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EXCLUSIVE: Long-awaited 'Furious' report places blame on ATF, Justice
FoxNews ^ | 9/11/12 | William La Jeunesse

Posted on 09/11/2012 12:51:05 PM PDT by Jean S

Dozens of senior-level U.S. government officials turned a blind eye to public safety as they pursued an ill-conceived and poorly managed investigation into gun trafficking in Mexico, according to a long-awaited inspector general's report on Operation Fast and Furious.

Portions of the Justice Department IG report, which has not been made public, were obtained exclusively by Fox News Channel.

The report and accompanying accounts cite a failure in leadership and a lack of accountability and oversight up and down the chain of command at the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), the Justice Department itself and other offices. It says many senior executives knew the U.S. was helping traffic guns to Mexico that killed people but did nothing to stop it.

"We found no evidence in Operation Fast and Furious that the ATF or the (U.S. attorney's office) attempted at any point during the investigation to balance the risks to the public safety against the long-term benefits of identifying trafficking networks and participants," the draft report says.

Fast and Furious was the anti-gunrunning sting that helped send some 2,000 assault weapons to Mexico under the guise of stopping illegal trafficking. The operation ended only after the death of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry -- two of the weapons associated with the investigation were found at his murder scene.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; batfe; brianterry; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; ice; jaimezapata; terry; zapata
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1 posted on 09/11/2012 12:51:16 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Jean S

Lets see, it’s Tuesday.....

Fast and Furious docs come out, US embassy in previously friendly Islamic country stormed....

BUH BYE convention “bounce”.


2 posted on 09/11/2012 12:53:24 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Let’s not forget Obama telling Netanyahu to go shove it..yeah let’s see how long that Bogus Convention “bounce” lasts


3 posted on 09/11/2012 12:55:43 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Jean S

Revoke ATF charter! 250 poor innocent Mexicans, 2 US cops dead.

Handiwork of the CHOOM GANG bisexual Muslim...!


4 posted on 09/11/2012 12:58:47 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Sarah Barracuda

I’m not holding my breath waiting for something to happen to obammy and rahm. I’d dare say that 95% of the voting public has never heard of fast and furious, and certainly don’t know that obammy dissed netanyahy............


5 posted on 09/11/2012 1:00:55 PM PDT by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: gaijin
"Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms"

Sounds more like a convenience store than a government agency.

I was not the first to say this, but I do not know to whom I should attribute it.

6 posted on 09/11/2012 1:01:35 PM PDT by tpmintx (Problem: The people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who VOTE for a living.)
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To: Jean S
Much of the blame in the report is directed at three ATF managers: Phoenix Agent in Charge Bill Newell, Supervisor Dave Voth and Case Agent Hope MacAllister.

Okay. Fine, but who signed off, who authorized the operation?

7 posted on 09/11/2012 1:02:05 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Exterminate rats.)
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To: Jean S

The Murrah building contained a day-care center:

Did ATF’s pattern of reckless cowboying kill innocent kids..?

Did US agents CAUSE OkBomb....?


8 posted on 09/11/2012 1:04:28 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Jacquerie; Jean S

Eric Holder will get to "discipline" the scapegoats so says the report, when everyone knows he was in charge.

9 posted on 09/11/2012 1:06:37 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Jacquerie

While the report blames Newell and Voth for poor judgment, attorneys for the two say higher-ups and the ENTIRE ATF chain of command were aware of everything they did.

Kind of answers your question....


10 posted on 09/11/2012 1:08:44 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: tpmintx
I tell my buddies that the recluse across the street is actually ATF watching me.

Cause I LOVE alcohol, tobacco and firearms.

11 posted on 09/11/2012 1:08:44 PM PDT by demsux (Obama: THE job destroyer)
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To: Jean S

When should I tune in and on what network news show will Attorney General Eric Holder’s perp walk/frog march be shown? I’m just giddy with excitement and anticipation for the moment...

Ohh, don’t hold my breath you say...I shouldn’t hold supper just so I don’t miss it on the evening news????

Damn...build me up just to let me down...


12 posted on 09/11/2012 1:09:53 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: MestaMachine; marktwain; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
13 posted on 09/11/2012 1:10:52 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Jean S
This thread has just added to the FreeRepublic "bang list" (firearms interest list) by adding the keyword "banglist".

