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U.S. to Israel: If You Attack, We Donít Have Your Back
Arutz Sheva ^ | 30/8/12 | Gil Ronen

Posted on 08/30/2012 1:05:23 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

The U.S. military's top officer made statements Thursday which appear to warn Israel that it should not expect U.S. assistance if it chooses to attack Iran's nuclear weapons program.

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, said such an attack would "clearly delay but probably not destroy Iran's nuclear program," The Guardian reported Thursday. He added: "I don't want to be complicit if they [Israel] choose to do it."

Dempsey said he did not know Iran's nuclear intentions, seeing as intelligence does not reveal intentions. What was clear, he said, was that the "international coalition" applying pressure on Iran "could be undone if [Iran] was attacked prematurely".

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: attack; dempsey; iran; israel; israeliran; kenyanbornmuzzie; martindempsey; noback; nucleariran; obamathejihadist; thirdworldwar
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Whew. What a relief. So we don't have to tell the US anything.
1 posted on 08/30/2012 1:05:30 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

who’s we?


2 posted on 08/30/2012 1:07:26 PM PDT by brivette
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To: brivette

Israel. I’m over here.


3 posted on 08/30/2012 1:08:59 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

I’m worried that the CVG Obama sent to the Gulf is there to interdict any Israeli attack.


4 posted on 08/30/2012 1:12:38 PM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Eleutheria5
"Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, said ... he did not know Iran's nuclear intentions"

Is he for real? Or just playing Mickey the Dunce?

5 posted on 08/30/2012 1:18:12 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Eleutheria5

I believe Israel already knows they are on their own as long as the Muslim is in the White House.

The only Jews who don’t know it are the ones who vote for this piece of dung.,or maybe they know it too and just don’t care.


6 posted on 08/30/2012 1:19:16 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Little Ray

Don’t worry. Elmer Fudd is at it again. Maybe the best thing that could happen to us is a US CVG interdicting Israeli planes right before an election.


7 posted on 08/30/2012 1:20:07 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, said such an attack would "clearly delay but probably not destroy Iran's nuclear program," The Guardian reported Thursday. He added: "I don't want to be complicit if they [Israel] choose to do it."

Delaying Iranian nuclear weapons would be a good thing. A sufficiently long sequence of delays is for all practical purposes the same as destruction. If Iran could count on multiple, extended delays, it would no longer be cost effective to try to build a bomb.

8 posted on 08/30/2012 1:20:11 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Little Ray
"I’m worried that the CVG Obama sent to the Gulf is there to interdict any Israeli attack."

Agree; I said the same thing on another thread a day or two ago. I am afraid that our assets are there to track Israeli submarines, air movements, and intercept intelligence transmissions in order to stop an Israeli attack or leak the information to Iran and other Israeli enemies.

9 posted on 08/30/2012 1:20:34 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Eleutheria5

Hahaha. Good one.

That’s probably why the statement was made. Couldn’t get info and got mad. I thought it’ve been cool if BiBi had been the mystery speaker tonight. What a statement that would have been.

Eastwood will do great though.


10 posted on 08/30/2012 1:21:09 PM PDT by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated populace is the biggest threat to our nation.)
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To: Eleutheria5

11 posted on 08/30/2012 1:23:37 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: Diogenesis

“”Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, said ... he did not know Iran’s nuclear intentions”
Is he for real? Or just playing Mickey the Dunce? “

Martin Dempsey=Worthless Pr**k, and Obama bootlicker.


12 posted on 08/30/2012 1:26:14 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Eleutheria5

I don’t believe Israel ever expected muslim mac daddy to back them up.

Israel must go it alone as long as the muslim mac daddy is soiling the white house with his cowardly presents.

Besides dealing with this minor,in his view, problem would interfere with golfing, vacation, parties, lying to the American public and getting kickback from his friend he lent stimulus money for failed bussines startups.


13 posted on 08/30/2012 1:28:36 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Eleutheria5

Unfortunately, our President doesn’t represent US. Israel should do what it must do to avoid their extermination. Iran has essentially promised to do that. They must be stopped. And as for our general saying it would only slow them down? WHAT THE ‘F’ IS WRONG WITH SLOWING THEM DOWN, DAMNIT!!!


