lads, we live in fine times for the 2A. This is what winning looks like. We aren’t done, and perhaps will never be, but it pays to stop after a report like this and appreciate that good arguments, science, and patience are paying off. My thanks to all the organizations whose political pressure and legal expertise have made advances like this possible."
It would never have happened without the new media.
Congratulations, CO CCW patriots! You have stood up to those who wanted to deprive you of your 2A right to defend your life and the lives of others. Well done.
I’m am amused beyond measure that the wingnuts in Boulder have to abide these rules. You know that have to be absolutely appalled by the idea that the plebes can carry guns.
As a NC native who graduated from CU, I agree. They libtard profs must be in full meltdown. I’m literally LOL.
Q: How many Boulderites does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: Boulderites don’t screw in light bulbs, they screw in hot tubs.
Amen!
Yep. The University of California at Boulder.
Since that professor has said he will cancel his class if any student brings a gun, I think it’s a marvelous opportunity for some wit to *audit* (no credit) the class, and before the start of class put up his hand and say to the assembled:
“I have a permit to legally carry a concealed handgun.”
Importantly, they should refuse any request to show that they are actually carrying a handgun, saying that they are under no requirement to do so unless officially asked to by a law enforcement officer, who has a legal reason to make such a request.
This will mean forcing the professor to put his money where his mouth is, to cancel the class. Each and every day.
Importantly, if this is done before class, it is in no way disruptive to the class, which might be verified by a confederate or two discreetly recording the event on their cell phones.
I carry concealed most everywhere I go.
If I am carrying concealed, that means that my gun is not visible.
What I want to know is why anyone on campus knows who’s carrying and who’s not..........Do you have to declare that you are carrying?
A wise professor would post a sign on the board, or near the entry door with;
“If you are a legal concealed carry holder, and are carrying, for the safety of both this class, and myself, please choose a seat in a strategic position, near the door, near a window, or any spot that gives you the upper hand over someone who would deem to interrupt this class using an illegal weapon.
Thank you in advance.”
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