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Mom of DNC Conv Star Called Alamo Defenders “Drunks, Crooks And Slaveholding Imperialists”
Weasel Zippers ^ | September 5, 2012

Posted on 09/06/2012 5:29:19 AM PDT by NYer

How lovely.

CHARLOTTE, N.C. – The young Texas mayor whose keynote speech wowed the Democratic National Convention crowd Wednesday night draws political inspiration from his mother – who is a member of a radical civil rights movement and who reportedly thinks the truth behind the Battle of the Alamo is that Texans swiped Mexico’s land.

Maria del Rosario Castro, the mother of San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro, said in 2010 that she grew up being told the battle was “glorious,” only to learn the so-called heroes were really “a bunch of drunks and crooks and slaveholding imperialists who conquered land that didn’t belong to them.”

“But as a little girl I got the message — we were losers,” she told New York Times Magazine. “I can truly say that I hate that place and everything it stands for.”

The Alamo, then a sprawling mission for missionaries and American Indian converts, was attacked in February 1836 by Mexican General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna. Though historical accounts vary, Texans, including famous frontiersman Davy Crockett, fought back for 13 days only to surrender, on March 6.

Maria del Rosario Castro also was a member of the La Raza Unida, a radical movement that defended the civil rights of Mexican-Americans in Texas.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: alamo; castro; dnc; juliancastro; laraza; larazaunida; mexico; sanantonio
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1 posted on 09/06/2012 5:29:25 AM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

La Raza-———————————The Race.

Pretty much says it all.


2 posted on 09/06/2012 5:32:46 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: NYer
Drop kick her back to Mexico where she can scour the Country for proof America stole Texas. In fact, drop kick them all and let's clean up this mess.
3 posted on 09/06/2012 5:34:27 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: NYer

The twisted mentality of many on the left is mindboggling and simply staggering! This country is so in for a frakin; worse than the frakin’ it is currently experiencing under this current adminstration. =.=


4 posted on 09/06/2012 5:34:41 AM PDT by cranked
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To: NYer
>> “a bunch of drunks and crooks and slaveholding imperialists who conquered land that didn’t belong to them.” [...] “But as a little girl I got the message — we were losers,” she told New York Times Magazine. “I can truly say that I hate that place and everything it stands for.”

SnakeDoc

5 posted on 09/06/2012 5:38:01 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens, Justified)
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To: NYer
“I can truly say that I hate that place and everything it stands for.”

Haters gonna hate.

6 posted on 09/06/2012 5:38:11 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: NYer

And this little sprout of the fat, repulsive radical La Raza mother is now the mayor of one of the biggest sucklings on the government teat, San Antonio. If that city were just a little closer to the border, we could just give it back to Mexico. Texas would be much better off without it.

It would be much cheaper for the U.S. taxpayer than paying for every child in the entire San Antonio ISD to be on “free” lunches, all the Section 8 housing where squatters from Mexico can live for free and eat for free on WIC and food stamps, and they also cash in on free medical care. San Antonio is as big a welfare sink hole as you will find in the USA.


7 posted on 09/06/2012 5:38:18 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: NYer
The Alamo, then a sprawling mission for missionaries and American Indian converts

That is factually incorrect. Mission San Antonio de Valero, aka the Alamo, ceased functioning as a mission and a house of worship in 1794.

8 posted on 09/06/2012 5:44:04 AM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: NYer

Did the Castro boys have a father?


9 posted on 09/06/2012 5:45:31 AM PDT by Dudoight
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Another dem "star" with radicals in his background. The RUP is a fine group, who like so many DNC related groups hate Jews even more than they hate whites. Though it generally can't be posted from here, I doubt the admins will mind if I link their rag, La Voz de Aztlan for those who want a taste of the ideology. From their early days, the "community organizers" learning from the source.


10 posted on 09/06/2012 5:46:14 AM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
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To: Dudoight

Yes - Jessie Guzman


11 posted on 09/06/2012 5:47:28 AM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

“I can truly say that I hate that place and everything it stands for.”

