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Romney's Agents Stage Coup at GOP Convention
Conservative HQ ^ | 8/27/12 | Richard A. Viguerie

Posted on 08/28/2012 5:17:51 AM PDT by xzins

Fresh from the 2010 Tea Party wave that brought millions of new conservative voters into the Republican ranks and restored the GOP to control of the House of Representatives, Washington’s Republican political class is wasting no time in ensuring that the same grassroots conservative voters who have brought them to the threshold of capturing all three branches of government are permanently frozen out of influence in the Republican Party apparatus.

In response, grassroots conservatives have launched an unprecedented Rules fight that threatens to up-end the carefully choreographed coronation of Mitt Romney.

The Rules Committee report, which is set to be adopted Tuesday, includes Rules changes that shift the balance of power away from state and local Republican committees, who elect delegates to the National Convention every four years, in favor of DC’s permanent political class.

The Rules changes would:

Principled conservative Republican Party leaders Morton Blackwell of Virginia and Jim Bopp of Indiana are spearheading the drive to gather the votes necessary to adopt a Minority Rules Report and defeat the proposed rules changes on the floor during Tuesday’s procedural sessions.

To read Morton Blackwell’s letter to Republican National Convention delegates go here http://mranalogblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Morton-RNC-Letter.pdf

To read Jim Bopp’s email to Republican National Convention delegates go here:

http://www.conservativehq.com/article/9513-james-bopp-jr-letter

Indiana’s National Committeeman, James Bopp, who also serves as Vice Chairman of the Republican National Committee, said in an email to delegates, “This is the biggest power grab in the history of the Republican Party because it shifts the power to select delegates from the state party to the candidate. And it would make the Republican Party a top down, not bottom up party.”

Virginia’s Morton Blackwell, a member of the Republican National Committee’s Standing Committee on Rules and on the National Convention's Committee on Rules and Order of Business said these are “rules changes that could fundamentally change our Republican Party -- and not for the better.”

Blackwell noted that DC election lawyer Ben Ginsberg brought these proposals to the Rules Committee where “he represented himself as the leader on the Committee for the Romney Campaign.”

Ginsberg, Blackwell observed, had earlier this year worked for conservative Congresswoman Michele Bachmann’s presidential campaign, “is unencumbered by principle.”  “After working for Bachmann’s grassroots campaign he is advocating Rules that would centralize power, restrain and eliminate grassroots influence and create a top-down, rather than bottom-up Party – the very antithesis of what allowed a candidate like Michele Bachmann to run,” said Blackwell.

RNC Vice Chairman Bopp dismissed any notion that the Rules changes had an ideological motivation, noting that they represent “a threat to both moderates and conservatives who could be purged, depending on who is the Republican Presidential nominee” and that to preserve the bottom-up nature of the Party the issues raised should be taken care of by changes to state laws and state GOP rules governing the selection of their state’s delegates to the national convention.

To oppose this power grab by Washington’s permanent political class grassroots GOP activists must shine the light of day on this behind the scenes power grab; call your Republican National Convention delegates, blog about, email it to your friends and contacts, post it on your Facebook page and social media sites and call your local and national conservative talk radio programs.


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These rules do NOT have the best interests of grassroots conservatives at heart.

They are designed to cut any influence by normal republicans from all important processes.

Finally, whether adopted or not, THEY SHOW THE HEART of the liberals running the Romney show.


1 posted on 08/28/2012 5:17:55 AM PDT by xzins
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To: Jim Robinson; wagglebee; P-Marlowe; cripplecreek; cva66snipe; Elvina; Finny; greyfoxx39; Hilda; ...
Only one purpose in this: stop reform of a system that allows 2-3 states to choose the republican candidate.
2 posted on 08/28/2012 5:22:35 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
Never Romney or any other RINO.

Gary Johnson, because he ain't Romney or Obama

3 posted on 08/28/2012 5:23:15 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: SERE_DOC

I know someone who lives in Ohio who is backing and organizing for Gary Johnson knowing that votes in Ohio for Johnson are really votes for Obama.