Any time a firearms-related thread is created on FreeRepublic, please be sure to add the "banglist" keyword to it so that interested FReepers don't miss it. Just a suggestion.

Let Freedom Ring,

Gun Facts v6!

Click the pic to go to the Gun Facts v6 download page!

14 posted on 09/11/2012 1:11:56 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Jean S

DHS’s 1.4 BBBillion new rounds would have supplied US forces in Iraq at the height of the fighting for EIGHTEEN YEARS.

They bought them in a budget crunch, “just CUZ”....?

Pass it around.


15 posted on 09/11/2012 1:12:28 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: neverdem

Ping!


16 posted on 09/11/2012 1:17:52 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Jean S

This is the DOJ internal investigation, isn’t it? I’ll be pretty surprised if the place any blame on high ranking Administration officials.

The Congressional investigation is the one which could nail Holder & Co., but DOJ has stonewalled that effort from the beginning, partially on the premise that this internal investigation takes precedence.

Expect low levels to take the fall in this report. Holder and Obama will be immune.


17 posted on 09/11/2012 1:19:28 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Jean S
Fast and Furious was the anti-gunrunning sting that helped send some 2,000 assault weapons to Mexico under the guise of stopping illegal trafficking.

B. S.

F&F was an operation to pad the statistics for the ATF (DoJ) claim of a "river of iron" flowing to Mexico!!!

18 posted on 09/11/2012 1:19:39 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Jean S; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; ...

It’s a risimg tide that threatens us all. obama is a trapped rat now. A cornered animal who will do as much damage to this country as he can. Scorched earth. Ping.


19 posted on 09/11/2012 1:22:38 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and bo stinks)
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To: Jean S
they're still sticking to their story of F&F being a weapons tracking op. only an idiot would buy that line of BS. If doing hard time for this crime is on the table, it will be interesting to see who in the DOJ takes the fall for Holder and the obozo.
20 posted on 09/11/2012 1:23:51 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: Jacquerie
Okay. Fine, but who signed off, who authorized the operation?

Executive Privilege.

21 posted on 09/11/2012 1:24:27 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: tpmintx; gaijin; Michigan Bowhunter

Michigan Bowhunter said it back in March of ‘09; but I’m sure it can be attributed to a southern comedian the likes of Foxworthy, Envall, or Grizzard prior to that.


22 posted on 09/11/2012 1:24:51 PM PDT by HiJinx (John 10:1)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


23 posted on 09/11/2012 1:27:05 PM PDT by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Roccus; Jean S

Excuse me, that was an “...iron river of guns”, not a “river of iron” that the ATF claimed in March 2009. This was only days before Hillary made her claim.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-03-18-cartelguns_N.htm


24 posted on 09/11/2012 1:30:36 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: HiJinx

Make that Engvall. Durned fingers...


25 posted on 09/11/2012 1:30:53 PM PDT by HiJinx (John 10:1)
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To: tpmintx

“Sounds more like a convenience store than a government agency.”

There used to be a little store outside Sandusky called “Ice Cream And Guns.”

“Sounds more like a convenience store than a government agency.”

I wonder if any of the stuff Fox got was going to be, or already is, redacted from the official report?


26 posted on 09/11/2012 1:35:14 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Roccus; All

IIRC, that ATF news release linked in post#24 was the start of the 90% Myth.


27 posted on 09/11/2012 1:35:38 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Jean S

Maybe one of the scapegoats will rat on the big boys. The Fast and Furious plan DID NOT come from mid level agents.


28 posted on 09/11/2012 1:45:05 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Jean S
The operation ended only after the death of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry -- two of the weapons associated with the investigation were found at his murder scene.

No, more than two were found...

FBI Criminal Informant Complicit in Brian Terry’s Death (PJM Exclusive)

The rip crew was in Peck Canyon that evening with the intention of stealing money and drugs from a specific shipment of which they had prior knowledge.

(snip)

The rip crew knew to be in Peck Canyon that December evening because a CI working for the FBI found out about a smuggling run — from the FBI.

(snip)

The Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) — through its own CIs and communications intercepts — was also aware of the planned assault.

Neither the DEA nor FBI warned Border Patrol about the expected criminal activity.

