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Obama versus Jesus: Black Christians Must Decide
The American Thinker ^ | August 28, 2012 | Lloyd Marcus

Posted on 08/28/2012 12:42:25 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

A poll claims that Romney will receive zero percent of the black vote. Well, if the poll proves correct, it means that a vast majority of black voters are ignorant of the truth...or else they're racist.

Black Christians who vote for Obama knowing his crimes against Christianity and biblical principles have chosen to worship the idol of racial loyalty over their discipleship to Jesus Christ. Pure and simple.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."-Exodus20:3

Incredibly, some blacks have completely forsaken their Christianity for Obama. A fellow PK(preacher's kid) said her parents recently changed their stance on same-sex marriage in support of their black president. I find this remarkable.

Though I disagree, I have been sympathetic and understanding with black seniors who have suffered dearly, with hearts still bearing scars of racial injustice.

A year or so ago, I hosted the first Black Conservative Press Conference at the National Press Club in D.C. Several prominent black conservatives from numerous black conservative groups/organizations spoke. My brother brought my 84-year-old black dad from Baltimore. That evening, Dad said, "Everything I heard today is true. But, because of racism I suffered in my youth, I can not turn against Obama."

At that time, I respectfully gave my hero, my preacher dad, a pass. Some may criticize me, saying, Lloyd, either you stand for conservatism or you do not. While you may have a valid point, it is in my DNA to respect my parents. How do you respectfully tell your usually character-driven parent that his decision to support Obama, no matter what, is rooted in racism and a refusal to forgive?

But now that Obama has been exposed as the most anti-Christian president in U.S. history, senior black Christians must no longer be given a pass for supporting this man.

At stake....

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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1 posted on 08/28/2012 12:42:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A poll claims that Romney will receive zero percent of the black vote.

I think that poll is PURE GARBAGE and is CONTRIVED to support the phony "Republicans are all racists" narrative.

About a month or so ago there was a group of something like 1000 black pastors that said they were telling their congregations that they should not vote for Obama due to his position on queer marriage. Common sense says more of those members will not vote for Obama this time vs 2008.

2 posted on 08/28/2012 1:04:31 AM PDT by MrDem (Founder: Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: MrDem
October 20, 2011: Don't Know Much About History (Republicans and Black Americans - a better story than you've heard)Poet W. H. Auden said professors are folks who talk in other people's sleep. True enough. I recall some nodding off in my college history classes (not by me, of course).

No one, however, slept through the history lesson Tuesday night at the monthly meeting of the Hillsborough County (Tampa) Republican Executive Committee. But then Frantz Kebreau is not your ordinary professor. If fact, he's not a professor at all but an airline pilot and former Navy pilot with more than 300 carrier landings, taking some time away from the clouds to promote a more earthly understanding of the blessings of American freedom that people of all races can enjoy (at least and until politicians zero those freedoms out).

One of the favorite indoor sports of liberals is to call conservatives, particularly those with the temerity to embrace the tea-party, racist. To hear media-appointed black "leaders" like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpie, not to mention some of the more demagogic members of the Congressional Black Caucus, you'd think all white American conservatives, regardless of protestations to the contrary and spotless lives, are closet Ku-Kluxers who can barely contain their inner Bull Connor. These bigots we're told, given half a chance, would have our black brothers and sisters on the back of the bus again in a heartbeat.......[snip]

Kebreau, whose parents immigrated to America from Haiti, is having none of this. Since 2009 he's been on the news, talk shows, and speaking circuit making the point that, though few Americans know it, the record of the Republican Party for a century and a half has not only been more supportive of Black Americans than that of the Democratic Party has, but much more so.

In his Tuesday lecture before a couple hundred GOP activists in Tampa, Kebreau pointed out that the more than a dozen civil rights acts introduced into Congress over the past century and a half were all introduced by Republicans and opposed by Democrats, often vociferously. In each case a higher percentage of Republicans supported real civil rights than Democrats, including the all-important Civil Right Act of 1964. A full 80 percent of Republicans voted in Congress for this game-changing legislation that was the beginning of the end for Jim Crow. Only 63 percent of Democrats supported it, not including Democratic icon and former Ku Klux Klan member Robert C. Byrd, who filibustered it."..... [snip]..