Looks like a campaign poster against Castro to me. Will the San Antonio Repubs use it? Probably not....


12 posted on 09/06/2012 5:49:52 AM PDT by jch10 (America needs some R and R!)
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To: liberalh8ter; cranked; Venturer
Drop kick her back to Mexico ...

According to Wikipedia, His mother was a Chicano political activist who helped establish the Chicano political party La Raza Unida which means "The United Race".[4] She ran unsuccessfully for San Antonio City Council in 1971.[2]

13 posted on 09/06/2012 5:50:42 AM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: Dudoight
Did the Castro boys have a father?

Some additional research reveals, according to Wikipedia, ... His father, Jessie Guzman, was a community activist in the 1970s and a retired math teacher. Never married, Rosie and Jessie separated when Castro was eight years old.[4]

14 posted on 09/06/2012 5:52:34 AM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer
“But as a little girl I got the message — we were losers,” she told New York Times Magazine.

By "we" she means Mexicans.

I highly doubt that she was told that Mexicans lost the Battle of the Alamo.

15 posted on 09/06/2012 5:52:50 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: NYer

” - - - Maria del Rosario Castro, the mother of San Antonio Mayor Julian Castro - - - “

Duh, the Alamo is in San Antonio.


16 posted on 09/06/2012 5:55:50 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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"...a member of a radical civil rights movement and who reportedly thinks the truth behind the Battle of the Alamo is that Texans swiped Mexico’s land."

Yada, yada, yada...and Mexico swiped the land from Spain. And they swiped the land from the Yaqui, who swiped it from the Totonacs. And they swiped it from Aztecs, who swiped it from the Olmecs, who got it after they whupped up on the Maya or whoever. Being on the losing side of history sucks, doesn't it? Cry me a river.
17 posted on 09/06/2012 6:02:05 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: NYer

Sounds like she and Stanley Ann Dunham were separated at birth.


18 posted on 09/06/2012 6:03:20 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: NYer

So, General Santa Anna was a good man who loved the people he ruled?

Nonsense.

He was a tinpot dictator who cared only for himself.


19 posted on 09/06/2012 6:07:31 AM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama Can't Count.)
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To: NYer

What Hispanic Ku Klux Klan racism! If she felt she was on the “losing side” of the Alamo, she can take her Gringo-hating self back to that Third World Latrine to the south

Anti-White, Anti-Semite....the DNC


20 posted on 09/06/2012 6:12:10 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (When is Fox News gonna fire Karl Rove?)
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To: NYer

I guess she would rather her sons be, at best, crooked Mexican politicians. If Mexico had kept Texas her people would have just migrated farther north.


21 posted on 09/06/2012 6:20:09 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (CREDO QUIA ABSURDUM)
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To: NYer
the so-called heroes were really “a bunch of drunks and crooks and slaveholding imperialists who conquered land that didn’t belong to them.”

Actually, not a bad description of a good many of the men who fought there. It was well known at the time that quite a few of the Texas settlers had chosen to leave the US because of legal problems, family issues, debts, etc. As had many of the Americans who came, mostly from the South, to fight for Texas.

Just like most men who choose to leave a settled community and strike out into the beyond. Most do so because things, for one reason or another, aren't comfortable for them where they are.

They were, as a group, most certainly slaveholders, or at least aspired to be. Mexican attempts to end slavery was one of the major irritants in the relationship between the settlers and the government.

Imperialists, certainly, depending on how you define the term. Most of those who were settlers took up land without any intention of honoring the terms for doing so: allegiance to Mexico and converting the Catholicism. The Americans, like Davy Crockett, who came to fight with them did so with the intention of taking the land from Mexico.

"Land that didn't belong to them." Someone is going to have make a moral case why the land belonged to Mexico, which had only been around for 25 years and never had effective control of the area. The Mexican case is based on stealing it from the Spanish King, who stole it from the Indians. All perfectly legitimate, but Texans stealing it from Mexico somehow is unfair.