4 posted on 08/28/2012 5:26:55 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: SERE_DOC

plus Gary Johnson wants to legalize pot.


5 posted on 08/28/2012 5:26:55 AM PDT by Perdogg (Mutts for Mitt all agree - Better in the crate than on the plate)
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To: xzins

There was no coup. The issue has been resolved as of 12 hours ago.


6 posted on 08/28/2012 5:27:48 AM PDT by Perdogg (Mutts for Mitt all agree - Better in the crate than on the plate)
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To: xzins

It appears that there is a compromise but I don’t trust the establishment. They’re just regrouping and rearming.


7 posted on 08/28/2012 5:28:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: xzins
LOL...are we still anybody but 0bama?

The GOP shows their hand. The grassroots must really have them scared if they are willing to take away the power of the people...their constituents.

LOL..are we still “no third party?”

If they are so afraid we could upend nomination events...are we close enough to truly tell them to go to hell in a hand-basket yet?

8 posted on 08/28/2012 5:29:03 AM PDT by EBH (Obama took away your American Dreams and replaced them with "Dreams from My (his) Father".)
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To: SERE_DOC

NSDQ!


9 posted on 08/28/2012 5:29:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins
The GOP is a club and therefore not bound by a Constitution but by self-made rules (see other governments for examples).

Romney is just being the big dog in the fight.

Isn't becoming to whine about losing.

10 posted on 08/28/2012 5:29:22 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (All Y'all White Peoples is racist!)
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To: cripplecreek; Perdogg; EBH; SERE_DOC

compromise or not, read the 3 points above and see what is in the HEART of the romney/gop-e camp.

They have a dictatorial spirit operating within them.


11 posted on 08/28/2012 5:32:02 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Why would a conservative want to lock the tea party out?


12 posted on 08/28/2012 5:34:26 AM PDT by deadrock
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To: Bigtigermike; JediJones

(((((PING)))))


13 posted on 08/28/2012 5:35:50 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: EBH
Nearly 50 years later and they still want to use George Romney's "Anti Extremist" playbook.

GOP Warned to beware of extremists, may destoy republicans; Romney(1964)

Story at upper left.
14 posted on 08/28/2012 5:36:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Aevery_Freeman
Isn't becoming to whine about losing.

It isn't becoming to slurp elitists in public, either. RNC (and their ballwashers) can KMA.

15 posted on 08/28/2012 5:37:58 AM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts once lead the American Revolution. Under Mitt Romney, it lead the demise.)
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To: xzins
Wake up, FReepers. There is only one political party in America. It has a left and a right wing, but it is ONE PARTY. If conservatives ever want to stop America from its march toward Socialism, we have to form a third party.

Anything else is suicide.

16 posted on 08/28/2012 5:38:47 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Democrats new name = The CSA - The Communist/Satanic/Anti-American Party)
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To: xzins

I don’t trust them a bit but is they want to commit party suicide, they need to do it out in the open.


17 posted on 08/28/2012 5:39:27 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Perdogg

How did they resolve it?


18 posted on 08/28/2012 5:41:15 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: xzins

Let’s hope Paul Ryan will say everything Romney won’t.


19 posted on 08/28/2012 5:43:45 AM PDT by ExxonPatrolUs ("Trizzle, trazzle, trozzle, trome, time for this one to come home" - Mr Wizard)
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To: Perdogg

Is Rule 12 still in the document? If so, then nothing is resolved.


20 posted on 08/28/2012 5:45:26 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: xzins

I said this many months ago...

the election of mcromney will mark the end of the conservative / constitutionalist movement..

His goal is to destroy those that do not agree with him, as is the gop-e..

the democrat socialist and the republican socialist have one thing in common... the destruction of the constitutionalist movement..

so, which socialist is better for us?


21 posted on 08/28/2012 5:46:39 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: Perdogg; xzins
i>There was no coup. The issue has been resolved as of 12 hours ago.