3 posted on 08/28/2012 1:47:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Many of them (and others) chose the Devil Obama over Jesus Christ in 2008.

Some are offended now that he’s obviously the gay-marriage-etc. enabler we always knew he would be.

Good. Thanks for waking up, Rip van Winkles. Pretty late to the party.

You should have been offended a LONG TIME AGO when this clown’s record as an Illinois state Senator to D.C. voted FOUR TIMES AGAINST BAIPA so that a baby that survived an abortion WOULD BE LEFT TO DIE WITH NO MEDICAL ASSISTANCE FOR SURVIVAL.

Do you *get* it now? Helloooooo?


4 posted on 08/28/2012 1:56:20 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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And NO McCain wasn't "Jesus" but to vote for a man like Obama, with his obvious voting record and associations was pure stupidity. Especially the worship of this clown.

Behold ye the cult of Obama.



"We're gonna spread happiness; we're gonna spread freedom.
Obama's gonna change it; Obama's gonna lead 'em.
We're gonna change it; and rearrange it.
We're gonna change the world. ... Nations all join as one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtGrp5MbzAI

Sing with Stevie ... People of the world ... Sing the mindless cult song here, too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guCcgfVUeZk
5 posted on 08/28/2012 1:59:33 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Well, if the poll proves correct, it means that a vast majority of black voters are ignorant of the truth...or else they're racist.

Why can't it be both. Several prominent examples come to mind led by Spike Lee and Chris Rock. Their fan base has the highest unemployment, recieves the most abortions, and will suffer second only to seniors under Obozo care.

6 posted on 08/28/2012 2:09:54 AM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“BLACK Christians who vote for OBAMA knowing his crimes against Christianity and biblical principles have chosen to worship the idol of RACIAL loyalty over their discipleship to Jesus Christ. Pure and simple.

“Thou shalt have no other gods before me.”-Exodus20:3”

~ ~ ~

Remove the first word and Obama and third, take out the word
racial. Type in Romney.

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“Christians who vote for Romney knowing his crimes against Christianity and biblical principles have chosen to worship the idol of loyalty over their discipleship to Jesus Christ. Pure and simple.

“Thou shalt have no other gods before me.”-Exodus 20:3”


7 posted on 08/28/2012 2:38:26 AM PDT by stpio
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To: MrDem

I totally agree that this is just to paint Romney as a racist. But I doubt that these same pastors would find Romney’s position on gays any better. That is the trouble I’m finding this year. It should be easier because blacks tend to be more anti-gay agenda than whites and don’t have the guilt other people seem to have about being against gay marriage. But Romney’s own position on gays leaves them with no reason to vote for him.


8 posted on 08/28/2012 2:44:23 AM PDT by Waryone (Definition of idiocy: nominating the father of socialized medicine to replace socialized medicine)
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To: MrDem
Common sense says more of those members will not vote for Obama this time vs 2008.
Notice that your quote does not read, “will vote for Romney this time . . ."
IMHO the effect of a decision not to vote for Obama is more likely to lead to a decision not to vote, or a failure to decide to vote. Thus, you could still see a “100%” vote for Obama and yet see a decrease in actual voting support for Obama.
Lloyd Marcus is really taking it to the wall when he challenges his preacher dad on his commitment to Jesus . . .

9 posted on 08/28/2012 2:50:21 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: stpio

Could I get a list of Romney’s crimes please? I’m not interested in doctrinal differences, just the actual crimes you have alleged. Thanks


10 posted on 08/28/2012 2:54:54 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: muir_redwoods

I see that the pharisees are up early this morning.


11 posted on 08/28/2012 2:57:12 AM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Waryone

The two factions - Democans and Republicrats - have stopped giving the sheeple a choic. We are given two men to vote against, the lesser bad one wins.

