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Virgil Goode to remain on Va. presidential ballot
The Daily Caller ^ | 09/04/2012 | Jill Gregorie

Posted on 09/04/2012 7:33:15 PM PDT by CaptainKrunch

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Virginia’s Board of Elections will allow Virgil Goode to appear as a presidential candidate on state ballots in November, despite Republican efforts to block his candidacy, the Washington Post reports.

Goode is the Constitution Party’s presidential nominee. He represented Virginia’s 5th Congressional District from 1997 to 2009. He was initially elected as a Democrat before becoming an independent and then a Republican. Goode lost his seat to Democrat Tom Perriello in 2008.

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Goode’s presidential candidacy has the potential to impact the outcome in Virginia, a swing state where Republican candidate Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama are locked in a close race.

According to a July poll conducted by Public Policy Polling, Goode is currently drawing in 9 percent of the vote in Virginia, detracting from Romney but leaving Obama’s numbers virtually untouched.  A majority of his supporters would otherwise favor Romney.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2012swingstates; democrats4obama; goode2012; goode4obama; obama2012; rino; thirdparty; va2012; virgilgoode; virginia2012
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How could you say anything bad about a "Constitution party" candidate... excpet when that Constitution party candidate has decided to function as a spoiler in a critical election. 

I don't care if Ronald Regan himself was running as a 3rd party candidate in this election.   A spoiler is a spoiler is a spoiler. 

If someone knows they have no chance of actually winnning the election, and still insist on getting themselves on the ballot as a 5th wheel candidate, then I would have to say that they're in it for their own self serving agenda.  I am not shmoozed by the high minded theatrics.

 

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1 posted on 09/04/2012 7:33:17 PM PDT by CaptainKrunch
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To: CaptainKrunch

Probably the best news the America-bashing, commie freaks in Charlotte have heard all day. They’ve got to be loving it.


2 posted on 09/04/2012 7:38:07 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Had enough of the freaks running the show yet?)
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To: CaptainKrunch

I hope the sob realizes he could end up the most hated man in America.


3 posted on 09/04/2012 7:38:51 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: CaptainKrunch

He is not playing spoiler. The only way he becomes spoiler is if Romney cannot convince the conservative base to vote for him.


4 posted on 09/04/2012 7:39:49 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: CaptainKrunch
Goode is no good.

He is an egotistical jerk.

5 posted on 09/04/2012 7:40:25 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: CaptainKrunch
As I and others opposed to homosexuality and abortion would not vote for Romney under any circumstance, a person would have to be Roseanne Barr type crazy to assert that Goode was costing Romney our vote.

Not that there are not a lot of Roseanne Barr mentality freepers, obviously

6 posted on 09/04/2012 7:41:23 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Michele must be doin’ this guy or something ... it doesn’t make sense ...


7 posted on 09/04/2012 7:41:35 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Keep your laws OFF my Big Gulp !)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Goode would be Greate for Obama!


8 posted on 09/04/2012 7:45:51 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: CaptainKrunch; xzins
The man is being propped up by Soros.

Some conservative, and with an embarrassing sugar daddy that should scare the living crap out of anyone who supports him; yet some people will vote for him with pride, claiming some kind of righteous purity.......

Sick. Just sick.

9 posted on 09/04/2012 7:48:06 PM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: CaptainKrunch

If someone knows they have no chance of actually winnning the election, and still insist on getting themselves on the ballot as a 5th wheel candidate, then I would have to say that they’re in it for their own self serving agenda.

The same could be said for left leaning GOP candidates that insist on getting the nomination even though they know they are alienating the party base. The GOP must earn the conservative votes as well as the moderates.


10 posted on 09/04/2012 7:50:01 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

To dream ... the impossible dream ...
To fight ... the unbeatable foe ...
To bear ... with unbearable sorrow ...
To run ... where the brave dare not go ...
To right ... the unrightable wrong ...
To love ... pure and chaste from afar ...
To try ... when your arms are too weary ...
To reach ... the unreachable star ...


This is my quest, to follow that star ...
No matter how hopeless, no matter how far ...
To fight for the right, without question or pause ...
To be willing to march into Hell, for a Heavenly cause ...
11 posted on 09/04/2012 7:52:27 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: GeronL
The conservative base does understand this, it's the crazies who don't: You can get rid of the worst, most divisive, most pro-Marxist, pro-death, pro- muzzie, pro-union, anti-Christian, anti-Israeli, anti-business, anti-American, anti-everything we say we love and care about administration ever.

Or throw your vote away.

Your choice, don't be a moron.

12 posted on 09/04/2012 7:52:35 PM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Disgusting. Goode is a phony “conservative” who backed the feminists’ Equal Rights Amendment in the 1970s and liberal Douglas Wilder for Governor in the late 80s.