The silliest part of her argument is that they weren't heroes. As if other heroes down through history were shining exemplars of every virtue. Heroes are just men, and as a rule show the failings of their age. The Spartans who died at Thermopylae were probably not very nice guys, as Sparta was not a very nice place, but they were no less heroic.

Her version also ignores the facts of Santa Ana's rise to power and atrocities against other sections of Mexico that resisted his dictatorship.

IOW, it's a much more complex and interesting story than either: Americans good, Mexicans bad OR Mexicans good, Americans bad.

At least six of the men who died defending the Alamo were native hispano Tejanos.

22 posted on 09/06/2012 6:20:50 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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Stupidity and ignorance are always a bad mix!!!


23 posted on 09/06/2012 6:31:11 AM PDT by ontap
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To: NYer

Home is where the heart is.


24 posted on 09/06/2012 6:35:28 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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"a bunch of drunks and crooks and slaveholding imperialists"

you know; white people.

25 posted on 09/06/2012 6:37:05 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: RexBeach

I’ve never been so proud that great-great grandpappy was one of the Texicans who hauled Stana Anna’s sorry behind to General Houston. San Antonio used to be a nice little city but with freaks like these running the place, it’s no wonder that the police admit they have no control over the gangs.


26 posted on 09/06/2012 6:44:47 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Sherman Logan

Thanks for that considered response.

When anyone wants to assert the legitimacy of Mexican rule over Texas, and Santa Ana’s dictatorship, I refer them to the bloody genocide waged at the same time in the Yucatan, the Caste Wars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste_War_of_Yucat%C3%A1n

Perhaps Ms Castro does not include the Maya in her “Raza”?


27 posted on 09/06/2012 6:50:14 AM PDT by ThirdMate
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To: PGR88
Separated at birth.


28 posted on 09/06/2012 6:50:52 AM PDT by bgill
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To: NYer

These Castro guys need to be buried, before they become the Hispanic Obama. People were too nice with Obama when he first gained prominence, and then he got too popular to stop. We cannot make that same mistake again. As Barney Fife said, “You gotta nip it in the bud.”


29 posted on 09/06/2012 6:52:59 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: NYer

“The Alamo, then a sprawling mission for missionaries and American Indian converts, was attacked in February 1836 by Mexican General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna. Though historical accounts vary, Texans, including famous frontiersman Davy Crockett, fought back for 13 days only to surrender, on March 6.”

WRONG!!! The Americans at the Alamo never surrendered! They were finally overrun by Santa Ana’s 5,000 strong army and no quarter was given. The Mexicans played “Daguello” meaning `cut-throat’, after the Texans refused to surrender without a fight. A few civilians were the only survivors.

As for Mamacita Castro, her view of Texas & the Alamo is not that uncommon among the Chicano community.


30 posted on 09/06/2012 6:58:30 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!)
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To: NYer

FUMC


31 posted on 09/06/2012 7:09:10 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: NYer

I wonder how the high school and college history books in San Antonio describe the Spanish-American War and formation of Texas ???


32 posted on 09/06/2012 7:09:47 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Sherman Logan

“...settlers had chosen to leave the US because of legal problems, family issues, debts, etc. ..”

Certainly all of that is true to a point, but many went west for he simple reason of seeking a new life, new opportunities and the adventure of settling in a new location of their choice.


33 posted on 09/06/2012 7:18:11 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: liberalh8ter

I am sure she will demand Mexico, stolen by Hernán Cortés, be given back to the Aztecs.


34 posted on 09/06/2012 7:20:14 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (6 November, 2012, the day our embarrassment is sent back to Kenya.)
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To: elcid1970

“WRONG!!! The Americans at the Alamo never surrendered!”

Thank you! You save me the trouble of pointing out that egregious and offensive error by the reporter.


35 posted on 09/06/2012 7:26:24 AM PDT by LaserJock
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To: NYer
This is the result of hyphenation, we are either Americans or Mexican- Americans.
36 posted on 09/06/2012 7:35:50 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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“I can truly say that I hate that place and everything it stands for.”

