I sure haven't attacked Marines. I did take exception to you attacking a SEAL who is as damn concerned as I am about what is happening. A BILLION rounds plus to Fed Gov agencies. Military training with civil law enforcement who are already too militarized.
I would respect you more if you were a little less comfortable with all that.
For the benefit of the doubt, once again, thanks for your service. Your oath still stands. That means you are on my side.
Please re-read this thread where I specifically stated I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
Military training with civil law enforcement who are already too militarized.
Again, please see earlier in the thread where I stated I AGREE THE POLICE ARE TOO MILITARIZED. I gave very specific, very limited reasons for why such elements as SWAT should exist and what they should be used for.
I was just saying today, that if it were up to me, there would be no state troopers and no town police; only county sheriffs and that the American people would be by and large responsible for own security and safety on the streets of America.
That said, there are police elements in the US that more than likely have more experience doing SWAT type missions than a bunch of reservists and ergo, the reservists could learn from them and the SWAT teams would receive pertinent and useful training as well.
Which if it is outside of the parameters I laid out; hostage rescue, [legitimate] terror response (stand off with a suicide bomber type of deal), or facing off with Al Capone/the Mexi-Cartel then, I don't agree with them [civ cops] receiving SWAT training. Nor do I agree with having para-military police that are out shooting dogs and doing no-knock raids (which I stated earlier up thread).
I did take exception to you attacking a SEAL
I didn't know he was a SEAL; however, if I were to start loud mouthing and saying the SEALS were turning this country into the USSA because of entities they train with, I would certainly hope he (or any other SEAL) would put me in check and explain why they are doing what they are doing (within classification and OPSEC standards of course). Your oath still stands. That means you are on my side.
I can't believe it took this many posts for you to see that.
Believe it or not, I am about as for limited government as they come. I don't even have the military double standard that I'm for it if it's "defense." There are many military "benefit" programs that I think need to be gotten rid or changed (even sacred cows like some of the tenets of the new GI Bill) because it isn't right and a waste of taxpayer money. And I certainly don't believe in using the military as a police force. I never have - it goes against every principle this country was founded on.
Hell, I even believe that Dixie should've been allowed to peacefully leave without Lincoln's (spit) intervention. I certainly don't believe troops should have been sent in to make us stay....let alone being used as police.