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'No Easy Day': six top revelations from book on the bin Laden mission
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | 5 September 2012 | staff

Posted on 09/05/2012 1:24:31 PM PDT by gandalftb

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To: sarasmom

You make good points.

On that line, suppose Bissonnette shows up as the technical advisor on that movie?

Bissonnette retired out on 20 April 2012, certainly the book was finished and at the publisher before then with all kinds of unauthorized workers looking the book over while he was still under contract and subject to the UCMJ.


21 posted on 09/05/2012 5:17:58 PM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: gandalftb
Not necessarily.

I read books. It's my primary entertainment source.
I purchase my books, sometimes hardbacks, but mostly I restrain myself and wait for the secondary release of the paperback editions, or buy them at used bookstores.

Electronic books have turned the publishing industry on its head.
Read any of the “current events” type books, and you will notice all the Microsoft Word spellcheck problems.

OTOH, most authors outline to published book timeline, has been shortened to mere days, not the previous many months.

Obviously it takes a lot longer for reliable peer reviewed reference level manuals of serious and weighty topics.

This is just a first person account of a historically notable event. As I understand the outline (I have not yet read the book) it includes some color background to set the stage for readers unfamiliar with a little known lifestyle.

BTW, I am supposedly subject to the UCMJ for 25 years after my death, as far as publishing my own memoirs goes.
Carter wiped that kind of secrecy away, so I don't need Federal oversight before I openly talk about certain mission plans I wrote, but that were never activated.
I don't and wont. But that is not the same thing as this instance.
The Feds already declassified this mission to the public.

22 posted on 09/05/2012 6:11:45 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: gandalftb

I ordered this book from Amazon last week. It was sent yesterday and is at the post office right now for me to pick up. We don’t have mail delivery so we get packages over the counter at the post office. I’ll be picking it up in the morning. I’m looking forward to reading it.


23 posted on 09/05/2012 8:12:26 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Had enough of the freaks running the show yet?)
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To: gandalftb

Great thread. It shows why it is important to sneak peek into the truth beyond politics.

Obama has a dismal record when one asks about factual things.


24 posted on 09/05/2012 8:22:58 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7

Look i read the book last night on kindle & have no clue of what the big deal about secret revelations are. Any idiot can look on the internet or in some military book & use math to figure out how much fuel & how far our copters can go. The real crime is how O shot off his mouth about the op along w/ the restt of his cronies in DC. Also, some fool revealed the auhor’s real name! This guy should be shot. Look, these cia kguys are not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. We lived in communist bulgaria from 1987-90 & taught at the embassy school in sofia. Once, they wanted to secretly meet w/ some big shot dissident. Problem was that he was deported 2 weeks before the meeting. How did they find out about this? I had article on desk from a US paper my parents sent to us. It talked about how said dissident was now in SF. The cia guy was picking up his kids after school & saw the article. He couldn’t believe it & asked if he could have it. Now, besides missing 911 & the end of communism, there is your typical cia guy...


25 posted on 09/05/2012 11:50:32 PM PDT by KhanKrum (That's pretty bold talk for a one eyed fat man. Fill your hand you son of a b...h!)
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To: gandalftb
1 posted on Wed Sep 05 2012 15:24:38 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by gandalftb: “Bissonnette is clearly an operator in the know.”

Thank you for this evaluation. Lots of people claim to know things they don't, or shade the truth just enough to profit handsomely.

Granted, with a major subject like this, the author would probably get “outed” for exaggerated claims not only because of the high-profile nature of the subject but also because lots of people have a strong motive to do so. My guess is efforts will be made to discredit him no matter what the facts may be, and the discrediting attempts will themselves have to be reviewed for factuality and for motive.

Far too often, however, claims don't get challenged and wrong information or self-aggrandizing half-truths become “received truth” with real heroes staying quiet while others get credit they do not deserve.

I'm assuming the author deliberately decided not to get this book cleared in advance because he suspected (or perhaps knew with certainty) that it would never see the light of day if he followed proper procedures to get advance clearance.

I would not want to be in the author's shoes right now, but then again, guys who volunteer for his kind of job aren't adverse to risk-taking. This guy proved he had "balls" long before he wrote this book.

26 posted on 09/06/2012 2:35:54 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: KhanKrum

Only pResident Obama can break security protocols, and the law. No one else is allowed. The peons who do the heroic tasks, they are to just shut up or else die from being tortured by these liberal fascists, Obama and his supporters?

Obama is a usurper who should be impeached , tried and imprisoned.


