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The strange, strange story of 'gay fascism' deniers
WND ^ | August 27, 2012 | Dr. Scott Lively

Posted on 08/27/2012 10:35:53 PM PDT by Perseverando

Exclusive: Scott Lively contrasts reactions to column admitting homosexuals' history

There has been an article floating around the Internet for a long time by a self-described “gay left-wing man” named Johann Hari, a columnist for the London Independent. The article is titled “The Strange, Strange Story of the Gay Fascists,” and you can read it for yourself at the vehemently pro-”gay” Huffington Post website. It contains the remarkably forthright admission that homosexuality and fascism have always gone hand in hand. Hari writes:

“The twisted truth is that gay men have been at the heart of every major fascist movement that ever was – including the gay-gassing, homocidal Third Reich. With the exception of Jean-Marie Le Pen, all the most high-profile fascists in Europe in the past 30 years have been gay. It’s time to admit something. Fascism isn’t something that happens out there, a nasty habit acquired by the straight boys. It is – in part, at least – a gay thing, and it’s time for non-fascist gay people to wake up and face the marching music.”

Now, I have a special interest in this article because I am the co-author, along with Orthodox Jewish researcher Kevin E. Abrams of “The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party,” which makes a nearly identical claim, but one backed with nearly 400 pages of documentation.

What I find most interesting about Hari’s article is that it has garnered virtually no opposition. The few comments on the HuffPo page are mostly benign, and if you do a search on Hari’s name you find not a single suggestion that his article constitutes “Holocaust revisionism” or that he, himself, is a “homophobic bigot.” That’s very strange, because I’ve been called both a revisionist and a bigot for writing “The Pink Swastika.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: hitler; homonaziagenda; homosexualagenda; nationalsocialists; nazi

1 posted on 08/27/2012 10:36:06 PM PDT by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando

I followed Dr. Scott Lively for years and he has literally been targeted by the fascist homosexuals ever since his most compelling—well researched—and not EVER-been-debunked-by-anyone book. (Wikipedia debunks it with no proof-ha).

BTW, it is the most interesting book I have ever read-—easy read and you totally understand homosexuality-—the roots of the evil, nasty, debasing behavior that Leftists/Marxists are trying to normalize in our children so to collapse culture. (Cultural Marxism-Marcuse). Since reading Lively’s book a decade ago, I have read many other books which uphold his premise in the book.

Sample of his book:

2 posted on 08/27/2012 10:43:38 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Perseverando

thanks for this post. An interesting read and some of it I was unaware of (though some of it I knew)

3 posted on 08/27/2012 11:08:21 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

I ran across the article a little while ago as a post to another article and thought it needed to be posted as a stand alone.

4 posted on 08/27/2012 11:25:46 PM PDT by Perseverando (Gun control? It's the OBOTS who are filling up prisons for violent crimes, not the Tea Party.)
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To: savagesusie

Thanks for the info on Scott Lively. I’ll trust your judgment on his veracity.

5 posted on 08/27/2012 11:27:34 PM PDT by Perseverando (Gun control? It's the OBOTS who are filling up prisons for violent crimes, not the Tea Party.)
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To: Perseverando

Both homosexuality and fascism involve domination of other men. Perhaps that is why they are so ‘intimately’ linked.

6 posted on 08/27/2012 11:28:19 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Nifster
Or we've seen it in movies.

7 posted on 08/27/2012 11:32:17 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Perseverando

Another great book to complement this is “Answering Sodom” by Rev. Ralph Ovadahl.

8 posted on 08/27/2012 11:33:59 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: savagesusie
A most interesting article by a much smeared writer. Never mind that non family oriented authors go even further and claim Hitler himself was a homosexual (see "the Hidden Hitler).

Incidentally, my brother got Kevin Abrams -- the co author of "The Pink Swastika" -- to autograph his copy of the book.

9 posted on 08/28/2012 12:21:35 AM PDT by Stepan12
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To: Perseverando

I’ve never seen him in person, but have watched videos of him speaking. He lived 30 miles from me at one point, which caught my interest, when I moved here, right when his book (Pink Swastika) was being vilified and marginalized. I have followed him since for a decade. All MSM/Wikipedia/etc. is heavily biased against him. They vilify him and lie (Alinsky) about him.

Of course, I bought his book because at that point I understood the MSM (being a student of Michael Savage Hot Talk), I was exposed to all this liberal BS and irrational thinking and I was completely OUT of Plato’s Cave and understood the agenda of the Marxists/socialists/progressives—long before Beck.

