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(CA)Bill to extend 'open carry' law to unloaded rifles sent to Brown
blogs.sacbee.com ^ | 29 August, 2012 | NA

Posted on 08/30/2012 2:47:50 AM PDT by marktwain

Open display of unloaded rifles in public would be banned in California under legislation sent to Gov. Jerry Brown today.

Assembly Bill 1527 cleared the Legislature when the Assembly concurred in amendments, 43-30.

The measure extends an existing "open carry" law that applies to handguns. AB 1527 would not bar possession in unincorporated areas or at a private business, on private property, and or to the carrying of an unloaded rifle in a vehicle's rack.

Some gun-owning Californians have encouraged open display of firearms in recent years as evidence of their constitutional right to bear arms and as a protest against government gun-control laws.

AB 1527 was proposed by Assemblymen Anthony Portantino of La Cañada Flintridge and Tom Ammiano of San Francisco, both Democrats.

Proponents paint the measure as a benefit to public safety, saying the open carry of a firearm creates alarm among bystanders and sparks emergency calls to police officers, who arrive at the scene not knowing if the gun is loaded. Responses can be dangerous to the gun owner or to passers-by, supporters say.

"Frankly, there is no place for an unloaded shotgun on Main Street, California," Portantino said.

Assemblyman Tim Donnelly, R-Twin Peaks, argued against hampering law-abiding Californians who want to peacefully exercise their constitutional right to assemble and to protest by carrying an unloaded rifle in public.

"Do not criminalize more Americans because they believe in the Second Amendment," Donnelly said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ban; banglist; ca; opencarry
Retired law enforcement is excepted. Once Brown signs this, Californians will not be able to carry openly even unloaded guns, and will only be able to carry concealed if a chief law enforcement officer is willing to allow them to do so, at his whim.
1 posted on 08/30/2012 2:48:02 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I pray to God I never have to even visit that state much less live there.


2 posted on 08/30/2012 3:21:43 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: MachIV

We lived there for about 3 years and came back to Wyoming in 1967.


3 posted on 08/30/2012 3:43:39 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: Dan(9698)

I visited Yellowstone last summer and we wound our way back east going south on 89 out of the park and come down through the Great Divide Basin to catch I80 east. That is some seriously desolate country. An easterner unawares could be in a world of hurt even in good weather if stranded there. Much respect.


4 posted on 08/30/2012 4:01:42 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: marktwain
Someone needs to bring a class action civil rights law suit against California for these abridgments of the 2nd Amendment
5 posted on 08/30/2012 4:21:03 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: fella

The CalGuns Foundation is suing the state of Kalifornia over many isues relating to the 2nd Amendment and the abridgements of same by the Kalifornia legislature.

www.calgunsfoundation.org

Please donate! What happens in California soon comes to the rest of the country.


6 posted on 08/30/2012 4:35:12 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: marktwain; Joe Brower

One of the reasons I left Mexicalifornistan.


7 posted on 08/30/2012 5:16:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: CarmichaelPatriot
Thanx for the link.
8 posted on 08/30/2012 5:40:24 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: CarmichaelPatriot
What happens in California soon comes to the rest of the country.

What happens in California soon comes to the rest of the country libtard states.

Please don't count states like AZ, AK, WY, TX, among other as following CA.

9 posted on 08/30/2012 5:50:05 AM PDT by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
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To: marktwain
What part of "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" do these communists in Kommiefornia not understand?

Isn't it about time for the tar and feathers?

10 posted on 08/30/2012 6:23:19 AM PDT by Gritty (Our media is taken over by Obama no less than Hugo Chavez took over media in Venezuela-John Voight)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
"One of the reasons I left Mexicalifornistan."

It is sort of perversely fascinating to watch this state descend in its death-spiral.

At this late stage, with it's myriad of problems (of which this is just one), I don't see any good ending for California. Seeing the approaching cliff, that state's 'leaders' only step harder on the accelerator.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

11 posted on 08/30/2012 6:25:42 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower
At this late stage, with it's myriad of problems (of which this is just one), I don't see any good ending for California. Seeing the approaching cliff, that state's 'leaders' only step harder on the accelerator.