14 posted on 08/30/2012 1:28:53 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: vette6387

a Romney admin will have to schedule a Pentagon enema as a top priority.


15 posted on 08/30/2012 1:29:29 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: Eleutheria5

Frankly, I’d love to see Israel take action on the Friday or Saturday before the election. Let Obama reveal all, before we get to bounce his ass out of our house.


16 posted on 08/30/2012 1:31:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Yet, despite all that he’s done against Israel, Obozo still gets 70% of their votes. Someone ‘splain that to me.


17 posted on 08/30/2012 1:33:28 PM PDT by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: Little Ray

“I’m worried that the CVG Obama sent to the Gulf is there to interdict any Israeli attack.”

He wouldn’t dare because it would end any chance he might have for election and he knows it. OTOH he may know that he’s going to loose already and if that’s the case you could be right. One last strike for his Muzzie brothers.


18 posted on 08/30/2012 1:33:34 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: Eleutheria5

As with most things, as long as Obama is out of the way, things will work out fine.


19 posted on 08/30/2012 1:35:02 PM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: Eleutheria5

General Dempsey would be well advised to revisit Sec State Rice’s speech from last night.


20 posted on 08/30/2012 1:37:36 PM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: vette6387

“”Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, said ... he did not know Iran’s nuclear intentions””

Thanks for your service, General, here’s a commemorative spoon.

Unless you are playing the iranians, you can use the spoon to scrape your tongue after LICKING THEIR BEHINDS.


21 posted on 08/30/2012 1:43:04 PM PDT by Yehuda (http://jewpoint.blogspot.com)
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To: econjack

“Someone ‘splain that to me.”

For the 10,000 th f*cking time, they are marxist Dems who happen to have had Jewish mothers.

They are no more real JEWS than the MILLIONS OF YOUR FELLOW “CHRISTIANS” who were actually responsible for putting an islamo-marxist abortion-loving jackass into the WH in 2008.


22 posted on 08/30/2012 1:45:34 PM PDT by Yehuda (http://jewpoint.blogspot.com)
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To: Little Ray

Precisely, western man created and supported Israel’s return to the mideast. All the western powers supported it’s completion. Now that we have a muslim president, his policies supercede those of the nation. Rest assured, he will continue to use Americas might against American and western interests. I do not know what it will take for America to wake up to this treasonous ass.... but seemingly , use of the military has already gone unnoticed in his take out of Moamar Khadafi in the formation of his North African caliphate. His use of the CVG’s will be the same. Looks like the American fools want to voluntarily walk into their own gas chambers without der fuhrer lifting a finger.


23 posted on 08/30/2012 1:46:31 PM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Eleutheria5

It does not matter what this general says. If Israel attacks Iran they will retaliate against our forces in the ME. What are we going to do? Turn the other cheek? I don’t think so.


24 posted on 08/30/2012 1:49:20 PM PDT by halfright (FAST & FURIOUS! DON'T ALLOW THEM TO DIVERT YOUR ATTENTION.)
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To: vette6387

“Martin Dempsey=Worthless Pr**k, and Obama bootlicker.”

I heard it was more than a boot.


25 posted on 08/30/2012 1:50:20 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: Eleutheria5

What a partisan hack.


26 posted on 08/30/2012 1:52:15 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Eleutheria5

The only question I have is if we don’t do anything will this save us from having to spend money? I have decided that money must be a factor in everything we do from now on because we just hit 16 trillion yesterday. We can’t afford to help every country out there anymore unless they promise to pay for everything we do for them. I would love to stop all foreign aid just until the debt is paid and then we can help people again. If we save in foreign aid, we could really put a big dent in the debt. If we could get it down to 10 trillion in three years (dumping foreign aid), we would be in a much better situation. I know we all have our pet projects, but something has to give. Conservatives are as guilty as everyone else. I remember when they were going to dump the Armed Forces Nascar to save money. The outrage here was amazing. So either we get ourselves serious about the debt or we don’t and we just go into bankruptcy.


27 posted on 08/30/2012 1:57:19 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Israel won’t attack without allied backup, but Bibi is smart enough to know that his sabre rattling has raised the price of crude at least $20 at a time when Obama desperately needs the price at the pump to fall dramatically.

