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Cleaning Up the Economy (Paul Krugmnan)
New York Times ^ | September 6, 2012 | By PAUL KRUGMAN

Posted on 09/07/2012 6:39:33 AM PDT by lbryce

Bill Clinton’s speech at the Democratic National Convention was a remarkable combination of pretty serious wonkishness — has there ever been a convention speech with that much policy detail? — and memorable zingers. Perhaps the best of those zingers was his sarcastic summary of the Republican case for denying President Obama re-election: “We left him a total mess. He hasn’t cleaned it up fast enough. So fire him and put us back in.”

Great line. But is the mess really getting cleaned up?

The answer, I would argue, is yes. The next four years are likely to be much better than the last four years — unless misguided policies create another mess.

In saying this, I’m not making excuses for the past. Job growth has been much slower and unemployment much higher than it should have been, even given the mess Mr. Obama inherited. More on that later. But, first, let’s look at what has been accomplished.

On Inauguration Day 2009, the U.S. economy faced three main problems. First, and most pressing, there was a crisis in the financial system, with many of the crucial channels of credit frozen; we were, in effect, suffering the 21st-century version of the bank runs that brought on the Great Depression. Second, the economy was taking a major hit from the collapse of a gigantic housing bubble. Third, consumer spending was being held down by high levels of household debt, much of which had been run up during the Bush-era bubble.

always led by a housing boom — and given the excess home construction that took place during the bubble, that just wasn’t going to happen. Meanwhile, households were trying (or being forced by creditors) to pay down debt, which meant depressed demand. So the economy’s free fall ended, but recovery remained sluggish.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: paulkrugman
The answer, I would argue, is yes. The next four years are likely to be much better than the last four years — unless misguided policies create another mess.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
First of all, how does he know that the next four years are likely to be much better? But, even so he qualifies the next four better years with a doozy of a qualifier that unless misguided policies create another mess, we won't be getting those next four years he says will be better. And why give an inept,unqualified moron for more years if he's shown not to have a clue about economic matters.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING REMOTELY SANE AND LEVEL-HEADED ABOUT WHAT KRUGMAN JUST SAID PLEASE SEND IT TO THE KRUGMAN FOR PRESIDENT 2016

Spoken like a true award winning economist/ Obama apologit.

1 posted on 09/07/2012 6:39:34 AM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Krugman and Obama both won Nobel Prizes for the same thing: BEING WRONG ALL OF THE TIME.


2 posted on 09/07/2012 6:46:11 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: lbryce

Nobody will remember Clinton’s speech in a week, let alone 1 year. The transcript itself is a good insomnia home remedy. More likely to hear further on Clint Eastwood and chairs than any bit of trivial rambling errata from the other old guy at the conventions, vouched in the course of a pointless self-regarding oration.


3 posted on 09/07/2012 6:51:47 AM PDT by ash-housewares
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To: jdsteel

What color is the sky on Planet Krugman? He’s not looking at the same reality I am.


4 posted on 09/07/2012 6:52:08 AM PDT by henkster (We're the slaves of the phony leaders...)
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To: lbryce

Krugman is the problem. Three generations of deficit spending, uncontrolled borrowing, unfunded entitlements, non sustainable debt and governmental restraints on productive capitalism has led to economic catastrophe. Krugman and his liberal political acolytes have bought us misery. His ilk, Bernacke, and the rest of the so called economic gurus have worsened the situation. Their financial gimmickry is meant to maintain the non productive consumption and the faux lifestyles. They are merely squandering more capital. Krugman is a dangerous schizoid with undue influence. Bernacke will be judged by historians as the worst public official ever to be appointed to high office.


5 posted on 09/07/2012 6:55:48 AM PDT by allendale
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To: jdsteel

Krugman is a unethical economist who purposely lies about the underlying stats to support his always wrong conclusions.I think he may have slept through Economics 101. Ever notice the guy never looks anyone in the eye when he is lying which is pretty much always


6 posted on 09/07/2012 6:58:25 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: lbryce

The first thing needed to clean up the economy is to get rid of economic suicide bombers like Krugman.


7 posted on 09/07/2012 7:06:42 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: lbryce
“We left him a total mess. He hasn’t cleaned it up fast enough. So fire him and put us back in.”

Trouble is, the guy saying this [Clinton] is the one most responsible for the mess. It was his administration that blew Carter's CRA up into monstrous proportions and led to the catastrophic overleveraging of Fannie and Freddie.