Never mind that the flag flying over the Alamo was a Mexican tricolor with the number ‘1824’ on it, because the defenders wanted a return to the Mexican constitution of 1824 and the end of military dictatorship.

Never mind that a number of the defenders were Latins, or that Santa Anna had to suppress mestizos all over Mexico who were trying to throw off his dictatorship.

Ugly, stupid, ignorant bigot. Stump broke even for DEAD dictators. Peon.


37 posted on 09/06/2012 7:42:59 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ( "I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me." Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: NYer

Now we know to whom Gorda Maria pledges allegiance.


38 posted on 09/06/2012 7:44:38 AM PDT by windsorknot
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To: SJackson

The Aztlan clowns crack me up, always doing their histrionics in Spanish instead of Nahuatl.


39 posted on 09/06/2012 7:45:43 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ( "I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me." Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: PowderMonkey
"Yada, yada, yada...and Mexico swiped the land from Spain. And they swiped the land from the Yaqui, who swiped it from the Totonacs. And they swiped it from Aztecs, who swiped it from the Olmecs, who got it after they whupped up on the Maya or whoever. Being on the losing side of history sucks, doesn't it? Cry me a river."

I've always said, how long are people going to cry about past history? Colonialism originates from time immemorial. It's all but dead now, excluding small efforts by various dictators in Africa, Asia, South America.

Being of Scottish heritage, maybe I should put in my request for reparations to England before the Irish do. I'd like to beat the rush. Maybe I should make the same request to Italy (home of the Roman Empire) because of their colonization of Briton. Maybe I can go further back and whine for mo' money.

40 posted on 09/06/2012 7:47:32 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet

Spain (and then Mexico) took Texas from the Comanches.

If you’re looking to return it to someone, return it to them.


41 posted on 09/06/2012 8:47:20 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: bgill

Hooray for your great great grandfather. I refuse to think of Jim Bowie and Davie Crockett anything but the heroes they are were!

My Houston relatives tell me Santa Ana was defeated because he was in a tent with one of his 14 year old female “friends!” And had no time to order his troops into battle.

A big shoutout to the Texicans!


42 posted on 09/06/2012 8:55:04 AM PDT by jayrunner
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To: bgill

Hooray for your great great grandfather. I refuse to think of Jim Bowie and Davie Crockett anything but the heroes they are (were)!

My Houston relatives tell me Santa Ana was defeated because he was in a tent with one of his 14 year old female “friends!” And had no time to order his troops into battle.

A big shoutout to the Texicans!


43 posted on 09/06/2012 8:55:31 AM PDT by jayrunner
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Hence our other state song, “The Yellow Rose of Texas.” The “yellow rose” was a “high yellow” free black woman whom Santa Ana had captured. She most likely wasn’t entertaining him on her initiative but from his orders. Still, she was enough of a distraction that the Battle of San Jacinto caught him with his pants on the ground, literally.


44 posted on 09/06/2012 9:48:57 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Liz; La Lydia; AuntB

La Raza PING


45 posted on 09/06/2012 9:59:24 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: NYer

Nineteenth century romantic “blood and soil” ideology at its finest.


46 posted on 09/06/2012 10:47:56 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: elcid1970
The Mexicans played “Daguello” meaning `cut-throat’, after the Texans refused to surrender without a fight.

I thought that came out in 1979.

47 posted on 09/06/2012 10:52:45 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: NYer

The mother looks like Jabba da Hut.


48 posted on 09/06/2012 11:47:34 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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Daguello was in fact the Mexican army’s signal that no mercy would be shown.

If I were a Mexican soldier & heard that played, I would be thinking “Caramba! We have just told the enemy they have nothing to lose by fighting to the last man. Like that’s going to make our job any easier! Muchas gracias para nada, senor general!!”


49 posted on 09/06/2012 12:05:26 PM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!)
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To: elcid1970

Heh Heh, I think playing “I’m Bad...I’m Nationwide” would have the same effect.


50 posted on 09/06/2012 12:06:43 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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