When the Left hates something, it must really be good and the Truth. That is how I decide what is great to read or watch. They hate anything which gets in the way of their Agenda. And if it is a real threat, they become RABID. Scott Lively creates a much more rabid response than Rush Limbaugh. It is because of his profound Christianity. The Left hates God.

I understand their agenda completely because I understand childhood development better than most people because of study and experience raising children and working in schools. Scott Lively understands it, too—and Rush Limbaugh skirts the Truth-—when it comes to homosexuality and its reality and their agenda.

Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and many on the right—don’t have any experience actually raising children and they don’t understand how a child’s reality is created. I understand how vulnerable children are to brainwashing and lies, etc., and how easy it is through media and schools to make them think Up is Down. They are so trusting and love attention. Homosexuals understand that and is why they now have Kindergarten as their platform. Leftists are truly evil; they are out to corrupt children and their worldview. Lively totally understands this.

Sexual perversion normalization would never have been allowed into the school system in the 50’s and, even, 60’s in America. Not on prime time television even-—

The Weimar Republic by 1920—was very vulgar—all their art/plays/culture, where the National Vice was homosexuality. We all know what Godlessness that led to. Lively documents it. Most people are ignorant of the history of homosexuality-—it is being covered-up so they have free reign in converting/recruiting children. It is a learned activity.

Some of the most evil people were homosexuals. Charles Manson was sodomized as a boy and he sodomized a boy when he was in a detention center. Gacy—serial killer “clown” was sodomized as an 8 year old. Trauma like this in childhood will ruin many children. Chastity Bono was molested by a lesbian when she was 11. Her body image is warped and she hates her own body. They can’t overcome the loss of dignity, nor can they ever see others as people with dignity and worth.

10 posted on 08/28/2012 12:22:35 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Stepan12

I read Hidden Hitler after the Pink Swastika. What is really interesting, BTW—and Lively states this-—that books after 1970 are being wiped clean of any negative references to homosexuals and Hitler or the SA Brownshirts/ pederasty in the Hitler Youth and even in the Nazi concentration camps.

Even the serial killers—a lot of the time they call them “pedophiles” when they are pederasts. This whole changing of language-—and promotion of the idea that pederasty is not linked to homosexuality is a farce. Afghanistan is another example—lots of people don’t realize that these women-hating cultures sodomize boys and even girls, but they prefer boys. It is a learned behavior-—the boys are corrupted and never grow as nature intended. They have a warped perception of the body and sex.

When you study John Maynard Keynes-—the idol of Marxists/Leftists—they never mention he was a sodomite, worse than Sandusky by 100%. That guy literally passed around the boys in homosexual orgies (rings) and not only THAT—but targeted boys in England’s elite boarding schools and traveled to third world countries to have sex with boys. They would actually castrate little boys for fun in these countries that actually would sell their boys to these homosexual rings.

Anyway, I have a lot of WWII books and I picked one up—it was written in 1950’s and it actually had a paragraph about the homosexuality of the Nazis AND Hitler!!!! It was the first “history” book which contained this type of info that I had ever read-—and I took several history classes in college. They hide the Truth because it makes homosexuality look like a Vice.

11 posted on 08/28/2012 12:38:10 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

Interesting. This is all new info to me.

12 posted on 08/28/2012 12:49:01 AM PDT by weston (As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: weston

You will be amazed at how MSM and public schools have actually hidden the Truth—since John Dewey’s takeover of our educational system. Still—the homosexual movement never took off until 1970, although Kinsey and Hefner were vulgarizing the culture, and the schools kicked out God.

Our legal system allowed obscene material to be printed and even used in universities—like The Beats. Bill Borroughs wrote about sodomizing “hanging boys with erections”. Very sick, vulgar cr*p right out of Weimar Republic being glorified in our Universities with the taxpayers paying for the corruption of their own children. The courts removed morality from laws because of the evil Oliver Wendell Holmes, jr. He ditched our Founding Father’s vision of Justice and Just Law. Allowed arbitrary laws devoid of Right Reason.

They were getting the masses ready to believe that unnatural sex was “fun” and “good” and you were a prude if you didn’t engage in what “Deep Throat” normalized. To corrupt the masses, the easiest way is to promote sexual perversion. It is the easiest way to destroy a civil society and create mistrust and immoral people who hate each other and ignore their children, so the government can corrupt them. Sex is the easiest method to corrupt little children and adolescents. (Cultural Marxists).