That is no choice, but a well-conceived plan to push the country leftward, into a society where the sheeple are wholly dependant on the government for its existance and survival.

See “Soylent Green”, “1984”, “Brave New World”, etc.


12 posted on 08/28/2012 2:58:24 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Hoodat

I believe the Pharisees were known for duplicity. Do you gave a list of crimes or was that a lie?


13 posted on 08/28/2012 3:25:37 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey Low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“That evening, Dad said, “Everything I heard today is true. But, because of racism I suffered in my youth, I can not turn against Obama.”

I had a black kid pull a piece of broken glass on me in Jr. High school. A black janitor spit on my head as I walked by him at an industry show I attended as an engineer after college. There was no verbal altercation in either case. I was guilty of being a “cracker”.

Eric Holder has now endorsed racism against whites supported by the most powerful government on earth.

I am blessed that my savior to protect me from this is the greatest warrior ever - Jesus Christ. Those who kneel before Him can stand up to any devil. Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God.

I make no moral distinction between racists who abuse people with their power, and the phoney, deluded “Christians” who enable them with their votes.


14 posted on 08/28/2012 3:25:49 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: muir_redwoods

I’m on your side here. I recall the pharisees were known for accusing others of crimes.


15 posted on 08/28/2012 3:30:54 AM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Hoodat

I see, it is early. Thanks


16 posted on 08/28/2012 3:36:21 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey Low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Lloyd Marcus
How do you respectfully tell your usually character-driven parent that his decision to support Obama, no matter what, is rooted in racism and a refusal to forgive?

Perhaps point out words in the "Our Father" .."forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us." Perhaps point out our Lord's last words... "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do."

17 posted on 08/28/2012 3:49:58 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: MikeSteelBe

“Eric Holder has now endorsed racism against whites supported by the most powerful government on earth.”

This started long before these thugs were in high places; affirmative action has been the law of the land for years, and accepted by sheeple. As long as that is accepted (that it is OK to deny white men higher education and jobs because they are white men), you will see the demographic nightmare continue as whites are unable to raise families. They are being replaced by Latinos and Asians, without a peep from hardly anyone in high places; they threw away a country without a fight.


18 posted on 08/28/2012 3:52:53 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
How do you respectfully tell your usually character-driven parent that his decision to support Obama, no matter what, is rooted in racism and a refusal to forgive?

It is not only rooted in racism but on a false narrative. It was the democrats who stood in the school house doors to block black integration not Republicans. It was the democrat party that blocked all civil rights legislation. Democrats enacted the Jim Crow laws and on and on. If the truth be known not one black would vote for a democrat.

19 posted on 08/28/2012 3:53:51 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: stpio

Actually, it is that we have allowed to be taken out of the Public Square...God.

The worship isn’t so much about 0bama or Romney...it is about the government.

When the government uses taxes to determine your charitable giving...who/what are you worshipping?


20 posted on 08/28/2012 4:08:34 AM PDT by EBH (Obama took away your American Dreams and replaced them with "Dreams from My (his) Father".)
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To: MikeSteelBe
......Eric Holder has now endorsed racism against whites supported by the most powerful government on earth.......

It's all about the socialism! First, foremost and always -- the socialism. "Victim groups" are the drawers they pull open to grab power.

21 posted on 08/28/2012 4:11:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: stpio; All
Post Script thoughts

“Thou shalt have no other gods before me” Exodus 20:3

“And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.” Mark 12:17

So just exactly what belongs to Caesar these days?

In Mark 12 the follow-up to verse 17 is very telling. Whose portrait is on the coin AND the inscription...

Our money carries a very flummoxing conclusion for us. We have pictures of Presidents(Casear)and the inscription is what? In God We Trust.

22 posted on 08/28/2012 4:26:08 AM PDT by EBH (Obama took away your American Dreams and replaced them with "Dreams from My (his) Father".)
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To: F15Eagle
The symbol fits... the sign of the mangina.

