Posted on 09/04/2012 10:59:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
Not surprised, as states like California loose more and more tax revenue they will be looking at more and more ways to separate hard working people from their money and at the same time ensure that the voice of those being robbed is effectively silenced.
They are doing this here in NY State too.
There are activists claiming that there is too much “duplication” in our town Governments - schools, police, fire, soc. services could all be managed much more effectively if the local Gov’ts dissolved themselves into county or regional size Gov’t, thus creating super-size school districts, etc..
And most “small-Gov’t” types shout: “yeah! We can cut Gov’t employees and gov’t expenditure!”
They just don’t realize that everything will be combined to the lowest common denominator. Unions will then control not only the city employees of Syracuse, Buffalo, Rochester, but you can be sure they will control the suburban employees too. School districts will be run the same way. Standards and indoctrination will be run for everyone as they are now in the hell-hole urban districts. If there are any cost or tax savings, they will be very short-lived. I guarantee you there will be no tax savings in the long-run.
The future? (Intro passage to RUSH’s Red barchetta)...
“My uncle has a country place that no one knows about
He says it used to be a farm before the Motor Law
And on Sundays, I elude the eyes, hop the turbine freight
To far outside the wire, where my white-haired uncle waits...”
How are the “regions” defined?
Can’t the “rich” suburbs get together and form their own?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Inside
This is a great novel. And prophetic......................
Here in MN , that's determined by unelected bureaucrats from the "Metropolitan Council". (think 'Star Chamber' for cities) They started out being "central planners" of "smart growth" years ago just for the metro, but have expanded outward and are still doing so.
“Wait and see what happens if Prop 31 passes.”
California will just take another step down the road to irrelevancy.
Just bought that book. Thanks for the recommendation.
Prop. 8
Prop. 187
Prop. 198
Prop. 208
Prop. 225
Were all voted by the people..and passed.
And all were overturned by the State and or District Courts.
IOW, We the People don't count for much.
Prop. 13 will fall too...before it's over.
And people in those rural parts of the State will then be victimized by the urban pols pitching their caged rats to vote for bills that rip off the country people.
Your best bet, after North Korean or Chinese "urban renewal", is the residual protection afforded you by living in another State. As people realize what these Communist despots have in mind, they'll find the States to be once again the gristly, resistant backbone of the opposition. The $64,000 question is whether Abraham Lincoln broke too much in 1865.
This is already well underway in WA state, they are using the storm water issue to tie regions together.
I have the book, Spreading the Wealth, right here on my desk, waiting for me. I really need to get busy reading it.
I feel very blessed to live in South Carolina, a largely rural state.
sounds like a third way op.. Thanks for posting.
Do you know (1) who they are (2) where they work and (3) where they live? If not, find out. They are the enemy within, and belong on the WTSHTF target list. And they need to KNOW that they are listed; that may deter them a bit.
If this passes, Nevada, Arizona, and Oregon better watch out, because there will be an exidous from California like never seen before. I’m glad I got out when I did.
Sounds like an excellent idea.
When civilizations collapse it is because cities collapse or have been destroyed by invasion. It is cities which produce civilizations.
Most rural areas would also be destroyed by the destruction of cities. Or they would be nothing more than subsistence agriculture. In other words rural wealth and income would dry up. It is because of the enormous demand of cities that farmers can become wealthy.
When “Dark Ages” have occurred rural areas become dirt poor, illiterate and subject to roaming bands of raiders without the means to protect themselves.
Lincoln’s destruction of the Treasonous Slavers has nothing to do with this issue.
We’ve said it before, the state needs to be broken up. Everyone should not suffer cause LA and the Bay area turn the rest of the state.
If the shite continues I hope a real secession movement comes into being.
You all probably know where I stand on this. California should be divided into five states (the state “names” below are decriptive, but hardly optimal):
1. State of Los Angeles, with all of L.A. County:
10.0 million pop in 2010, 45%-50% Hispanic, 10% black, 12%-15% Asian
16 electoral votes, 29.17% McCain 2008, 35.60% Bush 2004, 32.35% Bush 2000
2. State of San Francisco Bay, with all of Alameda, Contra Costa, Humboldt, Marin, Mendocino, Monterey, Napa, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, Solano, Sonoma and Yolo Counties:
8.1 million pop in 2010, 21%-25% Hispanic, 7% black, 17%-20% Asian
13 electoral votes, 24.82% McCain in 2008, 29.95% Bush in 2004, 30.64% Bush in 2000
3. State of Inland Empire, with all of Kern, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara and Ventura Counties:
6.7 million pop in 2010, 36%-40% Hispanic, 6% black, 4%-5% Asian
11 electoral votes, 46.79% McCain in 2008, 55.54% Bush in 2004, 50.70% Bush in 2000
4. State of Central Valley, with all of Alpine, Amador, Butte, Calaveras, Colusa, Del Norte, El Dorado, Fresno, Glenn, Inyo, Kings, Lake, Lassen, Madera, Mariposa, Merced, Modoc, Mono, Nevada, Placer, Plumas, Sacramento, San Benito, San Joaquin, Shasta, Sierra, Siskiyou, Stanislaus, Sutter, Tehama, Trinity, Tulare, Tuolumne and Yuba Counties:
6.5 million pop in 2010, 27%-32% Hispanic, 5% black, 7%-8% Asian
11 electoral votes, 48.27% McCain in 2008, 56.92% Bush in 2004, 53.17% Bush in 2000
5. State of San Diego, with all of Imperial, Orange and San Diego Counties:
6.3 million pop in 2010, 30%-35% Hispanic, 4% black, 11%-13% Asian
11 electoral votes, 47.07% McCain in 2008, 55.86% Bush in 2004, 52.57% Bush in 2000
Essentially, comfortably Democrat California would be converted into two ridiculously Democrat states (based in L.A. and San Francisco Bay, respectively) and three GOP-leaning states, and under normal circumstances the 5 states would give the GOP a 6-4 edge in U.S. Senate seats (the Dems have had a 2-0 edge since 1992) and a 33-29 edge in electoral votes (the Dems got all 55 EVs from CA in 2008 and 2004 and all 54 EVs from CA in 2000, 1996 and 1992).
We should also split Texas up into four GOP states of around 11 electoral votes each, which would give us 6 new GOP Senators (and increase GOP electoral votes by 6 as well).
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