Yes and in favor of the Texas delegation hours.

22 posted on 08/28/2012 5:47:23 AM PDT by Doofer (Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.)
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To: xzins

He won the Primary, he gets to set the rules. My guess is this is more Paulite sour grapes. Ron Paul lost get over it.

Pray for America


23 posted on 08/28/2012 5:48:49 AM PDT by bray (The Gummit didn't make my business, God did!)
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To: freekitty

they took away the independence of delegates


24 posted on 08/28/2012 5:51:12 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: bray

read the 3 rules they wanted, bray. Are you ok with that?


25 posted on 08/28/2012 5:52:19 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: bray
He won the Primary, he gets to set the rules. My guess is this is more Paulite sour grapes. Ron Paul lost get over it.

Childish Alinsy tactic but I agree, if your party wants to commit suicide, we should let them.
26 posted on 08/28/2012 5:53:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

If isn’t becoming when you treat people like crap then whine when they don’t vote for you.


27 posted on 08/28/2012 5:56:30 AM PDT by DManA
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To: xzins; bray

Ok. A few things. There is no independence for the delegates. Their states voted for them to vote a certain way. To do so, should get them fired. They are selected, not elected.

The GOP Primary is already screwed up. You didn’t state what they wanted to change it to, so I don’t have an opinion on that. I’m all for changing it. It’s horrible.

I probably would be against the changing of rules between conventions without a vote. But I’d have to see more info on it.


28 posted on 08/28/2012 5:57:30 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
ExxonPatrolUs @19: "Let’s hope Paul Ryan will say everything Romney won’t."

Ryan has already modified his economic priorities to fit those of Mitt's economic plan. Ryan, formerly a staunch pro-life advocate (along with Akin), has shifted so that he now stands with Mitt on allowing abortion for (alleged) rape cases.

If Mittens is elected, VP Ryan will be sent to the hinterlands faster than Kennedy made LBJ vanish after the 1960 election (or stripped for a WH sex orgy). Party loyalty won't save him. Pack your pajamas, Paul; it'll be a long trip.

29 posted on 08/28/2012 5:58:19 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: xzins

Over before it started.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/27/opponents-defeat-feared-power-grab/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS


30 posted on 08/28/2012 5:58:52 AM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: xzins
Drew McKissick is a longtime conservative activist and blogger who is in attendance at the Republican National Convention’s Rules Committee meetings. He and others on the ground are sounding the alarm over rules changes that he and many other attendees believe will hurt grass-roots movement conservatives. The battle is being cast by some observers as a narrow fight between Ron Paul advocates and the rest of the party. Drew says that’s not true. And many other state delegations who oppose top-down delegate choices are chiming in.

(Malkin) Floor fight: Grass-roots activists battle attempt to rig GOP convention delegate rules Updated: Party bosses offer olive branch; “tense,” “dynamic” situation; Palin: “direct attack on the grass-roots”
31 posted on 08/28/2012 5:59:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: xzins

They look like rules to get rid of the phony Paulite delegates that were scammed into the Convention. Do you think it was right that RP got 5% of the vote yet half the Delegates in my state?

He was trying to use the Convention to get elected and bypass the Primary process by scamming his delegates onto the floor. Do you think RP should be the nominee by manipulating the Convention, I don’t.


32 posted on 08/28/2012 6:01:17 AM PDT by bray (The Gummit didn't make my business, God did!)
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To: xzins

It didn’t take long for Wrongney’s true colors to come out, did it?


33 posted on 08/28/2012 6:01:17 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: cripplecreek

The rule change was for 2016; it has died.

An old friend of mine is a delegate at the convention. I wrote him about this issue and how it could lead to a severe rift in the party, possibly leading to its destruction. That was late last night; no answer yet.

Silencing the Tea Party’s influence will be the death knell for the Republicans. Perhaps, in some ways, that’s not a bad thing. Sarah is ready and waiting to start a third party if the republicans screw up this election.