(snip)

The federal government will still not reveal if one of the two WASR-10 AK-pattern semi-automatic rifles located near the scene — provided to the Sinaloa cartel via Operation Fast and Furious — was the weapon that put a bullet through Brian Terry’s heart. The existence of a third recovered gun, an SKS carbine, has been disputed by the FBI despite the fact it had been talked about openly in the beginning of the investigation among federal agents.

Multiple sources tell PJM that this third weapon “disappeared” because it was the weapon carried by the FBI CI who ran the rip crew. When it was recovered near the scene of the murder and subsequently traced by the ATF, it traced back to the FBI CI via the gun shop in Texas where it was purchased.

Brian Terry’s murder was entirely preventable. The incompetence of the DEA and FBI let his Border Patrol unit walk into an ambush. After the ambush, it appears the FBI tampered with evidence to cover up that one of their informants was involved with the murder of a federal agent.


29 posted on 09/11/2012 1:47:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Jacquerie
EXACTLY!!! Why the need for Executive Privilege?????
30 posted on 09/11/2012 1:51:12 PM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: Jean S
"We found no evidence in Operation Fast and Furious that the ATF or the (U.S. attorney's office) attempted at any point during the investigation to balance the risks to the public safety against the long-term benefits of identifying trafficking networks and participants," the draft report says.

Translation: We're so Anti-Gun, we don't care if our Operations kill Americans.

31 posted on 09/11/2012 1:54:23 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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MY NAME IS WENDY ROSEN

I AM A DEMOCRAT RUNNING FOR CONGRESS!




I voted for Obama
in Maryland!




I voted for Obama
in Florida!



I voted for Obama
in the other 55 states!


32 posted on 09/11/2012 1:59:17 PM PDT by devolve (----- ------- ------------GO_AHEAD---MAKE_MY_SPAGHETTI-------- ----------------------------)
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To: onyx; 100American; UCANSEE2; kevslisababy
This whitewash report is another reason for Romney to nominate a junkyard dog conservative as our next Attorney General. Want to clean house at DOJ? Want to lift wet rocks and see what scurries out? Want to expose and neuter the Marxist radicals who infest our nation’s top law enforcement agency and work against America?

Newt for Attorney General!

33 posted on 09/11/2012 2:00:50 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Exterminate rats.)
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To: Jean S

They were just carrying out Obama’s orders to get gun control enacted “under the radar”.


34 posted on 09/11/2012 2:02:12 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: devolve
WOW, she's really, really devoted to 0bama!

No matter WHAT state she is in....

35 posted on 09/11/2012 2:02:56 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

“Let’s not forget Obama telling Netanyahu to go shove it.”

So now tell me, when are the Jews going to switch to Romney? Like never! Most of them don’t even like Israel. Go figure! Where are the Rabbi’s for Romney?


36 posted on 09/11/2012 2:16:42 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: tpmintx
Sounds more like a convenience store than a government agency.

I was not the first to say this, but I do not know to whom I should attribute it.

Related:
In the movie Deja Vu, Denzel Washington plays an AFT agent investigating the bombing of a ferry in New Orleans. He is interviewing the bad guy, James Caviezel, and identifies himself as being with the ATF. Caviezel says, "A man can always use more alcohol, firearms and tobacco." Denzel replies, "I can think of one more thing." Great lines!

37 posted on 09/11/2012 2:18:21 PM PDT by upchuck (If nobama is reelected and gets to choose more SCOTUS judges, this country is finished.)
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To: EGPWS

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It is very simple to vote in dozens of states

Register to vote by mail

Vote using an absentee ballot

In my state if you register in person - they demand valid ID

If you register and vote by mail

(Motor Votor included)

No ID is involved

Illegal aliens use counsins and uncles names - they also swap their first name and their surnames

Drug dealers get multiple IDs and Driver’s Licenses that way

If caught by LEOs - they relocate and use their next alias

It also is used to get huge multiple Earned Income Credits and huge income tax refunds and Food Stamps and subsidized housing - which they often sublet for cash

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38 posted on 09/11/2012 2:25:27 PM PDT by devolve (----- ------- ------------GO_AHEAD---MAKE_MY_SPAGHETTI-------- ----------------------------)
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To: Jean S
It says many senior executives knew the U.S. was helping traffic guns to Mexico that killed people but did nothing to stop it.

If we had an honest government, public officials would be held accountable in the same way that private citizens would be had they committed the very same acts.

Hearings will be held. Reports will be written. And that will be the end of that.

Whenever the feds want a dirty job done, they call in the ATF.