LLS

23 posted on 08/28/2012 4:29:06 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Sarah speaking at the romney convention would be like Led Zeppelin opening for The Monkees)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A poll claims that Romney will receive zero percent of the black vote.

Just how STUPID is THAT poll?

Haven't they ever heard of BLACK Mormons?

Haven't they ever heard of Gladys Knight?

Sure; they might be torn between voting their race or voting their religion; but HEY!

Welcome to the problem of Evangelical Christians who are facing the choice of a deceived (or deceiving) MORMON and a Marxist/Muslim!

24 posted on 08/28/2012 4:31:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: muir_redwoods

“Could I get a list of Romney’s crimes please? I’m not interested in doctrinal differences, just the actual crimes you have alleged. Thanks”

~ ~ ~

I’ll share but first understand there are crimes against God. Murder is a crime, lying is a crime.

Romney has a career in politics purguring himself over and over again, promising whoever the electorate is of his change to get their vote. He has flip flopped on abortion four times! He promised Massachusetts to be pro-abortion and delivered with provision for abortion in RomneyCare. Romney continues to support sodomy like abortion is a crime against God Himself. Catholic Adoption services in Massachusetts had to close, for Romney’s support of homosexual adoption.

I could only see Mitt’s actions, no change in them, murder of the most innocent and sodomy. I can’t vote for Romney. Someone here at FR pointed out Romney has changed, he vetoed the morning after pill in Massachusetts and now, this has proved to be another con.

from Mark Shea’s blog:

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You write: that Romney “pioneered the assault on Catholic conscience when he was Gov of Mass by forcing Catholic hospitals to dispense the Morning After Pill.”

That’s incorrect.

Romney vetoed the legislation in July 2005. And for that he ought to be commended. On Sept. 15, 2005, the Legislature overrode his veto and the measure became law. Not sure what else he could do at that point.
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Mark Shea says:
August 24, 2012 at 11:52 am

He vetoed it SECURE in the knowledge that his veto would be overriden. Then this happened: http://townhall.com/columnists/terryjeffrey/2012/02/02/creators_oped/page/full/

“On Dec. 7, 2005, a week before the law was to take effect, the Boston Globe ran a piece headlined: “Private Hospitals Exempt on Pill Law.” The article said the state Department of Public Health had determined that the emergency contraception law “does not nullify a statute passed years ago that says privately run hospitals cannot be forced to provide abortions or contraception.”

Public Health Commissioner Paul Cote Jr. told the Globe: “We felt very clearly that the two laws don’t cancel each other out and basically work in harmony with each other.”

Romney spokesman Fehrnstrom told the Globe that Romney agreed with the Department of Public Health on the issue. The governor, he said, “respects the views of health care facilities that are guided by moral principles on this issue.”

“The staff of DPH did their own objective and unbiased legal analysis,” Romney’s spokesman told the Globe. “The brought it to us, and we concur in it.”

The Globe itself ruefully bowed to this legal analysis. It ran an editorial headlined: “A Plan B Mistake.” “The legislators failed, however,” the Globe said, “to include wording in the bill explicitly repealing a clause in an older statute that gives hospitals the right, for reasons of conscience, not to offer birth control services.”

Liberals joined in attacking Romney’s defense of Catholic hospitals. But that defense did not last long.

The same day the Globe ran its editorial, Romney held a press conference. Now he said his legal counsel had advised him the new emergency contraception law did trump the 1975 conscience law.

“On that basis, I have instructed the Department of Public Health to follow the conclusion of my own legal counsel and to adopt that sounder view,” Romney said. “In my personal view, it’s the right thing for hospitals to provide information and access to emergency contraception to anyone who is a victim of rape.””

Vote for the Sucks Less ticket if you must. But for the love of God stop making excuses for his betrayals and start putting some pressure on *them* to keep the promises and not on Catholics to stop demanding they keep their promises.


25 posted on 08/28/2012 4:32:03 AM PDT by stpio
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A poll claims that Romney will receive zero percent of the black vote.

Now just WHY would that be?

Don't blacks KNOW that all of the following was way back in Mitt's distant past??





