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Rep. Ellison: GOP 'basically a bigoted party'
The Hill ^ | 9/6/12 | Justin Sink

Posted on 09/06/2012 12:13:04 PM PDT by Impala64ssa

Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) blasted Republicans for including a plank in their convention platform targeting Shariah law in an interview with Mother Jones Wednesday, blasting the language as "an expression of bigotry."

"There has never been any legislation offered to establish Shariah law — not at the federal level, not at the state level. There's not been a municipal ordinance opposing this, there's not been anything," said Ellison, the nation's first Muslim member of Congress.

The Republican platform included language demanding "no use of foreign law by U.S. courts in interpreting our Constitution and laws."

"Nor should foreign sources of law be used in State courts; adjudication of criminal or civil matters," the platform continues in a section championed by Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who has been outspoken in his concern that the moral code of Islam could be playing a greater role in the American justice system.

Ellison blasted Republicans as "the party of hate" for having "demonstrated hatred towards Muslims" in adopting the language.

"I'm sad that they have decided to go into this dark, ugly place where they see the whole world as their enemy," Ellison said. "And this is the thing: I don't mind debating taxes and spending; we probably should. But they're the party that is basically a bigoted party and they have now officially declared themselves against a whole segment of the American population, because if we said we were going to put a plank opposing Jewish law, or Catholic canon, it would be an outrage. This is also an outrage. But you know, it'll pass."

Platform language has taken an increasingly prominent role at the conventions, with both political parties accusing the other side of adopting inappropriate language.

Democrats amended their party platform Wednesday afternoon to reinsert language supporting Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, with multiple reports saying the president personally intervened to have the language reinstated after criticism from Republicans. But the floor vote was contentious, with Convention Chairman and Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa needing three tries at a voice-vote before declaring in favor of the changes.

Republicans also ripped Democrats from excluding mention of God from their political platform; that language was also reinserted during the floor vote.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islamiclaw; keithellison; mosqueandstate; sharia; sharialaw; theocraticrule
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To: Impala64ssa
bigot (ˈbɪɡət) — n a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race [C16: from Old French: name applied contemptuously to the Normans by the French, of obscure origin] What Ellison will never admit is that Islam is more a poltical ideology than a religion, and it expects--it requires--that the societies it occupies accomodate it, rather than muslims assimilating into the society. We are locked in a death struggle with muslims. Whether you will admit it or not, they recognize this fact. When a member of the American Islamic bund or American Mexican bund accuses any American of being a "bigot," I would hold up a hand mirror and invite them to take a look at the real bigot.
21 posted on 09/06/2012 12:32:10 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: TurboZamboni
Can you imagine the media response to a ‘Vote White’ button at the RNC?

Well.... here's a photo of a party just prior to the Dem Convention, in a basement at PMSNBC. Apparently their only crime was that Chris Matthews ID'd them as Martians.


22 posted on 09/06/2012 12:37:08 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Impala64ssa

There is something of a legal paradox here.

To start with, the US along with other western nations has long recognized the authority of ecclesiastical courts over their followers who both accept, without coercion, the authority of those courts, *and* whose ruling are not in conflict with secular law. Likewise, secular courts reserve the right to take appeals from ecclesiastical courts when any party before those courts objects to the outcome as unjust.

That is, they are wholly voluntary from beginning to end.

However, this being said, the most serious threat being considered by this law is not religious, but the secular law of other nations.

No fewer than two justices of the Supreme Court of the United States have come out to say that the federal judiciary *should* feel free to consult foreign legal cases before decided US law, *as long* as their decision can be justified with US legal precedent.

Now wait a damn minute!

This is the *real* reason the Republicans included in their platform: “No use of foreign law by U.S. courts in interpreting our Constitution and laws.” As far as they are concerned, if there is no judicial precedent in the US for a judge to reach their decision, they either have to use their own logic to develop it, or state that it is outside of their authority.

Importantly, this puts a lot of efforts at internationalism to the blocks. There will be NO “gray area” between US and international law. It will either be one or the other.

Now this being said, what about Sharia law?

It fails in several of the tests applied to other ecclesiastical laws.

1) It is not free of coercion.
2) Its rulings are *mostly* in conflict with secular law.
3) It veils its activities in secrecy, often with whimsical decisions, and maintains no orderly record that could be used in an appeal to a secular court. It is not objective in any way, nor is there equality before the law.
4) It uses repugnant axioms to reach judgments, axioms that no secular court would agree to.

As such, it fails as a legal system.


23 posted on 09/06/2012 12:38:33 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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24 posted on 09/06/2012 12:39:59 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Exterminate rats.)
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To: max americana
Yeah, something about this religion where the prophet starts raping a 9 year old girl and marrying the kid

Yes, but there is always a silver lining.

For instance: There were a lot of happy 9 year old boys who could finally sleep at night, after Muhammmmmmm....mmmmmmm....ed married the little girl.