Bibi is controlling the price of oil until his old business partner gets into office. Then they will deal with Iran and Pakistan.


28 posted on 08/30/2012 2:00:22 PM PDT by Mormon Cricket
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To: Eleutheria5
So the jackhole general who said that retired military should keep their opinions to themselves, releases his opinion on Israel V. iran. "I don't want to be complicit if they [Israel] choose to do it."
29 posted on 08/30/2012 2:02:10 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (I can haz CW 2 now?)
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To: Drill Thrawl

He’s speaking, I assume, for the Administration, such as it is.


30 posted on 08/30/2012 2:03:32 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Pollster1
"Delaying Iranian nuclear weapons would be a good thing."

The chicken*hit Arab countries probably wishes Israel would go in and get it down.

One nuclear nation, as Iran wants to be, scares the rest of the Islamic world. I bet they are just as worried that Iran will look at them, too.

Would be of benefit if other Arab countries would go all in (I know-like that would ever happen) with Israel to beat the Iranian nuclear goals.

Then ALL of them can breathe a sigh of relief.

Not really thinking this could happen....Muslim Brotherhood would stand with Iran and the region is chock full of the Brotherhood. And, I do, to some extent, hold BO. They are his friends.

31 posted on 08/30/2012 2:07:52 PM PDT by hummingbird (I CAN CU2!)
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To: Eleutheria5
"Dempsey said he did not know Iran's nuclear intentions, seeing as intelligence does not reveal intentions."

That's intelligence? If the Romans say so...


32 posted on 08/30/2012 2:12:11 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Eleutheria5
Most Americans Support Right of Jews to Live and Build in Judea-Samaria
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/927783/posts
June 10, 2003
"By a margin of nearly five to one, Americans oppose the Bush administration's demand to halt all further Jewish construction in Judea-Samaria (the West Bank) and Gaza . . . The poll, carried out by John McLaughlin & Associates, surveyed a scientific sample of 1,000 American adults on May 21, 2003.

And most of those of the one-in-six are mostly members of families that came from southern Europe only within the last 100 years or so, yet they now have disproportionate control in politics. [Not talking about Jewish people there. Talking about others.]


33 posted on 08/30/2012 2:20:23 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Little Ray

I think that a rather large IAF strike would overwhelm the CVBG’s BARCAP. An E2C and a couple of sections of SuperHornets that probably aren’t cleared to shoot beforehand? Nah!

The CVBG is there to get between the Gulf States and any Iranian retaliation. Keep the Straits of Hormuz open in case the Iranians try to escalate.


34 posted on 08/30/2012 2:29:03 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Truth29

A US CV doesn’t have it’s own fixed wing ASW aircraft any longer. The S-3B Vikings were retired several years ago. Helicopters are about all we have and they could operate from DDG’s. The carrier isn’t there to hunt subs. Not its primary mission, anyway.


35 posted on 08/30/2012 2:32:35 PM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: familyop

The Iranians have been attacking America
for decades INCLUDING in the first attack on the WTC.

Given the past atrocities against Americans,
Mr. Dempsey is obviously either dumb as rock, or
on the side of Iran against America (like Obama and the DNC).


36 posted on 08/30/2012 2:52:34 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: Eleutheria5
So we don't have to tell the US anything.

I think that's wise, I would not feel slighted at all. Odumbbell would tip your hand to the enemy in a Tennessee second.

37 posted on 08/30/2012 2:57:37 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

We have IRAN’S BACK.


38 posted on 08/30/2012 3:11:04 PM PDT by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: Eleutheria5
Well, that's so Obama. But, I have news for him.

If Israel attacks Iran & the USA stays “neutral”, that will end the reign of Obama. Jewish voters will be outraged, as will supporters of Israel. The US & Obama will look weak & unable to influence events. All of a sudden, Obama will not be the top news item.

And if Israel succeeds in seriously damaging the Iranian nuke program, or better, destroys a significant portion of the Iranian military, the Republican Guards, and/or the leadership, Obama will look like a total fool & Israel will attain far greater respect in the world.