The ATF is the federal goon squad which is why they have never been held accountable and why they never will.

39 posted on 09/11/2012 2:30:55 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: TigersEye

Lack the evidence-tampering and covering up at Waco?


40 posted on 09/11/2012 2:32:41 PM PDT by CPO retired
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To: devolve
It just defeats the purpose of the system and makes the process worthless.

We need to simplify and go to the "purple finger" method.


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41 posted on 09/11/2012 2:33:25 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: CPO retired

If a 3-0 steel-clad door can “disappear” from evidence, and all record of it, why not an SKS? I think David Copperfield is on retainer at the FBI.


42 posted on 09/11/2012 2:39:41 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

BUH BYE convention “bounce”.

What bounce? It was a contrived bounce!!!!

More smoke and mirrors though!

Fast and Furious was about gun control... Excuse to blame gun owners and shop owners!!!


43 posted on 09/11/2012 2:43:20 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: EGPWS

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Yup!

I told “my plan” to a liberal relative

- Vote fraud - lose one (1) finger for each incident - four states (4) fingers

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Setting up voter fraud:

Lose your life immediately

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Radical liberals/Progressives do not believe in the US Constitution - in the “Rule of Law” - unless they can use it in their favor to gain an illegal and/or unethical agenda or “ends”

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She went nuts and said:

“You cannot do that!”

That told me she and/or her husband had been involved in multiple voting fraud in an election or in multiple elections in at least four (4) states.

More likely at least seven (7) states -

Many vote multiple times in each state

In 2000 - college students openly bragged of voting over 100 times

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The next time Obama puts that “finger” up.....

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44 posted on 09/11/2012 2:50:08 PM PDT by devolve (----- ------- ------------GO_AHEAD---MAKE_MY_SPAGHETTI-------- ----------------------------)
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To: Jean S
Time for

TITLE 18 – CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE

PART I – CRIMES

CHAPTER 96 – RACKETEER INFLUENCED AND CORRUPT ORGANIZATIONS

45 posted on 09/11/2012 2:52:12 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: vette6387

Most Jews are liberal, THAT is the problem, their religion is liberalism. They dont give a rats behind about Israel. In 2008 I asked my liberal cousin “How can you vote for Obama, he doesn’t care about Israel” his response “Israel is not my problem.” Maybe now he thinks differently after visiting Israel but I haven’t discussed it with him, that is the mentality of many Jews, they dont go there so they dont feel like they have a connection with the country. If they actually visited Israel and see what a beautiful country it is maybe their mentality would change. Orthodox Jews vote Republican, the rest of them vote Democrat


46 posted on 09/11/2012 3:01:02 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: basil

Your correct in that it won’t sway Democrats in the least. But I do believe that a number of independents will take notice, and this is exactly what we need.


47 posted on 09/11/2012 3:01:48 PM PDT by MMaschin
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To: Jacquerie; Jean S
Okay. Fine, but who signed off, who authorized the operation?

"You can delegate responsibility; you can not delegate accountability."

You are directly responsible for teaching and training those you manage in the performance of their duties, which makes you directly accountable for their failures. Newell, Voth, and MacAllister could not have run the operations without direct assistance of the management in the DC offices of Justice, the FBI, and ATF. The fault ties directly to Holder.

48 posted on 09/11/2012 3:03:01 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: brityank
“You can delegate responsibility; you can not delegate accountability.”

Hussein/Holder have been doing just that for over two years. If nothing erupts by the time of the election, Romney and Boehner will let it slip down the memory hole.

49 posted on 09/11/2012 3:18:45 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Exterminate rats.)
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To: Jacquerie

Federal agents can’t wipe the a**es without permission. Their warrants are drafted by Asst. US Atty’s. They then have to submit very detailed operational plans which go all the way to DC, so that they can be analyzed and modified, so as to shield the agency as much as possible.

This is why there are so many ‘Task Forces’ with local law enforcement. Federal agents are very restricted in what they can do. Local law enforcement is not.

So to say that this whole thing was the brainchild of some local supervisors and then ran by those same supervisors is absolutely ridiculous.

Hopefully, one(or more) of those about to be thrown under the bus, was smart enough to keep some emails and has already hired a good attorney to go see Issa and Grassley in the near future.


50 posted on 09/11/2012 3:35:16 PM PDT by qaz123
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