What I heard on radio early this a.m. is that Obama has opened a 5 point lead in Ohio, citing two polls that say so. Post Dem convention.
In Ohio, given the nature of that state and its cruciality to victory, if that is actually true and holds anywhere close to that, America is already gone.
I have heard that because John Kasich has done so much good in Ohio, most people there are better off than before he became governor, and that people tend to credit OBAMA for it, rather than him.
That would suggest a level of ignorance that is truly frightening.
My guess is that Obama got a bounce but we can’t tell yet its degree or staying power. It did cause polls to move his way, but the accuracy of the measurement is unknown. And it could be more of a response to the nostalgia of Bill Clinton’s years than anything else, whatever it is.
The Clintons tend to be popular in some of those states in the Rust Belt. If they had the say, back in ‘08, it would’ve been Hillary, not Obama. Guess they forgot about Hillarycare, but what kind of a choice did they have, between two radicals?
Bottom line to remember, this latest is now being used to propagandize the nation like never before, that Obama is going to take it, You can hear the barely disguised chortle in the newsreader’s voices.
Bill Cunningham (who’s from Ohio) last night asked Trump or some other rich guy or a consortium of them, to buy tv time and run the movie “2016” right into people’s living rooms. He had just gotten through seeing the movie and said there are very few Americans who would vote for Obama after seeing it.
It being Obama’s life story and his philosophy, in Obama’s own voice as he reads from his book.
I'm an Ohioan, and this is actually true. But, it's true in the blue or purple regions of the state. The conservative regions just don't like Obama. And those who are out of work tend to blame Obama.
Kasich was very poorly served by his leader of the Ohio Senate, a guy named Tom Niehaus, who shoved a very poorly written, seriously over-reaching senate bill 5 that the liberals absolutely hammered Kasich with. Gov Kasich never got a chance to have a honeymoon, to establish his own agenda, because Niehaus had this monstrosity that got so much into the weeds that it was telling local communities how to run their fire departments, life squads, and school systems.
Niehaus destroyed Kasich's introduction to the state, the liberal unions were able to paint Kasich as an enemy of workers, Senate bill 5 went down to a flaming 60+ percent defeat, and poor Kasich had to support the darn thing in order to support his team (and this idiot Niehaus.)
Because of that, it doesn't surprise me at all that Obama is getting Kasich's credit in purple regions of the state.
I'll go further. Niehaus monstrosity was so unpopular and so memorably so that I will not be surprised if it doesn't underlie an Obama victory in this state. You've got to remember that it came on top of the previous republican administration, Taft's, being found guilty in court of misappropriation, and of Taft himself being found guilty. Some of that bad taste remains, too.
The GOP-E in this state has seriously undercut the brand name.
The poll cited in Oh over samples Dems +4. Not a realistic turn out model.
..................”or some other rich guy or a consortium of them, to buy tv time and run the movie “2016” right into people’s living rooms”..................
Spot on. This should be done.
Really? The Koolaid drinkers would be unmoved by it if they watched it; which, of course, they wouldn't.
Ease back from the ledge, hon. It’s convention bounce, and it’s transitory.
“”i have heard that because John Kasich has done so much good in Ohio, most people there are better off than before he became governor, and that people tend to credit OBAMA for it, rather than him.””
That’s the irony. In 1996, the GOP capable governors in MA, NY, NJ, PA, OH, MI, IL and CA. All those states did well with those govs and all went Clinton double digit.
I hear the Romney campaign has told Kaisch to cease and desist. Kaisch has been running around the state saying how great things are in Ohio.
The dem convention bounce was from the choir, who nobama is having big trouble with. Once the Slick thrill is faded back to reality, the bounce will be gone. The libs dull pain of being lied to will return the hopey changey enthusiasm gap.
We are getting into the serious PhyOps season before the election. If they can convince us with fake “spin” over-sample dem polls and fake news reports they win.
It is not just the convention, there is also the 09-11 effect. There is a 4-5 point “rally to the flag” effect during the anniversary of 09-11. Like it or not the fact O was in charge when the Seals got Bin Laden is going to help him in the polls for the next week or so.