[OldPossum]

I hears ya (says the guy who worked his entire life and didn’t go to college). It is possible in most organizations to waive the college requirement when hiring. Unfortunately, most managers are lazy and just circular file all resumes that don’t list a degree. I don’t. We just hired two American HS grads to do database work, because I tested them and they are darned good at it.

The reason that many companies require a degree is because, as I understand it (big qualification here), they cannot administer written tests--read "IQ"--because of the Supreme Court's decision in 1971, "Griggs v. Duke Power." Look it up.

Because they cannot do this, they use a sheepskin as a proxy because it is generally accepted (though, I suspect, not by you) that a college graduate has a certain degree of intelligence.

[wastedyears]

And these people in their 50s and up (twice my age) in management believe that a degree is equal to intelligence?

LOL!

I’d verbally beat them down into primordial ooze.

[vet7279]

Hiring “managers” hire people like themselves. If the hiring manager went to college, the ANYONE he hires will have gone to college so trade school and school of hard knocks or military do not count. A college degree does not require Intelligence, it requires money, time and a little effort.

[jboot]

I make no statement one way or the other about the intelligence of college graduates, other than to say that assuming that they are more intelligent than non-graduates is foolish. Intelligence is not the prime criteria in hiring: skill and flexibility are far more important.

We administer skill tests. Candidates are placed in a sandbox environment and give them a slate of tasks that are ordinary and customary for the job they have applied for. If they can't perform them, they are rejected regardless of eductional acheivement. I've rejected guys with doctorates because they can't write simple queries. They weren't stupid. They just didn't have the right skillset. Our organization is currently understaffed and we don't have the bandwidth for OJT. We need skilled workers, and I don't care if they are HS grads or college grads.

[Individual Rights in NJ]

You’re both comparing apples to oranges.

I’m 30 just for context.

You both sound more like 50-60.

A high school educated is more a like a middle/elementary school education now a days.

A college education is your day is more like a non-medical Doctorate in your day.

Really it is true.

Asking a real business company to not use bachelor’s degree as a qualification is ridiculous. Do you know how easy it is to get one these days? IT IS LITERALLY A JOKE.

There are so many “institutes” and “junior colleges” and “universities” that are not more than an office or two in a building that the government has given true legitimacy too, that have the lowest standards around or cirriculums like bullshit “hugs and love” studies-— and that’s who/what you risk hiring even with that requirement.

Honestly a high school education is as good as saying “I can count to 20 trust me..... just wait till I grow two more hands”

Don’t get mad... the truth hurts, I know.