25 posted on 09/06/2012 12:40:57 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Impala64ssa

So says an Islamic supremacist.


26 posted on 09/06/2012 12:41:10 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The guy who was going to stop the rise of the oceans now canÂ’t even fend off a few raindrops.)
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To: Impala64ssa

“There has never been any legislation offered to establish Shariah law — not at the federal level, not at the state level. There’s not been a municipal ordinance opposing this, there’s not been anything,”

Of course Keith can’t say the same thing for all of the countries in Europe that have a higher Muslim population than we do, since Shariah law has been proposed in ALL of those countries. He just wants us stupid infidels to think that it won’t happen here.


27 posted on 09/06/2012 12:47:20 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Impala64ssa

Blacks join Islam because it provides a cover for their own racism.
Islam is the religion of hate and every black man who joins is filled with hate for the white man.

Ellison is himself eaten up with racism and hate, for a bigot like him to call republicans hateful would normally be humorous, but coming from this idiot it is the height of idiocy.

By the way Ellison and other Black Islamics are not Islamic just a pack of hateful racist a-holes usinf Islam for their own purposes.They don’t really believe in that Allah BS they spout.


28 posted on 09/06/2012 12:47:40 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Impala64ssa

He lies, how do I know? he’s a Muslim radical.


29 posted on 09/06/2012 12:48:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Article VI:

“This Constitution . . . Laws, . . . Treaties . . . shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the judges in every State shall be bound thereby . . . “

‘Nuff said.


30 posted on 09/06/2012 12:53:40 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Exterminate rats.)
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To: Impala64ssa; henkster
Is it me, or does it occur to anyone else that the only people in the United States who obsess about race are black people?

Blacks are more racist than Whites

~ Larry Elder, "The Ten Things You Can't Say In America"

31 posted on 09/06/2012 12:54:45 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: Venturer

This explaination makes a lot of sense. Thanx!


32 posted on 09/06/2012 12:55:15 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Keith Ellison is a Muslim (he took his congressional oath with his hand on the Koran) and a rabid leftist. His predictably terming opposition to any use of ‘foreign law’ stated in the Republican platform as ‘hate’ is the usual leftist hot air. The guy is a race-obsessed loon.


33 posted on 09/06/2012 12:57:40 PM PDT by Jim Scott (Obama must be defeated)
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To: Impala64ssa

A Fluken raghead just called me a bigot! Awesome! I’m so honored that a raghead hates me because the feeling is mutual. I’m one of those who hasn’t forgotten about 9-11-01 and has gone back to being obsessed with, “What’s in it for me?”.


34 posted on 09/06/2012 1:03:15 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (On 5 September 2012 A.D., the communist Democrats tried to kill God and failed.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Democrats are evil morons. Look no further for proof than idiots like Ellis.


35 posted on 09/06/2012 1:06:52 PM PDT by Bullish (Liars aren't always thieves but thieves are ALWAYS liars)
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To: henkster
Is it me, or does it occur to anyone else that the only people in the United States who obsess about race are black people?

Mexican's are just as bad they're just not as vocal about it.

36 posted on 09/06/2012 1:15:21 PM PDT by Bullish (Liars aren't always thieves but thieves are ALWAYS liars)
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To: UCANSEE2

The United States was founded on that principle:

Others, again, more rationally, define a republic to signify only a government, in which all men, rich and poor, magistrates and subjects, officers and people, masters and servants, the first citizen and the last, are equally subject to the laws. This, indeed, appears to be the true and only true definition of a republic. - John Adams

The idea that the Muslims would have their own laws, the Christians, their own, the Jews their own, etc. is anti-republican.


37 posted on 09/06/2012 1:43:39 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Jacquerie

Yes, but the schemer justices were very precise that their decisions would only be based on US law and precedent. But in reaching those decisions, they would examine foreign legal decisions.

Yes, it’s underhanded. But remember that these justices can only be removed by impeachment and conviction. So if they can muster 5 votes to undermine the constitution (like Roe v. Wade), they can.

But they can be checked by congress ahead of time, since they have the constitutional authority to determine how the judiciary conduct their business.

So if congress passes a law forbidding federal judges from doing this, it can to a great extent forbid them from acting like weasels in this case.


38 posted on 09/06/2012 2:01:26 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Impala64ssa

“Rep. Ellison: GOP ‘basically a bigoted party’”

If being anti-Islam makes me a “bigot”, so be it.

Islam is incompatible with Western freedom and with all other bona fide religions in the world (I do NOT consider Islam to be a “bona fide” religion).

No respect is shown for the concepts of Western freedom in the Islamic world.

It borders on suicidal insanity for Westerners to tolerate or accept Islam in The West.

Congressmen Ellison, you don’t belong in my country.


39 posted on 09/06/2012 2:02:54 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Impala64ssa

Rep. Ellison, why don’t YOU take the stage at the DNC and speak on what YOUR religion teaches about homosexuality?


40 posted on 09/06/2012 3:08:39 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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