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To: Izzy Dunne
I am soooo tired of hearing about my 'freedoms' when it comes to issues like this. My freedom to do what, exactly? Illegally download materials I'm not entitled to? My freedom to steal the creative product of actors and musicians?

Here's the thing: You don't break the laws, you're not monitored. By your logic, I shouldn't be recorded when I walk into a 7-11, even if I plan on stealing some Twinkies.

16 posted on 09/11/2012 9:40:55 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor
I am soooo tired of hearing about my 'freedoms' when it comes to issues like this. My freedom to do what, exactly? Illegally download materials I'm not entitled to? My freedom to steal the creative product of actors and musicians?

You are making bad assumptions here. There are legitimate programs distributed this way: I believe BeOS, OpenVMS, and some Linux distros all have official bit-torrents. Then there's [media] releases by independent groups, as mentioned on up-thread, who are literally giving their stuff away. Finally, there's the unfortunate instance where you have a program [possibly outdated] whose master media has become corrupted: should you have to go and buy another copy [assuming you can find one] even if you have all the original disks/packaging/etc?

You are starting with an invalid assumption: that file-sharing is theft. That is as stupid as assuming that the gun's purpose is murder.

18 posted on 09/11/2012 9:50:18 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: thefactor

If you have ever exceeded the speed limit, please go down and turn yourself in.


22 posted on 09/11/2012 10:24:46 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: thefactor
I should have said "privacy" rather than "freedom", as that is closer to what I meant.

You don't break the laws, you're not monitored.

Oh that's real handy. They only monitor the ones who break the law, do they?

And just how is it that they know which ones to monitor?

By your logic,

Don't put words in my mouth. I mentioned a few things that you should consider, since you said you were unable to make up your own mind.

30 posted on 09/11/2012 11:15:40 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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