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To: Mr Rogers
No one gives a crap about your stupid court cases. Most of the court cases you cite have been polluted by the influence of British Trained lawyers expounding on their understanding of BRITISH law, while assuming American law is the same. This judicial comedy of errors has compounded itself over the years, till we are left with the absurd notion that "Anchor babies" are "natural citizens."

Explain the case of James McClure. Why did the US Ambassador to France (John Armstrong) refuse to recognize his claim of American citizenship even though he was born in South Carolina? Why did the US Government allow the man to languish in French custody for three years if they thought he was a U.S. Citizen? It is because the official position of the US Government (Under James Madison at the time) was that the man was NOT a US Citizen, regardless of the fact that he was born in South Carolina.

There are few Equal in understanding of the US Constitution to James Madison, and if it was *HIS* official position that the man was not a citizen, why should we give a crap what any other so-called authority thinks?

In 1807, Madison was furiously writing to England protesting the impressment of American citizens into the British Navy. One would think that someone with so much concern about holding Americans against their will could have instructed his Ambassador John Armstrong to get James McClure released.

While we're on this subject, John Armstrong was a delegate to the Continental congress in 1787-1788, so he d*mned well OUGHT to know what was meant by the term "Natural born citizen." He concluded that James McClure wasn't even a "citizen", let alone a "natural born citizen."

63 posted on 09/06/2012 3:08:44 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“No one gives a crap about your stupid court cases.”

Actually, every sane person cares about what the US Supreme Court has ruled. That is why all 50 states agree I’m right. That is why 535 out of 535 members of Congress agree. And that is why every court agrees. Because I am right.

“Explain the case of James McClure.”

In 1811, he was arrested and held as a British citizen. He had been born in America, left at age 10 where he lived in England.

As Secretary of State, James Monroe wrote to France to assure them he was, in fact, a US citizen and thus should be released:

“Sir
I have the honor to enclose several affidavits and certificates just handed to me by Mr. Cheves the Representative in Congress from the City of Charleston proving that James McClure now detained in France as a British Prisoner of War was born in Charleston since the Revolution. To these Papers is annexed a Certificate of W[illiam] Johnson Esq. one of the Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States before whom the affidavits were taken stating “that agreeable to the laws and usage of the United States, the said affidavits and Certificates are sufficient to establish the fact that James M McClure above named is a Citizen of the United States.” As such he must be considered by this Government. You will therefore interpose your good offices in his behalf and obtain his release from confinement as soon as possible.

I have [the honor]
James Monroe”

Please note the justification for calling him a US citizen: “was born in Charleston since the Revolution”...


72 posted on 09/06/2012 3:31:23 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberalism: "Ex faslo quodlibet" - from falseness, anything follows)
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