13 posted on 09/04/2012 7:54:27 PM PDT by montag813
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To: CaptainKrunch

Ha. He probably won’t make the ballot in my state so I’ll have to write him in or write in Palin or not vote.


14 posted on 09/04/2012 7:55:18 PM PDT by Mozilla (Constitution Party)
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To: Lakeshark

” Or throw your vote away.”

No, they want to have a good ‘feeling’ from their vote. Maybe they should tie a ribbon to a tree to show that they care.


15 posted on 09/04/2012 7:56:27 PM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: montag813
Goode is a phony “conservative” who backed the feminists’ Equal Rights Amendment in the 1970s and liberal Douglas Wilder for Governor in the late 80s.

He's running against the worst president ever and the man who tried to out-liberal Kennedy in 1994. What a horrible set of choices.

16 posted on 09/04/2012 8:03:19 PM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Couldn’t this clown just get a sports car or a younger girlfriend, or whatever? Why does his desperate need have to increase our danger of getting another serving of Obama ?


17 posted on 09/04/2012 8:10:41 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (If I had a failed one-term President, he'd look like Obama.)
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To: CaptainKrunch

The liberal Atlantic knows exactly what Virgil Goode is and they’re singing his praises.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/02/virgil-goode-this-is-what-a-third-party-candidate-looks-like/253408/

They know an ego freak phony when they see one. If he was the Republican nominee they would never support him, but as a third party fool they’re loving him up.


18 posted on 09/04/2012 8:12:06 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Mozilla

wow - you’re so amazingly awesome it’s amazing.


19 posted on 09/04/2012 8:17:01 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa (Vote for Goode, end up with evil, pat self on back repeatedly)
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To: MrEdd
Either Obama or Romney will win.

Romney is much better than Obama.

You will not affect history with your vote, if you vote 3rd Party.

You will help Obama, if you do not vote for Romney.

You are an Obama supporter.

20 posted on 09/04/2012 8:22:11 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: CaptainKrunch

” A spoiler is a spoiler is a spoiler. “

Considering the overwhelming importance of this election, I’ll go further.

A spoiler is a spoiler is a spoiler, is a DAMN TRAITOR.


21 posted on 09/04/2012 9:08:56 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Kansas58; Jim Robinson
Either Obama or Romney will win.
Romney is much better than Obama.

You will not affect history with your vote, if you vote 3rd Party.

You will help Obama, if you do not vote for Romney.

You are an Obama supporter.

Either socialism or constitutional principals will win.

Either people who oppose pedophilia or people on record as desiring to force e the boy scouts to accept homosexual scoutmasters will win. Either lifelong supporters of planned parenthood will win, or people who believe babies have a right to live will win.

You have revealed everything about yourself in your post.

By your own rules set out by you to claim I support Obama, Kansas58, you are a pro pedeophile, anti-life, socialist.

You can ask if the site owner thinks pointing this out to you breaks the site rules, I have pinged him for you.

Winning one election is not everything. Maintaining a voice for social conservatism in one of the major parties trumps winning one election.

It may be that there is no longer a way to preserve the America I grew up in peacefully. Certainly electing Romney on the eve of the European collapse does not help.

At any rate, Those who vote for Romney personally deserve what will come down the pike no matter who wins, because Obama and Romney are pretty much the same, just moving at different speeds.

22 posted on 09/04/2012 9:12:20 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd
Maintaining a voice for social conservatism in one of the major parties trumps winning one election.

You had that opportunity, the same as we all did, in the Republican primary process.

A vote for Virgil Goode does not achieve your stated objective.

Neither does trying to intimidate a Freeper more concerned with stopping Obama than having clean hands in a dirty fight to save our country.

You know exactly what you are.

23 posted on 09/04/2012 9:20:10 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 62 days away.)
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To: GeronL

The only people more stupid than goode would be those that vote for him or defend his stupidity of running a spoiler campaign.


24 posted on 09/04/2012 9:20:23 PM PDT by soycd
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To: soycd

He can run for President if he wants, this isn’t a tyrannical dictatorship yet.

He is no threat to Romney unless Mittens fails to attract the conservative base.


25 posted on 09/04/2012 9:26:32 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: MrEdd
Santorum, Gingrich, Palin, Cain, every Republican in the House and Senate, every Republican Governor -—

Rush, Hannity, Mark Levin, those who run the Heritage Foundation, National Right to Life Committee -—

Jay Sekulow, the American Center for Law and Justice, Landmark Legal Foundation, if not directly then those who work their and support these organizations -—

Countless conservative people and groups support Romney over Obama.

I guess you are “smarter” and “more pure” than anyone else?