34 posted on 08/28/2012 6:01:49 AM PDT by Loud Mime (I'll claim I speak for God only after I do acid, a few lines of coke and half a bottle of bourbon.)
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To: Loud Mime

I dont believe the fight is quite over yet.


35 posted on 08/28/2012 6:03:12 AM PDT by elephant
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To: Loud Mime
The rule change was for 2016; it has died.

And the muslim horde has been defeated. lol
36 posted on 08/28/2012 6:04:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: TheRhinelander

They expect big trouble from pseudo-republicans (not rinos) in the next few years. The crossover voter primaries are setting the foundation.

Something to think about.


37 posted on 08/28/2012 6:12:23 AM PDT by Loud Mime (I'll claim I speak for God only after I do acid, a few lines of coke and half a bottle of bourbon.)
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To: xzins

The RNC has historically been a confederation of the state/territorial parties, with each state/territory electing a national committeeman, national committeewoman, and state chairman. These three are the actual Members of the RNC. Each state/territory has equal weight, so liberal Republicans from CT or RI have as much influence as paleos from TX or GA. That’s the usual grumble on the right.

The core institutional responsibility of the RNC and, by extension, all RNC Members, is to support duly nominated Republican candidates. Paleo, RINO, or in between should make no difference. If you have an R after your name, the RNC should support you in the general. Most of us are prepared to accept the rare exception when something truly weird happens in a primary, or when someone Akins himself, but the exceptions should be few and far between. And once the presidential nominee is decided, the RNC is supposed to become his vehicle, period.

That system has served us reasonably well over time. Does anyone know what is motivating the desire for change?


38 posted on 08/28/2012 6:14:35 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: xzins
Finally, whether adopted or not, THEY SHOW THE HEART of the liberals running the Romney show.
  • allow presidential campaigns to, in essence, “fire” duly elected delegates they don’t like and replace them with individuals of their own choosing
As odious as that first bullet point is. How would you like this:

Now that's pretty undemocratic and downright dictatorial, isn't it. Yet that's what happened in Illinois from 1999-2000 through 2008. And the executor of those dictatorial orders was none other than Karl Rove!! First from Dubya's Campaign then from the White House.

Rove had a special close friend, KJ, who basically ran the IL GOP Board. But KJ turned out to be a FELON and crony of Democrat Blago and is now sitting in Federal Prison for collusion on a Blago Bond sale scam. But that didn't stop Rove, no siree. When KJ was under federal indictment, Rove appointed his FELON friend KJ as Treasurer of the 2004 GOP Convention. (These are the facts, not something I dreamed up.)

Now I'm sure that Rove had many special close friends like that in other states too and similar things occurred. So what's now being made public with delegates was basically happening with Candidates who would be allowed to run. Heck just think back of some of Rove's comments about Tea Party candidates. He detests them all.

Yes. I have NO LOVE for Karl Rove. He gave IL to the RATS! For the previous 20-30 years Republicans ran the high offices of IL! Mostly Governor/Lt Gov and like Sec of State, and that kept the Daley Machine somewhat in check.
39 posted on 08/28/2012 6:17:17 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: cripplecreek

And perhaps we should destroy the GOP. Warning them of it? Maybe we’ve waited several decades too long to do what needed be done then.


40 posted on 08/28/2012 6:20:35 AM PDT by EBH (Obama took away your American Dreams and replaced them with "Dreams from My (his) Father".)
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To: sphinx
I think it has its roots in changes being made at the state level. Saul Anuzis was recently removed from his national committee chair after he voted to change the rules AFTER the primary in Michigan to save Romney the indignity of the tie that it was.