"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.



Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'



August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)



1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."



We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.



Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).



When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."



When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)





Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.

 

“I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.

At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.

One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.

 

(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)

 



 

26 posted on 08/28/2012 4:33:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LibLieSlayer

27 posted on 08/28/2012 4:33:17 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: All

P.S. to All: we can’t know who the Antichrist really is until he is revealed and confirms a covenant for seven years that divides the land of Israel, and by “peace” shall he destroy many.


28 posted on 08/28/2012 4:34:56 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A poll claims that Romney will receive zero percent of the black vote.

Don't be blamin' Romney for what his GOD had done!

After all; Mitt fervently believed all the above until he was 32 years old; then he promptly switched when the Living Prophet© (and the Quorum of 12) made their proclamation in 1978.

29 posted on 08/28/2012 4:36:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
... the Living Prophet© (and the Quorum of 12) made their proclamation in 1978.




Official Declaration—2

 

To Whom It May Concern:

On 30 September 1978, at the 148th Semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the following was presented by President N. Eldon Tanner, First Counselor in the First Presidency of the Church:

In early June of this year, the First Presidency announced that a revelation had been received by President Spencer W. Kimball extending priesthood and temple blessings to all worthy male members of the Church. President Kimball has asked that I advise the conference that after he had received this revelation, which came to him after extended meditation and prayer in the sacred rooms of the holy temple, he presented it to his counselors, who accepted it and approved it. It was then presented to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, who unanimously approved it, and was subsequently presented to all other General Authorities, who likewise approved it unanimously.

President Kimball has asked that I now read this letter:

June 8, 1978
To all general and local priesthood officers of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints throughout the world:
Dear Brethren:

As we have witnessed the expansion of the work of the Lord over the earth, we have been grateful that people of many nations have responded to the message of the restored gospel, and have joined the Church in ever-increasing numbers. This, in turn, has inspired us with a desire to extend to every worthy member of the Church all of the privileges and blessings which the gospel affords.

Aware of the promises made by the prophets and presidents of the Church who have preceded us that at some time, in God’s eternal plan, all of our brethren who are worthy may receive the priesthood, and witnessing the faithfulness of those from whom the priesthood has been withheld, we have pleaded long and earnestly in behalf of these, our faithful brethren, spending many hours in the Upper Room of the Temple supplicating the Lord for divine guidance.

He has heard our prayers, and by revelation has confirmed that the long-promised day has come when every faithful, worthy man in the Church may receive the holy priesthood, with power to exercise its divine authority, and enjoy with his loved ones every blessing that flows therefrom, including the blessings of the temple. Accordingly, all worthy male members of the Church may be ordained to the priesthood without regard for race or color. Priesthood leaders are instructed to follow the policy of carefully interviewing all candidates for ordination to either the Aaronic or the Melchizedek Priesthood to insure that they meet the established standards for worthiness.

We declare with soberness that the Lord has now made known his will for the blessing of all his children throughout the earth who will hearken to the voice of his authorized servants, and prepare themselves to receive every blessing of the gospel.

Sincerely yours,
Spencer W. Kimball
N. Eldon Tanner
Marion G. Romney
The First Presidency

Recognizing Spencer W. Kimball as the prophet, seer, and revelator, and president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, it is proposed that we as a constituent assembly accept this revelation as the word and will of the Lord. All in favor please signify by raising your right hand. Any opposed by the same sign.

The vote to sustain the foregoing motion was unanimous in the affirmative.

Salt Lake City, Utah, September 30, 1978.

30 posted on 08/28/2012 4:38:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
... extending priesthood and temple blessings to all worthy male members of the Church.

Hang in there, ladies; as the MORMON god just may change it's mind again soon...

31 posted on 08/28/2012 4:39:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“Black Christians are faced with a crucial choice: Jesus or Obama. I pray that come November, a majority of Black Christians will not yell, ‘Give us skin color!’”

OK, my guess is only 94% of Blacks will vote for Dear Leader because of his race instead of 100%.

