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Obama Calls for Amendment Limiting Free-Speech Rights
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Posted on 08/30/2012 12:01:02 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: rawhide
With Judge Roberts now under obamm’s control, this would have no problem clearing the USSC.

He's talking about a Constitutional amendment. The SCOTUS would have nothing to say about whether it was adopted.

61 posted on 08/30/2012 4:06:57 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: KevinDavis
Thank god our founders made it impossible to amend the Constitution.

If it was impossible to amend, we wouldn't have the Bill of Rights. The Founding Fathers made it very difficult to amend. It's better that the amendment process be too difficult for some good amendments to be adopted than be too easy for bad amendments to be adopted.

62 posted on 08/30/2012 4:14:21 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Repeal 16-17; All

There was the prohibition thing..


63 posted on 08/30/2012 4:22:04 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Romney / Ryan 2012)
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To: ExCTCitizen; All

Why don’t you say what you really mean? (smile). You missed O’Bunghole!


64 posted on 08/30/2012 4:31:05 PM PDT by FARS (Be Healthy, Happy and Thrive!)
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To: KevinDavis
There was the prohibition thing.

Yes that was part of a very bad time in the history of Article V: the Progressive Era. A trifecta of crap was added to the Constitution. Unfortunately, only one of the three was repealed. If Article V was too easy to transverse, many more such amendments would be part of the Constitution.

65 posted on 08/30/2012 5:11:34 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Sub-Driver

I’ve been hearing the chorus from some that Romney is just as bad as Obama. Maybe worse. Hmmmm, I’m starting to think that may not actually be true.


66 posted on 08/30/2012 6:23:01 PM PDT by doug from upland (I don't like RINOs, but I love my country more than I hate Romney...Muslim marxist, get out!)
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To: Sub-Driver
One can't help but be reminded of John McCain.

His justification for Campaign Finance "Reform" was that, given a choice between "freedom of speech" and "good government", he'd vote for "good government" every time.

Statists! Both of them!

67 posted on 08/30/2012 6:38:57 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Sub-Driver

Buck Ofama.


68 posted on 08/30/2012 8:13:14 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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I call for limiting that jackass’s chokehold on Liberty.


69 posted on 08/30/2012 8:14:53 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Popman

Google “Publius.”


70 posted on 08/30/2012 8:16:02 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Popman

“The way to fix campaign finance is to make it 100 % transparent...”

I agree 100%.


71 posted on 08/30/2012 11:08:03 PM PDT by juno67 (Gua)
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To: Popman

“The way to fix campaign finance is to make it 100 % transparent...”

I agree 100%.


72 posted on 08/30/2012 11:08:15 PM PDT by juno67 (Gua)
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To: Red Badger

Actually, the same law that was struck down by the Citizens United ruling had the same restrictions on contributions by labor unions as by corporations.


73 posted on 08/30/2012 11:12:23 PM PDT by juno67 (Gua)
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To: ExCTCitizen

You think corporations should have the same rights to influcence U.S. elections as our citizens do, I take it. What about if the corporation is fully owned by Iran, or by Saudi Arabia, or if the corporation gets most of its money from Saudi Arabia or Iran?

We may feel that corporations have the same interests as “We, the people of the United States...”, but I don’t think it is necessarily true. Right now, it is illegal for US political campaigns to accept money from foreigners, because we don’t trust foreigners to have our best interests at heart. Should we strike down this law as well? Likewise, we require our presidents to be native born Americans, right?

Corporations are formed for the purpose of making money and limiting the liability of the owners. Their imperative is to make money regardless; a corporation doesn’t have any sympathy or morals or concerns about what is best for the average person.

Finally, a corporation is not a member of “We, the people.” It cannot vote, cannot hold office, cannot get married....It does not have all the rights and protections of US citizens, nor should it.


74 posted on 08/30/2012 11:28:27 PM PDT by juno67 (Gua)
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To: Tzimisce

“It says ‘Congress shall pass no law,’

It doesn’t say anything about ‘this document only applies to citizens’ - which is probably a good thing or the illegals would be screaming.”

Do you think foreigners and illegals have the same rights under the Constitution as citizens? Then I suppose you think the following should be ruled unconstitutional as well:

“2 U.S.C. § 441e :
(a) Prohibition
It shall be unlawful for -
(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make -
(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of
value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a
contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State,
or local election;
(B) a contribution or donation to a committee of a political
party; or
(C) an expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement
for an electioneering communication (within the meaning of
section 434(f)(3) of this title); or
(2) a person to solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or
donation described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of paragraph (1)
from a foreign national.
(b) “Foreign national” defined
As used in this section, the term “foreign national” means -
(1) a foreign principal, as such term is defined by section
611(b) of title 22, except that the term “foreign national” shall
not include any individual who is a citizen of the United States;
or
(2) an individual who is not a citizen of the United States or
a national of the United States (as defined in section
1101(a)(22) of title 8) and who is not lawfully admitted for
permanent residence, as defined by section 1101(a)(20) of title 8.”


75 posted on 08/31/2012 12:33:31 AM PDT by juno67 (Gua)
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To: juno67

Excuse me.. I was saying that if the FIRST AMENDMENT of the people then where will it stop?? The MARXIST might limit gun rights, put soldiers in our homes and declare the 5th AMENDMENT NULL AND VOID!!


76 posted on 08/31/2012 10:37:07 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!)
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To: Repeal 16-17
Amen and don't forget the Sixteenth!

Hell, there's days I kinda wish they'd toss the 19th as well (I'm only kidding...sort of).

77 posted on 08/31/2012 10:43:50 AM PDT by Marathoner (GTFO: January 21, 2013)
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To: MNGal

That would be the last thing that happens at a Constitutional Convention which I expect would be dominated by the Left.

Only a few Citizens even understand the role of the Senate as originally envisioned or of what Federalism actually means.


78 posted on 08/31/2012 12:29:16 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: juno67
It says "Congress shall pass NO LAW".

No law. None. Can't be done.

If a non-citizen wants to speak inside the borders of the US, it's not a crime. Because Congress can pass no law.

What you have cited should be thrown out as unConstitutional because Congress can pass no law.

I'll give you there are a hand full of examples of speech that are not protected by the first amendment. But citizenship status is not one of them.
79 posted on 08/31/2012 1:05:31 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: juno67

Note that the Constitution does prohibit foreign entities from giving gifts and titles to US politicians.


80 posted on 08/31/2012 1:06:45 PM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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