Hillary Clinton, Obama, & the rest of the world leadership had better wake up to a real fact. With 100+ nuclear weapons, Israel is capable of destroying every major city in ANY country of the world. Israel could, given the provocation, destroy EVERY Arab muslim city, including Mecca & Medina, within a day or two. Such an attack would devastate any country, including the US, China, & Russia. It would completely destroy Iranian society.

So, Obama & Co. can play with fire all they want, but they need to get ready to get seriously hurt by events they refused to control. The world will change dramatically & not necessarily in US favor. But then, that's Obama’s plan, isn't it?

39 posted on 08/30/2012 3:36:40 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Diogenesis

Re: “Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, said ... he did not know Iran’s nuclear intentions”

He also said that he thought that Iranian mullahs were reasonable people. Dempsey is just a lackey for obama and is an insult to the uniform he wears. OIF vet


40 posted on 08/30/2012 3:37:50 PM PDT by jesseam (eliev)
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To: Eleutheria5


41 posted on 08/30/2012 3:50:52 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Diogenesis

Good point.


42 posted on 08/30/2012 3:50:53 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: DoughtyOne
No. Obama needs to spend all of October feverishly fretting over his complete loss of influence over world events. He needs to be second or third fiddle, while the world focuses on Israel & Iran. The loss of the media spotlight - wars are real news - will kill Obama’s ego. The war will severely distract Obama from the campaign, or will show he is only interested in reelection as the threat of world war escalates.

As we have seen this very day, Obama cannot be deterred from campaigning, even as Louisiana is drowning. But then, LA is not a swing state.

43 posted on 08/30/2012 3:55:53 PM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Eleutheria5
Well, you don't have to use the IAF to strike Iran, you use the Jericho 3 ICBM fired from Israel and Popeye Turbo SLCM from its four Dolphin submarines fired from the Indian Ocean to takeout Iran and the mad mullahs. Use EMP to render Iran electronically deaf, dumb, and blind. Then take down the nuke sites. Let the Iranians learn to cope with the 7th century for the foreseeable future.
44 posted on 08/30/2012 4:16:15 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Mister Da

No matter how this plays out, he’s toast. I can live with that. ;^) Take care...


45 posted on 08/30/2012 6:11:11 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Americans want what Americans always wanted: Better lives for families; little government authority.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Dempsey said he did not know Iran's nuclear intentions, seeing as intelligence does not reveal intentions.

You're right, Mr Dempsey! We simply have no idea what Iran's intentions are. Other than what they've specifically stated Ahmanutjob stating that once Iran has nukes, they will "wipe Israel off the map." Or when the Grand Cyclops Mullah said that the extermination of Jews and destruction of Israel would be worth the loss of 100 million muslims.

Nope, there's no way of knowing what Iran's intentions are... Just like nobody knew what Hitler might do when he gained power, even after reading "Mein Kampf."

Just because a maniac says he's going to do something, doesn't mean he's really going to do it, right?

Mark

46 posted on 08/30/2012 6:37:58 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: napscoordinator
I would love to stop all foreign aid just until the debt is paid and then we can help people again. If we save in foreign aid, we could really put a big dent in the debt.

I seem to recall reading that cutting off all foreign aid would not cover a single year's annual deficit, meaning that the US will still continue to rack up debt. It will certainly slow the growth of the debt, but the debt will continue to grow.

At this point, 40% of every dollar the government spends is now borrowed.

Mark

47 posted on 08/30/2012 6:50:41 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Mister Da

There are no WMD. There never were any. Prove Israel has nukes. Heh. Heh.


48 posted on 08/30/2012 10:06:48 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

“Help is on the way” come January 2013.


49 posted on 08/30/2012 10:11:04 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: vette6387; Truth29; himno hero; Tallguy; Eleutheria5

The CVBG does not necessarily have to intercept the strike to interdict it.
If the CVBG can provide early warning and tracking data to Iran, then they might have time to engage with their best stuff. The Iranian air force is pretty much useless, but if the Iranians actually got the S-300s they wanted, the Israelis might have to run a dangerous gauntlet against a forewarned enemy.
Heck, it is even “deniable,” a big plus for the Liar-in-chief.


50 posted on 08/31/2012 5:55:57 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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