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CA’s Awful Prop. 31: Is This Your Future? [becoming second-class citizens in your own state]
National Review Online - The Corner ^ | September 4, 2012 | Stanley Kurtz

Posted on 09/04/2012 10:59:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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"If you want to understand the political and policy roots of Proposition 31, the best place to turn is the California Speakers Commission on Regionalism. (You can read a condensed version of the Commission’s 2002 report here.) This report was prepared for then-Speaker of the California Assembly, Robert Hertzberg. Hertzberg now serves as co-chair of California Forward, the key sponsor of Proposition 31."
1 posted on 09/04/2012 10:59:34 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We are becoming a nation of looters and parasites. Thou shall not covet other people’s stuff is so old-fashioned. And surely racist.


2 posted on 09/04/2012 11:04:21 AM PDT by all the best (`~!)
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The clock to REV II keeps ticking down, it is almost at midnight now.


3 posted on 09/04/2012 11:05:30 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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Rush Limbaugh, as usual, quickly identified the fact that Obama and his minions are waging war on the suburbs. This is the California state-level version of this war. If you think California is going downhill now—you’ve not seen anything yet. Wait and see what happens if Prop 31 passes.

Suburbanites—you will be slaves to the Liberals and their constituents.


4 posted on 09/04/2012 11:08:24 AM PDT by House Atreides
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Burn Down the Suburbs? Not exactly, but Obama is already working to get rid of them.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2915017/posts

This article is adapted from Spreading the Wealth: How Obama is Robbing the Suburbs to Pay for the Cities, by Stanley Kurtz, from Sentinel HC.


5 posted on 09/04/2012 11:12:37 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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Running afoul of Godwin's law, I know but...isn't this what the Germans did under Hitler?

Consolidated all the quaint little German towns into more easily administrated political entities?

6 posted on 09/04/2012 11:14:02 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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31 is referred to innocuously as a "Two-Year Budget Cycle" on Wikipedia.
7 posted on 09/04/2012 11:14:24 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Other supporters include: The California Republican Party.
8 posted on 09/04/2012 11:16:52 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Republicans are going to have to learn how to win the cities.

Long-term nations are becoming more urbanized. This means that more and more voters will be in urban areas. Hence, conceding them to the Democrats is self-defeating.

Cities are also the economic powerhouses of the nation. Blue states are the ones which pay more to the federal government and subsidize the Red.

Cities are the source of civilization as the word itself shows. Every great civilization has a great city at its center.


9 posted on 09/04/2012 11:21:11 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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They will be assimilated into "The 0bama Collective".


10 posted on 09/04/2012 11:26:48 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So this is UN Agenda 21 to be implemented at the state level.


12 posted on 09/04/2012 11:28:42 AM PDT by NeoCaveman ("If I had a son he'd look like B.O.'s lunch" - Rin Tin Tin)
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Isn’t this essentially what happened in places like Jacksonville, Florida and Columbus, Ohio that went out and annexed the whole danged County?


13 posted on 09/04/2012 11:29:55 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Burn down your cities and leave our farms, and your cities will spring up again as if by magic; but destroy our farms and the grass will grow in the streets of every city in the country.
William Jennings Bryan
14 posted on 09/04/2012 11:31:40 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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It is interesting that they are giving voters a chance to weigh in. Normally it would be some law that only the state electors would vote for. This at least is a fairer way to pass something or shoot it down if a majority of the voters don’t want it.


15 posted on 09/04/2012 11:35:58 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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I wonder what’s meant by ‘regional’ and ‘local’? Are any geographic or mileage restrictions?

If this comes about and I was part of one of the local governments that’s doing ok or better than ok, I’d be searching across the _entire_ state of CA to find other local governments I could team up with, versus being forced into a partnership with the neighbors down the road who can’t take care of their own affairs.


16 posted on 09/04/2012 11:38:56 AM PDT by bobwoodard
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If I'm not mistaken, this was done in Georgia. A friend of mine had a very nice home in Buckhead area of Atlanta, Ga. I don't know the exact particulars except him telling me that each year, more taxes were being diverted from services in Buckhead to inner city Atlanta. I do know he said enough is enough and sold his home.
17 posted on 09/04/2012 11:39:25 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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Republicans are going to have to learn how to win the cities.

Turning the AG loose to start sending a bunch of corrupt Democrat Mayors to prison and to expose their malfeasance for all the world to see would be a good place to start.


18 posted on 09/04/2012 11:51:14 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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This article is adapted from Spreading the Wealth: How Obama is Robbing the Suburbs to Pay for the Cities, by Stanley Kurtz, from Sentinel HC.
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Thanks for the tip. Just ordered from Amazon. Should receive it on Thurday along with “No Easy Day”.


19 posted on 09/04/2012 11:54:51 AM PDT by House Atreides
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Agenda 21: Get everybody moved into the cities. I recently read an article about "micro apartments" in NYC. Square footage: 300 or less. Talk about packing them in!

Oh, and the best part: the apartments will rent for round $2,000.00 per month.

I sit here in my house in a pine forest on some land in Aiken County, SC and have two thoughts:

  1. Never in a million years
  2. Over my dead body

20 posted on 09/04/2012 11:56:21 AM PDT by upchuck ("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
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