27 posted on 09/06/2012 4:29:11 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: AAABEST
Quick Reaction Forse. Certain ops (especially those with indetermined or unknowable go-times) may require shooters to be ready to roll at a moments notice.

I like that - has the feel of a well oiled machine...

28 posted on 09/06/2012 7:49:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T. Jefferson)
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I can’t explain the damage caused without revealing deeper and more sensitive knowledge. Yes, this book won’t tell the ordinary reader very much. But those in the know could learn from the book and some of them are enemies.

I'm sorry this is happening - our guys need every advantage to do their job ( admittedly dangerous work under the best of conditions...) Allowing the enemy in on tactics undermines safety. I don't need to know specifics - thanks for explaining.

29 posted on 09/06/2012 7:59:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T. Jefferson)
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To: SnakeDoctor

Thanks Doc...


30 posted on 09/06/2012 7:59:54 AM PDT by GOPJ (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T. Jefferson)
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To: darrellmaurina

Does anybody know if he purposely put in false-flag details that would make our enemies THINK they know our operations, when they don’t? That’s a rhetorical question because if he did, it would be stupid of somebody to out the false-flag mission. Who knows but what he actually HELPED operational security in a very sneaky way.


31 posted on 09/07/2012 12:52:24 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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31 posted on Fri Sep 07 2012 14:52:24 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by butterdezillion: “Does anybody know if he purposely put in false-flag details that would make our enemies THINK they know our operations, when they don’t? That’s a rhetorical question because if he did, it would be stupid of somebody to out the false-flag mission. Who knows but what he actually HELPED operational security in a very sneaky way.”

Good question, but I don't have the knowledge to give any kind of informed answer. Gandalftb may have a better answer.

Considering where I live and work, I can think of perhaps a half-dozen people I know well who might actually be able to say something intelligent, but they're all intelligent enough to know better than to talk to pesky reporters about such things.

Anyone in the media who covers the military knows that some questions are best left unasked. Osama bin Laden stuff is far above my pay grade, much better people than me are focusing on that, and I stick to things where I can actually make a difference and which others aren't looking into.

32 posted on 09/08/2012 6:17:53 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina; butterdezillion

Good question.

The book is written in a very chatty style, not what I would expect from a military author. Clearly it seems to be the co-author’s work from conversations with Bissonnette.

Generally, there are no direct admissions of a confidential nature. However, someone in the know could infer operationally sensitive tactics that could help an enemy harden a future target.

Some of the described operational tactics make no sense such as having the QRF on the ground somewhere. That makes no sense, a QRF (Quick Reaction Force)...has to be quick...and that means loitering overhead.

This goes to my complaint about fuel and range-payload extension of force tactics that are classified.

Now that the book is open source, bin Laden’s tactics can be discussed. UBL chose to locate in Abbottabad, thinking that being next to the Paki West Point would prevent a raid by us. Ok, good thought, but a consequence was that UBL and his guards heard so many Paki helos going over that they became desensitized and ignored them.

That writing would help a future enemy hide better, but a thinking enemy should know that already. Where UBL erred was going so far underground that he no longer kept a very professional security force.

I don’t think the co-author was clever enough or in the know to leave false-flags, he wrote what he was told.


33 posted on 09/08/2012 9:39:51 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: gandalftb
According to the founder of SEAL Team Six, Richard Marchinko, the bin laden raid was carried out by some former SEALS attached to Task Force 20. It is a black ops unit with full legal U.S. authority to travel and enter any foreign country under Title 10 of the U.S. criminal code.
34 posted on 09/10/2012 3:48:24 PM PDT by mulder1 ("The past is prologue.")
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To: gandalftb
Task Force 20 is an elite and shadowy multi-service Special Forces unit reportedly composed of Marine Force Recon, Navy Seals, Army Delta Force and Rangers, and Air Force Special Operations personnel.
35 posted on 09/10/2012 4:13:39 PM PDT by mulder1 ("The past is prologue.")
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To: mulder1

Marchinko is a self promoting has-been that has been sitting on the sidelines since 9/11. He writes fiction from the outside looking in and has no credibility with the spec ops community.

Let Marchinko name the last reunion he was ever invited to or even crashed.


36 posted on 09/11/2012 8:11:04 AM PDT by gandalftb (The art of diplomacy says "nice doggie", until you find a bigger rock.)
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To: gandalftb

Just a quick note to say that I really appreciate your analysis.

There are some things that those of us on the outside cannot and should not know.


37 posted on 09/15/2012 12:57:52 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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