13 posted on 08/28/2012 1:14:42 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

The depravity of sexuality in Weimar Germany, concentrated in Berlin, must have partly been the result of the extermination of so many of that nation’s best & brightest in the Great War 1914-18. It is even glorified in the musical “Cabaret”.

Homosexuality among Nazis was full of hatred for women. Its ranks included Ernst Rohm & other WW1 veterans which made them especially dangerous. The Third Reich then took & corrupted an entire generation of German children in its youth camps.

However, I think there’s hope, and once again, the IT revolution will be the sunshine on the fungus. A one day turnout in support for a fast food chain has awakened millions to the truth about the homosexual movement in America: it makes up less than two percent of the population, but its influence is pernicious though this is IMO about to change. The Gaystapo in America is quickly losing its ability to frighten the majority.

14 posted on 08/28/2012 4:42:03 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!)
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To: Perseverando

High-ranking homosexuals in the Nazi hierarchy included stormtrooper leader Ernst Roehm (whom Hitler had murdered in the Night of the Long Knives) and close Hitler associate and party deputy Rudolf Hess.

15 posted on 08/28/2012 4:50:04 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Perseverando

Thank you for posting this informative piece.

16 posted on 08/28/2012 5:11:53 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Perseverando

Interesting thought...domination as the common link

17 posted on 08/28/2012 6:07:52 AM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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18 posted on 08/28/2012 9:08:50 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Perseverando

Weren’t the majority of the guards working the nazi death camps perverted homosexuals?

19 posted on 08/28/2012 9:12:27 AM PDT by DMG2FUN
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To: Perseverando
I don't think I've uncovered a major conspiracy of significance, but it just seemed odd to me that google, the increasingly frighteningly intuitive search engine, had such a difficult time finding "The Pink Swastika".

The first four images are me beginning to type out the correct spelling of The Pink Swastika using auto-fill. Notice how it never finds the correct spelling of Swastika until after I enter their incorrect spelling.

Bing and Yahoo found it more directly.

Again...since google gets there with just a few more steps, I seriously doubt they're trying to hide the title, but it does seem obvious they don't like to attach the 2 words "Pink" and "Swastika" together.

Someone more familiar with the mysterious google algorithms might offer a reasonable explanation as to why this happens.

20 posted on 08/28/2012 9:30:10 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: elcid1970

Thanks for your input.

I ran into an interesting study of childhood development in 19th and early 20th centuries years ago-—which I have filed away somewhere. It dealt in parenting techniques and German and Russian women were horrid to small children. They were cruel and were not adverse to sexually abusing their children.

(Not all the Germans and Russians-—just the unChristian ones. My parents were pure German and good Christians and wonderful parents, although very strict).

The Christianity of Luther was wearing thin by the rise of the Atheists in the 1800’s, like Nietzsche and Hegel and Darwin whose ideology became the dominant worldview in Germany quickly, first the Rhine area which “flowed into the Thames”-—to deChristianize all of Europe eventually.

Pastor Bonhoeffer in the late 20’s was well aware of the “thin” Christianity “practiced” by the Germans. It was so thin-—they could put swastikas on the altars and worship Hitler without blinking an eye.

Without an Absolute (God), you can redesign Good and Evil to any random, arbitrary thing. German’s started doing that in the late 1800’s, and by the time the Weimar Republic was established, and after WWI, they had little belief in a “God”. That removal of Christian Ethics is the slippery slope to no morality what-so-ever. Their dehumanizing and debased culture swallowed many of the children.

We will be reduced to a Hobbsian nasty world, if we dump Judeo-Christian Ethics. Individuality is a Christian concept. Nothing will give dignity and worth to every human beings like Christianity-— and power over others will becomes the big thrill—using others in demeaning ways for fun to give people that temporary “feeling” of immortality which they can’t really have with a belief in no God.

21 posted on 08/29/2012 2:39:30 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

The Leftists HATE this book. I have been monitoring their “Wikipedia” and “news” stories on Scott Lively for years (Uganda, for instance). They put in articles filled with lies and negative biases, just like when they tried to twist what Dan Cathy actually said. The Left lies—always has and they twist all Truth.

It is the first time I noticed how subversive Wikipedia was-—trying to shape opinions and using BF Skinner technique to discourage people from reading anything by Lively—insinuating that he is ...............(fill in the blank) with anything demeaning and hateful which marginalizes him (Alinsky method) so that people will dismiss his book, which is pure Truth, IMHO—it is so well researched and cross-referenced. I have read other books he references in his book-—He is thorough and truthful.

