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When The Music Stops – How America’s Cities May Explode In Violence
Western Rifle Shooters Association ^ | September 4, 2012 | Matt Bracken

Posted on 09/04/2012 5:37:03 AM PDT by Travis McGee

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To: Lazamataz

We shall see, won’t we? If 90% of cell phones in a confict area are shut down, it takes away the phone service to the 99% of the population that is not rioting, causing more hardship. But 10%, who have phones on different exchanges, will still have service. That will be enough for the flash mobs.


161 posted on 09/04/2012 10:01:20 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

BFL


162 posted on 09/04/2012 10:02:43 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Travis McGee

AKA the Zombie apocalypse.


163 posted on 09/04/2012 10:03:12 AM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Travis McGee
There are area-denial methods, too.

But 10%, who have phones on different exchanges, will still have service. That will be enough for the flash mobs.

Could you command a force if you could only communicate with 10% of it?

164 posted on 09/04/2012 10:05:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: Travis McGee

Fantasy time on Free Republic.

In the back of a pickup, pickin’ off the “yutes”??? Yeah.


165 posted on 09/04/2012 10:08:24 AM PDT by procrustes
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To: Travis McGee
The flash-mob trainers (and yes, one or two have been identified as working a flash-mob in NM then in PA or CT, IIRC) are well aware of communications needs. Overlooked in the contemplation of these thuggery training programs is the ‘camaraderie’ created by participating in one of these slash and grab maneuvers. It is akin to gang mentality and very tough to dissolve, making them more loyal to each other than a mere mob of looters would be.
166 posted on 09/04/2012 10:09:20 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Obadiah
The government will always keep those EBT cards working as they know what's at stake.

They can "keep the EBT cards working," but they can't make the electronic digits worth anything if the currency has collapsed. You are mistaking flashing digits for value. Flashing digits do not always have value. An EBT card that "works" but conveys only digits that have no value, is no better than an EBT card honestly flashing zeroes.

167 posted on 09/04/2012 10:10:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kartographer

I find that to be unlikely. The Commodity Credit Corporation under the USDA, Americold Corporation, the surplus retained for emergency foreign food aid, etc., all still point to vast ongoing storage.

Importantly, it may not currently be directly *assigned* to price stabilization surplus, but it can all be shuffled around for whatever purposes are needed. A collapse of the EBT system would be one such purpose.


168 posted on 09/04/2012 10:12:38 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Chipper; Jack Black
For later reading. Matt if you have an official CW2 Ping list, I’d be interested in being added to it please. Loving book 2 so far.

Jack Black maintains the CW2 list.

169 posted on 09/04/2012 10:15:23 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: reasonisfaith

I think it’s important to remember things don’t happen in real life like they do in the movies.

NO they’re worse.Much worse.


170 posted on 09/04/2012 10:17:58 AM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: DTogo
Many excellent take-aways that are very likely "misunderestimated" by the wannabe-overlords of Mordor. One critical event that could really hyper-escalate the chaos and carnage: regional loss of power, by the downing of a utility pole or something flung into the many exposed substations.

That's for sure. But at 5,600 words, I had to stop the scenario escalations somewhere. I sort of covered that with the infrastructure channels being at risk, but you are right. And sometimes, gangs put the lights out on purpose, by cutting lines to adjoining areas, to make them easier to rob and loot. That can begin a deadly cascade of events all on its own.

171 posted on 09/04/2012 10:19:17 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Lazamataz
Could you command a force if you could only communicate with 10% of it?

If the 10% were distributed among groups and could verbally relay info to the rest of the group, yes. The drug gangs also use walkie-talkies.

172 posted on 09/04/2012 10:23:19 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Travis McGee

I can’t help but wonder how long the “urban gang” model would hold up. The lack of resource situation would escalate quickly, and gang members would be competing between themselves for food, etc.

Cities would soon become little more than ghost towns


173 posted on 09/04/2012 10:26:05 AM PDT by djf (The barbarian hordes will ALWAYS outnumber the clean-shaven. And they vote.)
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To: Travis McGee; Obadiah

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: “If you don’t work you die.”