32 posted on 08/28/2012 4:40:31 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Incredibly, some blacks have completely forsaken their Christianity for Obama.

Sadly; some Catholics have completely forsaken their Christianity for Obama; as well as a lot of other folks who had very little knowledge of what they 'believed'.

33 posted on 08/28/2012 4:40:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: F15Eagle
Many of them (and others) chose the Devil Obama over Jesus Christ in 2008.

And NOW we appear to be going to have a Tewmple Worthy® MORMON tossed in to 'choose' from as well!

34 posted on 08/28/2012 4:43:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stpio

(We are gonna get in trouble in THIS thread!)


35 posted on 08/28/2012 4:44:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion
IMHO the effect of a decision not to vote for Obama is more likely to lead to a decision not to vote, or a failure to decide to vote.

Therefore (at least according to some rabid ABO's on FR) a vote NOT for OBAMA is a vote for ROMNEY!

36 posted on 08/28/2012 4:46:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Hoodat
I see that the pharisees are up early this morning.

Along with the followers of a FALSE prophet/teacher.

37 posted on 08/28/2012 4:47:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

and the snake handlers


38 posted on 08/28/2012 4:49:06 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Hoodat
I see that the pharisees are up early this morning.

(Don't call MORMONs that - they'll get really entrenched in their VICTIM mode and grow reluctant to defend the heresy that calls itself MORMONism.)

39 posted on 08/28/2012 4:49:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: stpio

You said “crimes”. Now you’re waffling by changing your words to mean “sin”. At the age of eight, I understood that to be lying.

Unless you can produce a list of crimes, you lied and that’s a sin. There’s the difference.


40 posted on 08/28/2012 4:50:47 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey Low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: Waryone
It should be easier because blacks tend to be more anti-gay agenda than whites and don’t have the guilt other people seem to have about being against gay marriage

It "should" be but it isn't. Moxst African americans see themselves as Black first. Look at all the Black Busninesses that were destroyed in the LA Riots. Obama could Murder their father,steal their money, sleep with their sister, while having his clothes washed by their mother and most would still say "Hey give the Brother another chance."

41 posted on 08/28/2012 4:51:03 AM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: Elsie
Sadly; some Catholics have completely forsaken their Christianity for Obama; as well as a lot of other folks who had very little knowledge of what they 'believed'.

OOps...

Sadly; some Catholics have completely forsaken their Christianity for Obama MORMONism; as well as a lot of other folks who had very little knowledge of what they 'believed'.

42 posted on 08/28/2012 4:56:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bert

Geet on the grill.


43 posted on 08/28/2012 4:57:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga

About 90% of African-Americans will place the god of black racism above any other.

The black racist makes most white racists look like a flower child.

If you work for the government in a job that engages affirmative action hires, you will get your eyes opened ———fast.


44 posted on 08/28/2012 4:58:00 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Elsie

The White Horse “prophecy” thing isn’t lost on me either, given Revelation 6:2.

I know it’s going to come, of course, since it has been foretold.

And I’m still expecting some sort of September-October Surprise from Bammy if he thinks he’s gonna lose. He’s running out of time to get it in August.

Though the illegal thing was a gambit to buy votes, most certainly.


45 posted on 08/28/2012 4:58:52 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: bert

Geet on the grill.


46 posted on 08/28/2012 5:00:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bert
and the snake handlers

I gots onea dem!!


47 posted on 08/28/2012 5:02:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: muir_redwoods
Now you’re waffling by changing your words to mean “sin”.

MORMONism has 'changed' a LOT of words of Christianity to mean something else.

Would a list of some of them be ok?

48 posted on 08/28/2012 5:04:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: F15Eagle
And I’m still expecting some sort of September-October Surprise from Bammy if he thinks he’s gonna lose.

I'm waiting for revelation out of Tampa by someone who thinks he's gonna win.

49 posted on 08/28/2012 5:06:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Matthew 12:34
50 posted on 08/28/2012 5:15:44 AM PDT by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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