Not so quick. The weather's great and the terrain is beautiful. After communism fails and it returns to some sort of primeval state, it might be a good place for smart people (conservatives) to colonize.

12 posted on 08/30/2012 6:37:31 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: marktwain
Retired law enforcement is excepted. Once Brown signs this, Californians will not be able to carry openly even unloaded guns, and will only be able to carry concealed if a chief law enforcement officer is willing to allow them to do so, at his whim.

And of course state actors and even those with the glow of having been state actors at one time get BETTER treatment than those who pay their salaries and pensions, rather than WORSE treatment as they should have logically assumed when they took the job. D'oh!

13 posted on 08/30/2012 6:39:29 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking
"The weather's great and the terrain is beautiful."

Oh, to hell with the weather and the scenery. I'm so tired of that refrain. I'd rather live in a desert with my freedoms intact.

14 posted on 08/30/2012 6:45:48 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: marktwain
"Frankly, there is no place for an unloaded shotgun on Main Street, California," Portantino said.

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15 posted on 08/30/2012 7:48:28 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: Still Thinking
Concur 100%.

After the flames die down, it can be resettled.

16 posted on 08/30/2012 7:51:54 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: marktwain
Bill to extend 'open carry' law to unloaded rifles sent to Brown

This Brown guy must be dangerous if the legislature is so worried about unloaded rifles sent just to him.

17 posted on 08/30/2012 7:56:04 AM PDT by Hunton Peck (Life, liberty, property, and the means to defend them.)
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To: marktwain

“There is no place for an unloaded shotgun in (downtown) California,...”

The shotgun needs to be LOADED! Been to the liberal decimated CA cities recently?


18 posted on 08/30/2012 7:58:17 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Joe Brower; All
At this late stage, with it's myriad of problems (of which this is just one), I don't see any good ending for California. Seeing the approaching cliff, that state's 'leaders' only step harder on the accelerator.

They expect The Won to come through and build a federal bridge to utopia (with your tax dollars) at the last minute.

Their thought is: If GM is too big to fail, California is way to big to fail!

19 posted on 08/30/2012 7:59:18 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
"They expect The Won to come through and build a federal bridge to utopia (with your tax dollars) at the last minute."

Of that, good sir, I have no doubt.

However, seeing as the FedGov is just as broke as Kali is, I have a feeling that these unwashed hordes are in for a very big disappointment.

20 posted on 08/30/2012 8:43:16 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: MachIV
That is some seriously desolate country.

We hope all who come for a visit get the same impression so they will go home.

We only have 500,000 in the state. We like it like that.

21 posted on 08/30/2012 9:41:08 AM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: OldPossum

Well, read my ENTIRE post and then maybe we can discuss it intelligently. I’m already ready. Please note that I’m not a (current) Kalifornia rezident, as your post seemed to assume.


22 posted on 08/30/2012 10:06:40 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Joe Brower

And to think that back in the summer of 1964, I openly carried a 22 rifle on my shoulder 6 blocks from the hardware store where I bought it to my house. I was 7 yrs old, and this was in Orange, CA. At least I still have the rifle.


23 posted on 08/30/2012 11:19:23 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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To: Still Thinking

I did read the entire post and I agree with what you are getting at. It’s just that those phrases about the wonderment that is the geography of California hack me off. I am sorry. I meant no offense to you.


24 posted on 08/30/2012 3:53:24 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

Oh OK, sorry for misinterpreting your post.


25 posted on 08/30/2012 4:33:05 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Joe Brower
More gun control only bring us closer to Chicago, New York, and every other 'killing field' where the 2A is "infringed".

Police chiefs are politicians, their views reflect the landscape (commiecrats in CA). Not sure about the line officers, some may or may not agree with more controls.

The deaths that occur due to the absence of a defensive weapon rest on their shoulders. Shame on them. Their badges should be ripped from their chicken breasts. Real men don't make it easier for criminals to attack innocent women and children. They bring the fight them whatever that may be.

26 posted on 08/30/2012 6:23:47 PM PDT by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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