174 posted on 09/04/2012 10:28:07 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Travis McGee; All
This thread today on FR: FOOD STAMP USE CLIMBS TO RECORD 46.7 MILLION prompts in me some thoughts to add to the discussion:

1. The SNAP programs are run by the states, with monies sent by the FedGov. If the states sense that FedGov is close to a situation where it is not going to re-imburse them, they will have various reactions. Some, like New York and California, will just keep pumping out SNAP cards, spending money like there is no tomorrow. But a state like Texas or Oklahoma might say NO to fronting the money for SNAP cards. So, at least early on, we might not see LA or NY explode. We might see Houston, Oklahoma City, or other smaller urban enclaves with high minority populations go first.

2. It might not even take a federal bankruptcy to trigger an EBT system failure. There are people who want the EBT system to fail. Consider the fact that the race-baiters believe that more suffering among "their" people might actually achieve their ends. Also, there are elements nominally on the side of FreeFor that might want to give the chaos an artificial push, to stop the federal entitlement monster.

A clever database hack in the state-level (but privately-owned) systems that process EBT cards could temporarily disable transactions on those cards. Such a crude hack would be found and fixed in a matter of days or a week, but if multiple states had their systems attacked at once, the MUY might begin to think the jig is up, and the rioting would start.

Such an artificial "push" might actually cause a WORSE result than an organic financial failure of the EBT system. The race baiters, whether they caused the failure or not, would be screaming at the top of their lungs for vengeance on their racial opposites.

3. Since there are so many people using EBTs, there has begun to exist a pattern that might be exploited by the forces of #2 above: On the night before EBT accounts are filled in that particular state, welfare dependents shop in large chain stores, and then wait for midnight for their "Obama Money" to appear.

These stores have an Achilles heel: their satellite network connection, which is used, among other things, for EBT card verification.

At several large stores in a strategically-chosen city, the operator need only disable the microwave dish on the roof a few seconds or minutes before midnight. This could be done with a standoff weapon like a rifle, or it could be done with a pair of wire cutters on the LNB cable at the dish, if roof access could be had. A very small remotely-detonated explosive squib could cut the cable, too. It could even be done with a private UAV.

The result will be the MUY immediately suspecting "whitey" or the GOP or whomever has denied them "their" benefit. The result will be immediate looting and rioting of the people lined up in the stores, and later, in the streets. It would be hours or days before the stores' uplinks were restored.

Again, the result might even be worse than an organic federal financial failure.

I do not say these things to encourage them, but if we do not face the situation and plan for it, it will overtake us.

175 posted on 09/04/2012 10:36:31 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (My game is disruption. I will use lethal force --my vote-- in self-defense against Obama.)
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To: DuncanWaring
38 rounds into a 12-inch-wide target at 300 yards in one minute.

That is also including the insertion of at least 6 stripper clips or 3 mag changes.

The .303 SMLE is also a healthy kicker. 38 rounds within 60 seconds is abusive.

176 posted on 09/04/2012 10:40:05 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Eye of Unk
I actually plan on saving most food containers and refilling them with material to duplicate weight and feel, especially boxed foods. Create a fake food larder.

Five minutes after they find out they've been duped, they'll be back on your property with a vengence. May want to just give them the real thing but have other caches they don't know about.

177 posted on 09/04/2012 10:45:25 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Travis McGee
Firing the high-velocity mediocre 5.56×45 mm cartridge.

Fixed that for ya.

178 posted on 09/04/2012 10:46:39 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: procrustes
In the back of a pickup, pickin’ off the “yutes”??? Yeah.

Review the case of the DC snipers.

179 posted on 09/04/2012 10:52:16 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Travis McGee
Oh, dude, if I didn't say it before, I'll say it now: Very well done article! Would you like it promoted to the Freeper Editorial and News section as well as the current tags?

(If I focused on the few areas I thought were in some error, don't let that overshadow the overall A+ nature of the effort. It's like after one of your successful missions: You go over your afteraction and see where you could improve, but it's implied that the mission is a success)

180 posted on 09/04/2012 10:52:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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