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To: i88schwartz
This is a man who gave one of the great speeches of our time in 2004.

I defy anyone to come up with a quote from that "great" speech. There was nothing memorable about it. The only notable thing was that an unknown black guy from Chicago came out and delivered something with cadence. The 2004 speech itself was not quotable or significant.

14 posted on 09/06/2012 8:55:21 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I distinctly remember obozo said the “oceans will stop rising and the planet will heal”. snort)))))) Did he repeat that tonight?
29 posted on 09/06/2012 9:01:37 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: ClearCase_guy

‘We will look back that today was the day when we stopped the rise of the oceons...’


63 posted on 09/06/2012 9:19:47 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’ve asked several people who raved about obama’s speech in 2004 what he said and none of them have a clue.


70 posted on 09/06/2012 9:22:39 PM PDT by Terry Mross (2016 THE MOVIE....scarier than any zombie movie.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

His 2004 was good. At a time where things were wildly partisan, following 2000 and the anti war crap, he rolled in with the ‘no red states, no blue states, just the United States’. It was total bs, based on his world view, but it was an intriguing speech. Everything he did from that moment on was crap in my opinion, but that was a pretty good speech and had a message that resonated.

Looking back now on 2008, he actually gave a good one after winning Iowa. It was pure hope and change. In the weeks after, as the media and Hillary started pushing for specifics, it became abundantly clear his beliefs were radical left, but until he was forced to get more specific, it was closer to the 2004 rhetoric.

I am the farthest thing from and Obama fan, I find him to have a borderline to fullbread narcissistic third world dictators mindset, but I won’t deny he has honed his skills as a persuasive politician to grab power.


75 posted on 09/06/2012 9:27:33 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: ClearCase_guy

“This is a man who gave one of the great speeches of our time in 2004.”

“I defy anyone to come up with a quote from that “great” speech.”

Actually the 2004 DNC convention was a great speech. You can look it up. It was what got Obama attention by party leaders. He said that there is no red America or blue America only a red, white and blue America.

He implied that he was a post-racial black candidate and people liked that. He sounded sort of like ML King, bringing the nation together. People wanted someone to lead the nation and heal our divisions. He sounded good. But, it was just show.

All of his other speeches (except the Gifford’s speech) since have been globalism, environmentalism, socialism, class warfare and anti-American hard left liberalism.


112 posted on 09/06/2012 9:59:02 PM PDT by garjog
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