8 posted on 09/07/2012 7:10:44 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: lbryce
In saying this, I’m not making excuses for the past.

Sure, you're not. Suuuuuuuuuuuuure.

9 posted on 09/07/2012 7:11:02 AM PDT by sauropod (Only two of God's creatures can employ the term "we": newspaper editors and men with tapeworms-Hayes)
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To: lbryce
“We left him a total mess. He hasn’t cleaned it up fast enough. So fire him and put us back in.”

COMPLETELY INVALID PREMISE!!

If I hear one more time that Obama inherited a mess without someone SCREAMING that the Democrats held Congress since 2007 AND Obama was IN Congress and that they were directly responsible for MOST of the mess, I may lose it.

10 posted on 09/07/2012 7:12:40 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (We the People are coming!!)
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To: lbryce
The next four years are likely to be much better than the last four years — unless misguided policies create another mess.

Hmm. Let us carefully examine a possible example of "misguided policies".

Paul Krugman Calls for Space Aliens to Attack Earth

PAUL KRUGMAN, NEW YORK TIMES: Think about World War II, right? That was actually negative social product spending, and yet it brought us out.

I mean, probably because you want to put these things together, if we say, "Look, we could use some inflation." Ken and I are both saying that, which is, of course, anathema to a lot of people in Washington but is, in fact, what fhe basic logic says.

It's very hard to get inflation in a depressed economy. But if you had a program of government spending plus an expansionary policy by the Fed, you could get that. So, if you think about using all of these things together, you could accomplish, you know, a great deal.

If we discovered that, you know, space aliens were planning to attack and we needed a massive buildup to counter the space alien threat and really inflation and budget deficits took secondary place to that, this slump would be over in 18 months. And then if we discovered, oops, we made a mistake, there aren't any aliens, we'd be better –

ROGOFF: And we need Orson Welles, is what you're saying.

KRUGMAN: No, there was a "Twilight Zone" episode like this in which scientists fake an alien threat in order to achieve world peace. Well, this time, we don't need it, we need it in order to get some fiscal stimulus.

Yes, massive Keynesian spending based on a lie would be one of those massive mistakes... kind of like the entire Obama budget.

11 posted on 09/07/2012 7:14:31 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("Government is the only thing that we all belong to"=implicit repeal of the 13th amendment for all.)
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:PAUL KRUGMAN, NEW YORK TIMES: Think about World War II, right? That was actually negative social product spending, and yet it brought us out.”

Only a complete moron could claim that U.S. military expenditures during World War II, and their decisive role in the defeat of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan, had negative social value.


12 posted on 09/07/2012 7:21:35 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: henkster

Literary fellatio


13 posted on 09/07/2012 7:35:24 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: lbryce

Krugman.....he’s really smart....didn’t he win Best of Show in a cat show in Peoria?


14 posted on 09/07/2012 7:39:38 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: riverdawg
I guess Krugman fails to note that every other major industrialized nation during that time/post WWII...was smashed...making the U.S. pretty much the only game in town to buy products/materials from during a period of reconstruction...and that because of the war we already had the infrastructure in place to utilize maximum output.

But then, Krugman was always full of...sheep dip.

So is he now admitting that Roosevelt and his social policies did not get us out of the Great Depression...rather, war did?

15 posted on 09/07/2012 7:41:06 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!)
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To: lbryce
If it weren't for the NYTimes, Krugman would be a produce manager at Whole Foods, blogging about economic justice.
16 posted on 09/07/2012 7:43:40 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: lbryce

If Paul Krugman knows ANYTHING about Economics 101,then I’m the GREATEST BRAIN SURGEON in THE WORLD!What’s goint toget”MUCH BETTER IN THE NEXT 4-YEARS”?THE MESS???????????


17 posted on 09/07/2012 7:57:39 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: lbryce

Krugman joins the Choom Gang.


18 posted on 09/07/2012 8:12:49 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: lbryce

take another chug, Krug.

“History lessons: Romney vs. Obama” (Economist: Reagan Turned Around Worse Economy in only 4 years)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2927475/posts


19 posted on 09/07/2012 8:19:49 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: lbryce

No president’s second term is better than their first...ever.


20 posted on 09/07/2012 9:42:20 AM PDT by Ranald S. MacKenzie (It's the philosophy, stupid.)
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