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To: DiogenesLamp

You obviously never studied (or did well) in History. The founders and framers of this country LOVED their heritage; they did not appreciate the lack of REPRESENTATION! Get a clue!

Every child I know rebels in some way against their parents. In your mind I guess that means they HATE their parents and disregard the values they were taught? They would adopt French law instead? Are you freakin serious?

Why would anyone remain loyal to a country who treated them like crap?

Most of the founders were born or had roots in England.

Thomas Jefferson’s mother was English.

Can I be more clear?


58 posted on 09/06/2012 2:39:37 PM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: New Jersey Realist
You obviously never studied (or did well) in History. The founders and framers of this country LOVED their heritage; they did not appreciate the lack of REPRESENTATION! Get a clue!

Every child I know rebels in some way against their parents. In your mind I guess that means they HATE their parents and disregard the values they were taught? They would adopt French law instead?

The principles of natural law based on the existing philosophers of the time happened to be Written in French, but Vattel's principles were not describing French law, he was describing a theoretical ideal form of government which he believe ought to follow the principles which he laid forth. That French law happened to coincide on one particular point is irrelevant. Vattel was Swiss by the way. He happened to write in French because during that time period, French was the language of Diplomacy.

Your ignorance in making the assumption which you did indicates that you really haven't studied this information.

Are you freakin serious?

Why would anyone remain loyal to a country who treated them like crap?

They didn't. That's why they created new laws regarding American citizenship that look nothing like English laws on Subjectude.

Most of the founders were born or had roots in England.

Thomas Jefferson’s mother was English.

Can I be more clear?

I doubt it. You are currently playing the role of the ignorant little child lecturing the Historian about affairs of which you know not. Clarity is the least of your problem.

I suspect you know less than 1/10th of my own personal knowledge of this part of History, but I encourage you to learn a great deal more, starting with the affair of the ship "Horizon" and the subsequent situation of James McClure, who though having been born in South Carolina in 1785, was rejected as an American citizen by his government because his English father did not naturalize until two months AFTER he was born.

Study up.

73 posted on 09/06/2012 3:36:04 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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