I also had read “Leftist Revisited:From De Sade and Marx to Hitler and Pol Pot” and understand all Leftist movements-—and their Fascist methodology. That is another book and person the Leftists absolutely go Rabid over...... Leftism is pure evil and can NEVER stand the Truth.

The whole GAME of the Leftist movement is to control ALL the THOUGHTS of the masses-—that is where the PC comes in—concept of Mao’s. They want the minds of your children and if you allow them to feed on the ideas that are posited in public schools, have the BOOKS they recommend read by your darlings-—which glorify evil and collectivism and dependence, and watch the TV which gives children a sick picture of Reality (which will become their worldview), you will get an immoral little Marxist. Lenin knew he needed the children for only 4 years to get converts to his sick, dehumanizing ideology.

22 posted on 08/29/2012 3:00:14 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Perseverando
With the exception of Jean-Marie Le Pen, all the most high-profile fascists in Europe in the past 30 years have been gay.

I'm pretty sure that's an exaggeration. I guess it depends on how you define "high profile" (and how you define "fascist").

The appeal of fascism to some homosexuals hasn't exactly been unknown or hidden all these years. An attraction to young German soldiers and their uniforms inspired not a few collaborators in France and elsewhere.

What was surprising was how long star architect Philip Johnson was able to conceal both his homosexuality and his support for fascism from the public. He wouldn't have gotten all the commissions and honors had the truth been known.

23 posted on 08/29/2012 3:15:15 PM PDT by x
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To: savagesusie

I’m only `Einvierterdeutsch’ myself. There was a time when I admired everything great & good about German culture especially music and I still regard the Nazis as hijackers & robbers. Guess I still believe in the best of Germany. I just wish more of today’s Germans did.

But as my Dad taught me, the more you know, the more you realize how little you know (this while I was being told to study hard & get good grades. Didn’t make sense then.)

I’m older now & I have to concentrate my diminishing intelligence on the only society I ever grew up in - America. In over a century Germany hasn’t found its soul yet IMO and the solution would seem so simple - turn back to Christian traditions. Maybe the Muslim threat will finally awaken der Deutschen Volk and remind them that their roots & rock & bulwark is no further away than the nearest Bible.

Where is the modern Pastor Niemoeller?

24 posted on 08/29/2012 6:55:35 PM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!)
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To: elcid1970

“their roots & rock & bulward ARE no further away...”


25 posted on 08/29/2012 6:57:33 PM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!)
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To: elcid1970

“Where is the modern Pastor Niemoeller?”

Exactly. It would be so simple...God. The strong, brilliant German race—as bullheaded and stubborn as they are, needs a firm upbringing immersed in God with the Judeo-Christian Ethics. Pastor Bonhoeffer, I recently read the biography by Metaxas, was a brilliant, wonderful person who stood up to the evil Nazis also.

Hitler’s father treated him very cruelly, actually kicking him like he was a dog when he was a young boy. Pastor Bonhoeffer’s family was extremely supportive of their young children and Ms. Bonhoeffer only allowed tutors—never allowing her children to attend the Prussian school system until after ages 7 and 8. She stated that two things break the Germans-—the schools and the military. (We adopted the Prussian school system BTW, which the Bonhoeffers hated. )

But it was Nietzsche and the German Postmodernists in the 1800’s who thought they could go beyond Good and Evil-—and get rid of God after years of Lutheranism and Christianity. It really was a catastrophe in Germany and the ideology swept God almost completely out of all of Europe.

If you look at the “barbaric” Germans prior to their Christianization-—they were pretty brutal then, also. It was Christianity which gave such beauty and organization to the Germans who created such brilliant music and authors like Goethe. Same with the Russians. Without Christianity, there never would have been a Dostoevsky.

I received my degree in Art so have studied much Western Art. I have been to parts of Germany and seen the Roman ruins in Trier, but also the absolutely beautiful cathedrals and the countryside with little towns—houses surrounding a church with a steeple. And the wooden toys in the shops etc. Italy is beautiful also—all because of Christianity and that glorification of God. I climbed up the Dome in Florence recently-—and saw the wonder of Brunelleschi’s genius-—only because of Christianity.

That constant search for Truth and something greater than self —and the command to glorify God and treat others as you would yourself-—is a perfect way for any society to flourish. It should be obvious to anyone.

26 posted on 08/29/2012 9:05:18 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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According to the 1960 film “Exodus” at least some certainly were. Check out the at discussion 2:15-3:17 here-

And consider this movie was made in an era where this subject was far more taboo in the general culture.

27 posted on 09/02/2012 6:42:44 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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