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George Will Calls Out Washington Post Fact-Checker
NewsBusters.org ^ | September 3, 2012 | Noel Sheppard

Posted on 09/03/2012 6:01:18 PM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Kickass Conservative

Matthew Dowd, potted plant house conservative the liberals use to show ‘balance’ who in fact, like David Brooks, kicks conservatives to the curb.

Glad to see George Will went Newt-lear on Dowd’s repeating a media lie.


21 posted on 09/03/2012 9:24:28 PM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole AmericaÂ’s promise!)
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To: WaterWeWaitinFor

Just like the theme of “our rights come from God and nature”... I heard one dem say that NO they DON’T come from God and nature. Well, well..... I’ll bet the farm that when both R and R are touting that statement in several speeches it’s a total TRICK statement for the dems.”

reciting the declaration of independence is a trap for the Democrats. LOL

You are correct that Ryan has precision in what he says, its something sloppy candidates lack (like Biden).
The media will call what he says ‘lies’ only by stretching the truth themselves.


22 posted on 09/03/2012 9:36:53 PM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole AmericaÂ’s promise!)
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To: Kaslin
Matthew Dowd (parrot-droppings be upon him) is about as much a "Republican strategist" as I am a Phalangist generalissimo.

Or a secret Hesychasmist conspirator.

Or a Brazilian gemstone cutter.

Et cetera (roll your own).

23 posted on 09/03/2012 9:45:46 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: americas.best.days...
Only Sarah and Newt seem to have the ability to do that.

Mittens had better go to both of them, on his knees, and grasp their ankles with offerings of peace and patronage -- BIG patronage (like Ronnie gave Poppy Bush in 1980; turn about is fair play!) -- in return for serious help as surrogates in battling the 'RatMedia/RatRoots Slime Machine (David Axelgrease, Manager).

24 posted on 09/03/2012 9:52:44 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: TChad

Ryan never blamed Obama for shutting the plant, that’s a media lie.

Ryan showed up Obama for making promises he never kept.

The plant is still shut.


25 posted on 09/03/2012 9:53:21 PM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole AmericaÂ’s promise!)
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To: Kaslin

Obama says he wants to keep a factory open
Factory closes
Obama becomes Prez
Factory still closed

nuff said


26 posted on 09/03/2012 11:45:32 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: Kaslin

Matthew Dowd is a liar and a fraud. He is certainly no “Republican strategist” unless he’s the kind who shares a hot tub with David Brock, David Brooks, and David Stockman. (Matthew Dowd should change his name to David.)


27 posted on 09/03/2012 11:56:41 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Kickass Conservative

I think Matthew Dowd is GAY and he’s gone over to the Democrat side a LONG time ago.


28 posted on 09/04/2012 3:33:26 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Kaslin

What George Will and the folks at WAPO don’t realize is that most people don’t pay any attention to them anymore.


29 posted on 09/04/2012 3:40:09 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: AdaGray

I see it a little differently.

The Wash Post and the media DO NOT CARE if people don’t pay attention to them or not. Getting the meme out there that Ryan lied is what they want.

In other words, THEY lied about Ryan lying about Obama. This gives cover to Obama’s liberal supporters to cite these fact-checker media web sites so that they can win arguments and appear to be accurate in their talking points and debates with others. The truth has nothing to do with it.

Try this out:

Liberal: Ryan’s a liar. Even the XYZ.factchecker.org says so !

You: Wait just a minute: He said Candidate Obama said the plant was going to stay open 100 years if he could help it. He became president, the plant closed, and it’s still closed!

Liberal: Well don’t argue that with me; argue with xyz.factcheker.org. I think I’ll trust them over YOUR opinion. Besides, that plant stopped making cars when BUSH was still in office!

You: It’s not my opinion; it’s the truth. Besides, the plant didn’t close when Bush was president, because they still made pickups until 2009.

Liberal: That’s not what xyz.factchecker.org says!


30 posted on 09/04/2012 4:10:33 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Oh, and one other thing... The liberal I used above often isn’t just some guy at the office or off the streets, but is a local democrat politician, a media type: reporter, newscaster, editor, or other journ-O-list, so they’ll keep spreading the lies, bias, etc.

The best thing we can do is create fact checkers ourselves and counter charge the left with “Obama lied, abc, xyz, etc.” The difference would be abc and xyz would accurate!


31 posted on 09/04/2012 4:19:51 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Kaslin

Unfortunately, the defense of the “fact checkers” by Matthew Dowd, a Republican, was probably more effective in the debate than George Will’s statements.


32 posted on 09/04/2012 9:42:27 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk oMnly to me.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Points well taken. But I also believe that, thanks to internet, there is a growing audience of Americans who need only see an establishment moniker (be it WAPO, NYT, NBC or George Will) and know instantly to turn away and not delve further.


33 posted on 09/04/2012 3:38:10 PM PDT by AdaGray
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To: AdaGray

Exactly. They have tarnished themselves, their good names and their reputations by being whores to certain politics.

I live for the day when their establishments are bankrupt and no one will hire them because they’re not reporters but rather lying hacks.


34 posted on 09/04/2012 3:48:07 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: wildbill
I have to disagree that the "Republican" made a strong case defending the "fact checkers":

DOWD: George, the way he -- when anybody that is watching that that didn't know the facts of it, anybody watching that speech, whether they -- as I say, just like the welfare thing, anybody coming away from that believes one thing."

Sounds like ObaMao when he's off-prompter :-)

35 posted on 09/04/2012 4:32:20 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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