Or more foolish and prideful?

26 posted on 09/04/2012 9:28:19 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: CaptainKrunch

What makes people think,that Goode hasn’t been paid off by Rove/Bush to do this? The Bushies want Obama to win so no one get’s in Jebbies way for 2016. They have a vested interest in seeing MITTEN’S lose Virginia.


27 posted on 09/04/2012 10:18:08 PM PDT by mark1973
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To: CaptainKrunch
According to a July poll conducted by Public Policy Polling, Goode is currently drawing in 9 percent of the vote in Virginia

He won't be anywhere near that, come election day.

28 posted on 09/05/2012 5:15:54 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: CaptainKrunch
According to a July poll conducted by Public Policy Polling, Goode is currently drawing in 9 percent of the vote in Virginia

He won't be anywhere near that, come election day.

29 posted on 09/05/2012 5:16:53 AM PDT by ScottinVA (If Obama is reelected, America will deserve every mockery that follows.)
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To: mark1973; All

Do you have proof???


30 posted on 09/05/2012 5:17:48 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Romney / Ryan 2012)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Third parties are akin to cutting off your nose to spite your face.


31 posted on 09/05/2012 5:19:50 AM PDT by madameguinot (Our Father's God to Thee, Author of Liberty)
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To: CaptainKrunch

Those who claim they will vote for Goode (espeically those here on FR) didn’t vote for McCain in 2008. If they claim they did, BS. So, while I believe this is truly meant to help Obama, in essence it won’t. The Goode voters were either Obama voters or non-voters in 2008.

This thread will now just become one where the same group of posters starts telling everyone how Romney and Obama are the same, they’ll have every excuse why they didn’t work harder for candidate X during the primary process.

Blah, blah, blah.

Romney/Ryan


32 posted on 09/05/2012 5:20:27 AM PDT by swpa_mom
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To: swpa_mom

My take is that Goode is pretending to be a candidate and a misguided few will pretend to vote for him.

All know it is pretty much an unreal exercise in inanity .


33 posted on 09/05/2012 5:30:25 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Kansas58
It's like someone else said recently — essentially, this is a war for our country, and you can either vote for the only person who can beat Obama or be a conscientious objector. Just don't try and pretend that being a conscientious objector helps the country in this war.
34 posted on 09/05/2012 5:31:21 AM PDT by DaveInDallas
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To: Kansas58

The half wits with their pretend pride don’t want no stinkin’ facts like you just provided. The onanistic little clowns will vote for Virg, or Peter Pan, or Timmy the Halfling or whatever, then make sure the world hears about how cool they are. That what the country means to them - a sounding board to brag upon.


35 posted on 09/05/2012 5:35:35 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa (Vote for Goode, end up with evil, pat self on back repeatedly)
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To: Lakeshark; CaptainKrunch; wagglebee; P-Marlowe; cripplecreek; cva66snipe; Elvina; Finny; ...
I think the appearance of Virgil Goode on the Virginia ballot is a good thing for a couple of reasons.

1. They fulfilled the legal requirements, so they should not be prevented from being on the ballot.

2. In the Constitution Party, the issue is getting name recognition. So many minor parties have so little opportunity to get recognition, and this will give them that recognition.

Do they deserve it? Absolutely. The principles of the constitution party are far more conservative that those of Mitt Romney.

So, I heartily endorse Goode’s appearance on the ballot.

It is entirely possible that conservatives, seeing that Romney is now injured in Virginia, will all get behind the candidate from their state and give the CP a win.

That, of course, would deny delegates equally to both camps.

36 posted on 09/05/2012 5:39:12 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Lakeshark
The man is being propped up by Soros.

I would bet my mortgage if you could follow the money Soros would be in the woodpile somehow.

Some elections, a 3rd party vote would be OK. But in this one, where the Rats have gone full blown Communist, it ain't OK.

37 posted on 09/05/2012 5:41:30 AM PDT by Marathoner (Vote Romney 2012 to get rid of Obama. Vote Palin/West 2016 to finish the job.)
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To: GeronL
He is not playing spoiler. The only way he becomes spoiler is if Romney cannot convince the conservative base to vote for him.

Well said.

38 posted on 09/05/2012 5:41:37 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (At the end of the day, you have to worship the god who can set you on fire.)
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To: xzins

——In the Constitution Party, the issue is.....

Vanity


39 posted on 09/05/2012 5:42:31 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: bert

Vanity?

No. This is a post to an already existing thread.


40 posted on 09/05/2012 5:43:59 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: newzjunkey

I am not a Republican.
I am a conservative idealogue, posting not on a Republican site, but a conservative site.

Make no mistake, I am perfectly okay with the Republicans losing the elections when they run a soclib and... I want the people voting soclib to get to live full bore under liberalism.

