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Karl Rove predicts historic loss for Todd Akin
Politico ^ | August. 27, 2012 | JENNIFER HABERKORN

Posted on 08/27/2012 10:04:11 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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To: uncbob

I don’t think so.

Defending a non exemption isn’t difficult to articulate or present, folks may not agree, but its simple.

Its bascially the sins of the father should not be put upon the son. The rapist himself would not face the death penalty, why should the innocent child??

That’s simple, concise and easy enough to understand even if you disagree with it. Its not inflamatory or extreme. The press can’t make a mountain out of it, certainly pro abortion folks will try to make it seem extreme, but it isn’t and that attempt will fail with the middle american voter. It might rile up the abortion rights folks, but it won’t turn the typical voter away.

Akin, made a verbal gaffe, by using the term “legitimate rape” which does evoke a gut instinctive repulsive response, but if that was all he did, he probably could have made it through. His allegation that women who are raped are less likely to become pregnant, now that is where he ensured he’s done. That’s not poor word choosing, thats showing that you believe something that is patently false.

Its just like Obama’s “you didn’t build that, someone else made that happen” that comment is eviceral, its gut instinct repulsive. However its what he said NEXT that made it clear, that wasn’t just a verbal gaffe, but that he TRULY believes that individuals do not create excellence. He can’t play it off as being taken out of context, because the further context shows thats it is EXACTLY what he meant.

I don’t think anyone who does not support an exemption will be roasted, but anyone who doesn’t support it and tries to jsutify it by saying raped women are less likely to get pregnant, is certainly going to be and deservedly so.


141 posted on 08/28/2012 9:26:50 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
You are the politically correct enforcer for the Washington elites on both sides. You are under their power without a thought of your own.

Read this and shut up:

Making a Mountain out of a Missouri Molehill
http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2012/08/making-a-mountain-out-of-a-missouri-molehill.html

142 posted on 08/28/2012 9:47:45 AM PDT by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: donna

Sorry, but what Akin’s said, even in your read this article, admits Akin’s claim of the magical uterus that will less likely carry a child if it was concieved in rape is WRONG.

Its FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG! And him citing it as a justification for ANY stand on abortion for or against shows the man utterly ill informed and ignorant of the most basic of reproductive facts.

I am not PC, I have no issues with Akin not wanting an exemption for rape, I personall agree that I see no reason for exemptions for rape. However to cite non existent reasons for your stand is ignorant.

Akin was presented with a very simple question, not a gotcha, if he doesn’t believe in abortion in the case of rape, he should be able to articulate it cogently and intelligently, he didn’t. Its really not that hard, the sins of the father should not be punished upon the child. The rapist himself would not face the death penalty for the crime, why should the innocent child conceived from the act? This is simple, non extreme, and NON IDIOTIC answer.

Even if you one doesn’t agree with that argument, its not an argument that can be painted to the average person as Extreme, no doubt the abortion rights groups would try, but they would mostly preach to the chior, its not an argument that can be put forth as extreme.

Akin killed himself, trying to blame the media for the idiotic and ignorant things he said is nonsense. If you are going to have a position you better be able to articulate it, and everyone has a verbal gaffe now and again, and the “legitimate rape” verbage was a basic gaffe, it could and should have been chosen better, but it wasn’t what killed him, his claim of complete lunacy about rape victims less likely to become pregnant is what killed him. He didn’t just pick words poorly, he said something he TRULY BELIEVED, something that was EMPIRICALLY AND FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG. Not just a little misunderstanding, but fundamentally wrong.

Akin made his own mountain by making such a fundamentally ignorant statement, and yes, as a life long conservative, and pro life person, I don’t want this fool near the law making body! There are too many fools in there already! if he belives what he stated, he’s just as likely to believe any mirriad of nonsensical claims and arguments and myths.

If he was smart he would have withdrawn and lived to fight another day, instead he’s decided to stay in and will continue to plumit and take other republicans with him. This fools actions have cost the Missouri senate seat, and will cost the Republicans other close races across the country. He owns this, not the media.


143 posted on 08/28/2012 10:15:46 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Read it:

Making a Mountain out of a Missouri Molehill
http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2012/08/making-a-mountain-out-of-a-missouri-molehill.html


144 posted on 08/28/2012 10:35:37 AM PDT by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: HamiltonJay

I doubt Akin made up that on his own
I would bet some medical authority in the Pro Life Movement was the basis for his belief
And this was not the first time I heard that about getting pregnant during rape being very rare
The Pro Life movement has used this argument in the past
As to what the medical facts are I still am not sure as like I said medical authorities were cited in the past by the Pro Life movement and in today’s atmosphere I doubt any authority would risk taking that position even if he/she held it


145 posted on 08/30/2012 9:07:54 AM PDT by uncbob
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