We won!!! (May 2012)

Conservatives working in unison at the State Republican Convention sent a message to the establishment loud and clear: "It's our turn!"...No more `business as usual' politics orchestrated to appease the political masses with hollow claims of conservatism and principles each election cycle, only to disappear into the maze of lobbyists and special interests in the interim...This time, the false claims of an election year cycle fell on deaf ears, conservatism ruled the day...Libertarians, Tea Partiers, and true Republican conservatives unified in one of the most sweeping upsets of the incumbent power brokers I have seen in my lifetime...they have sent both the State and National GOP a clear ultimatum...This time we will not be silent, nor ignored, nor brushed aside...

The sort of behavior that led to the removal of Anuzis.

The Michigan Republican Party (MRP) Credentials Committee voted 4-2 last night to give Mitt Romney both of the state's at-large delegates, State Policy Committee Chair Mike Cox told MIRS today.

Cox was one of two "no" votes on the committee which met via telephone, along with attorney Eric Doster The "yes" votes included GOP National Committeeman Saul Anuzis, a Romney supporter, and MRP Chair Bobby Schostak.

That would put the delegate split at 16 for Romney and 14 for Rick Santorum, after each candidate won 14 delegates apiece in those divided by Michigan's 14 congressional districts.

As MIRS first reported on Wednesday, the MRP was delaying a final decision on the delegate split until after consulting with attorneys.

Cox said that according to the MRP rules, Santorum and Romney should each get one of Michigan's two at-large delegates based on their take of the popular vote.

"I supported Mitt, but the vote was clearly wrong," Cox said of the Credentials Committee. "It's kind of like Third World voting. We published rules and then we voted to change the rules."


Because The Narrative Cannot Survive A Rewrite
41 posted on 08/28/2012 6:23:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: joesbucks
Yea that tired old saying that if you vote for someone other than what the rest of the stupid people are voting for the one you don't want in will get in......

Like that really means something to someone who stands for something.

The GOPe have put forth this POS Romney.

I frankly am tired of having to eat that crap sandwich that the GOP feeds everyone. Never again, there is no difference between the two parties, and if you believe there is, then be happy and vote for whom ever.

I just choose to use MY vote for the candidate of MY choice. instead of pissing it away on what who will lead the country down farther the path we are on now, perhaps slower than what we are on now.

But inevitability the same path same tyranny.

42 posted on 08/28/2012 6:26:37 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: xzins

You should knock this veal off or join the obama campaign.


43 posted on 08/28/2012 6:28:35 AM PDT by pgkdan (A vote for anyone but Romney is a vote for obama...got that? u)
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To: bray

if there is something wrong with the Oregon rules, the Oregon GOP should fix them. National should not dictate this.


44 posted on 08/28/2012 6:32:36 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: xzins
But were they secret agents?
45 posted on 08/28/2012 6:40:49 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: Perdogg

Mr. RomneyCARE has the soul of Ted Kennedy
and broaches absolutely NO discussion of conservative
issues. Mr. RomneyCARE is not in this to WIN,
but to only make money, again.


46 posted on 08/28/2012 6:42:04 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session."- Mark Twain)
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To: justice14

The rules they wanted to be in place are listed above in 3 bullets in the main article.

Yes, there was independence for delegates. The reason for the rules change is that Paul’s tactic apparently was correct. He COULD have delegates vote for their choice. It is the national election in which they were pledged.

The compromise is just that: a requirement to vote for whom pledged. I think in a primary campaign to nominate the best candidate that such a rule is very short-sighted. The whole point of a primary is to discover who the candidates are. If something comes out on one of them right at the end of the process, then delegates need not to be pledged but free to vote the best decision.


47 posted on 08/28/2012 6:42:33 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: bray
Do you think RP should be the nominee by manipulating the Convention, I don’t.

I think the independence of delegates is very important at the nominating level.

48 posted on 08/28/2012 6:45:32 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

That’s a dangerous precedent as well. Say it was Palin or some real conservative that won the primary. Then comes to convention and then Romney pulls a coup and delegates go for him. You happy with that?


49 posted on 08/28/2012 6:52:19 AM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: VeniVidiVici

secret agent man
they’ve given you a number
and taken ‘way your name.


50 posted on 08/28/2012 6:53:29 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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