Whenever an issue of liberal policy being forced on the populace under Romney comes up if he wins, I will be ridiculing anyone who voted for it if they complain.

What and who he is is not hidden.

People get what they deserve.

I do not share your personnal cowardice.
Nor the atheism that is a required at every level to make the compromise you are advocating.


41 posted on 09/05/2012 5:44:24 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: GeronL

Gmafb goode is a fake and a creep


42 posted on 09/05/2012 5:45:35 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: MrEdd
As I and others opposed to homosexuality and abortion would not vote for Romney under any circumstance, a person would have to be Roseanne Barr type crazy to assert that Goode was costing Romney our vote.

Exactly, MrEdd.

I'm not costing Romney anything. I wouldn't be voting for him in any case.

43 posted on 09/05/2012 5:47:12 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: bert

You’re exactly right.

Some here on FR will pretend to vote for him, too. The problem for them.......they didn’t vote for McCain in 2008, so their vote for Goode doesn’t hurt Romney. Remember, that is their intention, to hurt Romney’s chance. Isn’t that something? their intention isn’t to hurt Obama’s chances, it’s to hurt Romney’s chances...

I suspect we’ll soon see Mr. Goode championed on MSNBC and Current.


44 posted on 09/05/2012 6:03:29 AM PDT by swpa_mom
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To: MrEdd
Ross Perot gave us two terms of Bill Clinton. Slick Willy won with only 43% percent of the vote. Absolutely nothing good came of Ross Perot's 3rd party run. The only way I can support a 3rd party run in a presidential election is if it splits the democrat ticket, not the republican ticket.

If we can't get a TRUE conservative through the republican primary process, well then, we've already failed to get what we want for that particular election haven't we? It then becomes a matter of which party will inflict the most damage on our way of life and we must choose the best way to mitigate that damage.

If your ship is sinking because it has two holes in it, a big gaping hole, and a then smaller hole, which hole are you gonna choose to fix first? Of course, I would choose for my ship to have no holes in it whatsoever and to not be sinking. But that's an injudicious hope, as the ship continues to sink. So then, should you not try to fix the hole that is making the ship sink the fastest, and then work on fixing the smaller hole after.

Yeah, the ship is still gonna be sinking with that socialist POS Romney at the helm. Better it sinking slower than faster. It gives us more time to wage our war for conservative victory.

45 posted on 09/05/2012 6:03:57 AM PDT by CaptainKrunch (Freedom does not promise safety and security, freedom only promises freedom.)
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To: xzins

“It is entirely possible that conservatives, seeing that Romney is now injured in Virginia, will all get behind the candidate from their state and give the CP a win.”


“Entirely possible”? Only to the extent that it is “possible” that I’ll run into Bill Gates at a grocery store and he’ll give me a check for a billion dollars.

Here are the facts: Virgil Goode will get between 1%-5% of the vote. Depending on how close VA ends up being, that 1%-5% could allow Obama to win VA with under 50% of the vote. If Obama wins VA’s 13 electoral votes, it would be difficult to deny him the 270 electoral votes he needs to win reelection (basically, Romney would need to win FL, OH, NC, WI and IA for a 269-all tie, and an additional state to get 270+). Thus, voting for Goode does not have any palpable effect on the election, while not voting for Romney over Obama could have the effect of Obama winning reelection.

It is utter fantasy to believe that Virgil Goode somehow could contend for VA’s 13 electoral votes, or for electoral votes in any state.


46 posted on 09/05/2012 6:04:09 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Mad Dawg; EDINVA; VA_Gentleman; seekthetruth; COBOL2Java; Perdogg; kabar; Gabz; Wage Slave; ...

VA Ping!

If you want on/off the VA Ping List, please freepmail me. Thanks!


47 posted on 09/05/2012 6:12:26 AM PDT by randita
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I disagree. Goode is from a long-time political family in Virginia. He has been a social and fiscal conservative his entire life, and his connections in the state are such that even this ability to overcome the Virginia attorney general and get on the ballot says that he is not a neophyte regarding Virginia politics.

I repeat...IF it is seen that he is preventing a Romney win, real conservatives could be encouraged to vote their principles and unite behind a conservative.

This would be enormous in terms of building a new, future conservative party, a home for social conservatives.

However, I don’t really expect a Goode opponent to see this or appreciate it.


48 posted on 09/05/2012 6:13:17 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: GeronL

Gmafb goode is a fake and a creep


49 posted on 09/05/2012 6:15:43 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote
goode is a fake and a creep

Then Romney doesn't need to worry about losing conservative voters, right?

/johnny

50 posted on 09/05/2012 6:31:11 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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