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Paul Ryan's Take on Marijuana: Worthless or Desperate?
SF Weekly ^ | Mon., Sep. 10 2012 | Chris Roberts

Posted on 09/10/2012 11:32:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Edited on 09/10/2012 11:58:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Scooping up votes in swing states is how Paul Ryan serves Mitt Romney best. And what better dissatisfied liberal bloc for the Republicans to court than marijuana supporters, stunned by President Obama's total betrayal?

Hence the vice presidential candidate's stance in a college town in swinging Colorado, which will vote on legalizing marijuana at the November ballot, striking a libertarian tone to questions about marijuana enforcement. "It's up to Coloradans to decide," Ryan told Colorado Springs's KRDO. "My personal positions on this issue have been let the states decide what to do with these things.... What I've always believed is the states should decide."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cannabis; drugs; drugwar; marijuana; paulryan; warondrugs; wod; wodlist; wosd
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To: nickcarraway
Less than 1% of people in prison are there because of marijuana.

One problem I have with you totalitarian conservatives is all your conjecture. Please provide a reference to your 1% assertion.

41 posted on 09/11/2012 3:31:15 AM PDT by corkoman (Release the Palin!)
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To: nickcarraway

Let states decide - war on drugs is a nightmare and a waste of billions. Then again, this is coming from a person who reads about the great lengths people go to to sneak cocaine into the US and wonders “Who the hell even uses this stuff?” But marijuana is not cocaine.

There - I have argued with myself. Conclusion - let states decide.


42 posted on 09/11/2012 3:46:47 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: nickcarraway

You want to outlaw alcohol?


43 posted on 09/11/2012 3:49:15 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: JCBreckenridge
My mother’s a nurse. I got to walk along with her to see the detox unit from accidental overdoses.

How many of those were from marijuana? My guess is zero.

44 posted on 09/11/2012 4:01:59 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: nickcarraway

I agree. It is a states rights decision.


45 posted on 09/11/2012 4:15:42 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Hokestuk

incarceration is a multi billion dollar industry...

...and as such has really outgrown the ability of citizens of many states to support it. Especially when so many are non violent drug offenders. Count me as a long time supporter of states controlling their borders, from unconstitutional federal incursion.

Sunset clauses, or legislative revue can be effectively used for situations such as Marijuana legalization, for those who are fearful of buyers remorse.


46 posted on 09/11/2012 4:17:17 AM PDT by wita
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To: nickcarraway

States Rights and an unimportant issue at this time in History.

LLS


47 posted on 09/11/2012 4:27:44 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: liberty or death

>>They have no idea what the “Liberals” have planned.


"Marxism represents a further vital and creative stage in the maturing of man's universal vision. "
--Zbigniew Brzezinski
http://www.amazon.com/Between-Two-Ages-Zbigniew-Brzezinski/dp/0140043144

How far from ZBig Apple tree did Ian Brzezinski - a Romney foreign policy advisor - fall?

48 posted on 09/11/2012 4:41:21 AM PDT by wm25burke
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To: liberty or death

""a system that would seriously impair the brain performance of very large populations" (page 57):"
http://www.amazon.com/Between-Two-Ages-Zbigniew-Brzezinski/dp/0140043144

 

Duuuuudes!  Where's the Republic?

 

49 posted on 09/11/2012 4:49:20 AM PDT by wm25burke
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To: JCBreckenridge

My mother’s a nurse. I got to walk along with her to see the detox unit from accidental overdoses.


Accidental marijuana over doses? no, Paul Ryan is not wrong.


50 posted on 09/11/2012 4:59:57 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: nickcarraway

Ryan is 100% correct. This is a States’ rights issue, and the Feds need to close down the DEA.


51 posted on 09/11/2012 5:21:40 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: nickcarraway

They can’t. On what planet does that happen?


52 posted on 09/11/2012 5:23:00 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: JCBreckenridge

“Accidental overdoses” of marijuana? You speak with forked tongue, or your memory is faulty.


53 posted on 09/11/2012 5:24:24 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: nickcarraway
If someone gets drunk and gets in a car and kills someone, they get a fraction of the punishment they would if they were sober.

Then that aspect of the law should be addressed. If someone chooses to get blotto (on whatever) and causes harm, the penalty should be increased, not mitigated. It was their choice to become impaired and conduct the activity which harmed others which led to the problem, and the full responsibility should lie with them.

54 posted on 09/11/2012 5:48:48 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: LibLieSlayer
States Rights and an unimportant issue at this time in History.

States rights are always important to constitutional connservatives. Liberals and other collectivists may feel differently.

55 posted on 09/11/2012 5:52:58 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies
States Rights are always important... the unimportant issue that I mentioned was to worry about medical marijuana at this point in History. We have far more serious threats in our face right now.

LLS

56 posted on 09/11/2012 6:29:18 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: JCBreckenridge
I’ve had to deal with the afteraffects of drug abuse and addiction and I’m really starting to get tired of the folks who tell me that it’s all ok and they don’t have a problem when I have to clean up after them.

I am in the same clean up club as you are - on the verge of inheriting a 6-year old son of my wife's drunk brother. As a former pharma sales rep, he has the ability to convince several psychiatrists to prescribe him any number of psycotropic medication. He then proceeds to OD on them.

That doesn't mean, though, I would advocate banning all those substances (including alcohol) that he abuses; nor would I ban guns because of the those who use them unlawfully, nor do I advocate helmet laws though I wouldn't even get on my bicycle without one.

57 posted on 09/11/2012 6:40:27 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: JCBreckenridge
It’s a victimless crime until you have to deal with drug addiction in your children.

Since teens report that they can get pot more easily than beer or cigarettes, it looks like the most effective way to keep pot out of teens' hands is to legalize it for adults - so sellers have an incentive not to sell to kids (namely, the loss of their legal adult sales).

58 posted on 09/11/2012 7:41:47 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
The Drug trade is international and effective enforcement - can it really be done at the state level?

Can what really be done at the state level? If a state wants to legalize marijuana within its borders, doesn't the Tenth Amendment forbid the feds from overruling that decision?

59 posted on 09/11/2012 7:47:48 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Given the attitude of most adults seems to be ‘keep rolling out the cheech and chong’, it seems to me that enforcement is going to be ineffective when you have parents not bothering to actually parent.

And yes, I’ve dealt with this attitude from boomer parents to my drug dealing friends. Incredibly frusterating when their ‘clients’ steal from you to feed their habit and you know who’s dealing because he’s driving his shiny new car and pushing dope in the neighbourhood.

But go on - tell me how it’s a victimless crime. It’s not. First victim, the users.


60 posted on 09/11/2012 7:54:45 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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